defo look at starting a collection of seeds bro,,,,id love to see this stuff done indoor and handled well
god speed
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My girlfriends mom introduced me to a santa marta grower
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this word cripi is very interesting to me
rickytheghost
Member
I think its from florida? They say it in panama too for what it's worth.
its an odd term to us England dwelling people,,,, i used to think it was a term used for the old old old vertion of dog bud,,,its odd to hear that there are 30 types of cripi in panama
rickytheghost
Member
No, its super sticky and compressed and sweat cured, it smells sweet like mex brick weed, it doesnt have any nasty ammonia smell like paraguayan weed i found when i was in argentina. No mold either.
Its mostly black herb, but there are dark brown, green and redish buds in there too, so far i found about 10 seeds.
I think the color is from how they sweat it in the sun wrapped in tarps, during part of their harvesting process.
Thats why initially i said it resembled the cob cured weed kind of by how the color changed from the thread tangwena posted.
Im younger so i never smoked the old school colombian herb from the 60's and 70's you guys rave about, but was it cured like that?
Do you think that could be why the potency was so legendary from all these classic strains?
(I mean besides strains, the equatorial sun and fertile volcanic soil and year round perfect growing season)
A lot of the people who cob cure their weed claim its better, stronger from enzymes, and science stuff that takes place during the cure.
I have never cobbed herb so i can't speak first hand. But the way the herb i got from him looks similar, kind of.
rickytheghost
Member
What are some questions you guys want to know, that i should ask him when i see him again?
I am not a super experienced grower like some of you, i have been a long time smoker, and have grown here and there, on and off.
But i feel too inexeperienced to properly pick, his brain, and he is pretty down to earth so i will try to ask him whatever you guys can think of and let you know how he responds.
I am sure there is a million great things some of you can think to ask him. I don't want to waste the oppurtunity, and he will get a kick out of it i'm sure.
I am not a super experienced grower like some of you, i have been a long time smoker, and have grown here and there, on and off.
But i feel too inexeperienced to properly pick, his brain, and he is pretty down to earth so i will try to ask him whatever you guys can think of and let you know how he responds.
I am sure there is a million great things some of you can think to ask him. I don't want to waste the oppurtunity, and he will get a kick out of it i'm sure.
^^ Well just in general if you can connect to the old elite sativa strains. Corinto, Mangobiche, Punto Rojo. But any of them whether they have a name or they are just a fine high and held by one family or a few.
The lesser known strains would be the best to get. We already have some of the major names in seed for sale at seed banks, such as the Mangobiche, Punto Rojo and Gold.
The lesser known strains would be the best to get. We already have some of the major names in seed for sale at seed banks, such as the Mangobiche, Punto Rojo and Gold.
I read your story translated to English, and although good, it is a typical production of journalism. I would have preferred to read it in Spanish as the translation was not so good and some of the numbers were not so good, as in 10000 pesos equal to $60??? We all know that is not correct. And the corinto is only 1%? And further, a pound of cripi bricked sells for $3000 in Spain? I find that highly unlikely. Still a good story if you read with the bull shit filters on.
I was speaking to her about this thread yesterday... She simply replied that she is "from the city" and that all sales are from the organised gangs it would be extremely dangerous to sell anything there, so nobody does.
Likewise, the countryside is not somewhere you go for fun, it is still very dangerous out there, so not an option, but she is going to try... It is good to know that it still is around
Since no one else has any I'd better ask a few...
How long have people been growing these plants in the area?
Where did the seeds originally come from? Even if it's bullshit/legendary it would be interesting to know what the story is.
How long is the grow season? When do they plant out, when do they harvest? Are they able to do more then one crop per year?
Do they grow sinsemilla? If so how do they select the males for breeding?
How do they cure and ferment the plants? Curious about the process they use.
Do they trade seeds with growers from other areas? Do the local growers swap seeds with each other?
What do they use for fertilizer? What do they do with the farmland when it's not growing ganja?
Do they use it for medicine? Do they cook with it or eat parts of the plant?
Thanks for all the great information. Thank your friend for sharing his knowledge with everyone.
How long have people been growing these plants in the area?
Where did the seeds originally come from? Even if it's bullshit/legendary it would be interesting to know what the story is.
How long is the grow season? When do they plant out, when do they harvest? Are they able to do more then one crop per year?
Do they grow sinsemilla? If so how do they select the males for breeding?
How do they cure and ferment the plants? Curious about the process they use.
Do they trade seeds with growers from other areas? Do the local growers swap seeds with each other?
What do they use for fertilizer? What do they do with the farmland when it's not growing ganja?
Do they use it for medicine? Do they cook with it or eat parts of the plant?
Thanks for all the great information. Thank your friend for sharing his knowledge with everyone.
rickytheghost
Member
I am going to meet up with him sometime this coming week. I will be sure to ask him and post his responses. Thanks.
rickytheghost
Member
I met up with him yesterday and bought another quarter kilo from him, and gave him a weed brownie i made. I asked him your questions thereverand. Here are his answers:
1. At least a 100 years. His family has been growing since the 40's and he personally has been growing since the 80's.
2. The grow season is year round and depending on strain they have 3-4 harvests a year. He gets year round rain and the soil is mountain/volcanic soil.
3. They try to seperate the males out but he grows 5 hectares of cannabis on his farm, so its thousands of plants, so they do the best they can. Some males get through their culling process. They collect and plant any seeds they find in the crops.
4. They dont really dry. It gets cut and bricked and cures in transit, or they cure in the sun by sweating the weed in big black tarps, for a few days then bricked and sold.
5. The seeds are a commodity anong the growers. They jelously guard them and will sell them amongst themselves to a certain extent but they like keeping their personal favorite genetics exclusive to the grower.
He told me he stole four plants from his neighbor's grow who he rented the land to, so he could get the seeds because his buddy wouldn't let him get any .
6. They use chemical and organic fertilizers. He uses a pesticide for ants. He looked at me unbelievingly when i told him i cultivate organic, and so do most people who grow med in California. On his farm they grow regular crops like yucca, and plantains and papayas, etc.
Growing and selling herb is illegal beyond 20 personal consumption plants. He lives so far out in the mountains the soldiers/police hardly come to investigate, but if they do come pull his crops he has normal crops on the rest of the farm, as a plan b.
7. They smoke it and use it to make topical medecines and oils, and poultices etc. They don't really cook with it, i gave him his first weed brownie yesterday. Over the weekend my girfriend's family had an asado (bbq with a ton of meat on the grill) and i brought a tray of brownies to give to her cousins. They had all, never tried them. They were strong, and her cousins didn't heed my warning to wait a hour before eating another one. They all got baked out of their gourds. It was pretty funny.
I am going out to his (the grower's) farm this coming week. I will take pics of his farm/plants and get seeds. He also wants me to show him how to make edibles and oil and other goodies, so i will take pics of that as well and post updates as they take place.
1. At least a 100 years. His family has been growing since the 40's and he personally has been growing since the 80's.
2. The grow season is year round and depending on strain they have 3-4 harvests a year. He gets year round rain and the soil is mountain/volcanic soil.
3. They try to seperate the males out but he grows 5 hectares of cannabis on his farm, so its thousands of plants, so they do the best they can. Some males get through their culling process. They collect and plant any seeds they find in the crops.
4. They dont really dry. It gets cut and bricked and cures in transit, or they cure in the sun by sweating the weed in big black tarps, for a few days then bricked and sold.
5. The seeds are a commodity anong the growers. They jelously guard them and will sell them amongst themselves to a certain extent but they like keeping their personal favorite genetics exclusive to the grower.
He told me he stole four plants from his neighbor's grow who he rented the land to, so he could get the seeds because his buddy wouldn't let him get any .
6. They use chemical and organic fertilizers. He uses a pesticide for ants. He looked at me unbelievingly when i told him i cultivate organic, and so do most people who grow med in California. On his farm they grow regular crops like yucca, and plantains and papayas, etc.
Growing and selling herb is illegal beyond 20 personal consumption plants. He lives so far out in the mountains the soldiers/police hardly come to investigate, but if they do come pull his crops he has normal crops on the rest of the farm, as a plan b.
7. They smoke it and use it to make topical medecines and oils, and poultices etc. They don't really cook with it, i gave him his first weed brownie yesterday. Over the weekend my girfriend's family had an asado (bbq with a ton of meat on the grill) and i brought a tray of brownies to give to her cousins. They had all, never tried them. They were strong, and her cousins didn't heed my warning to wait a hour before eating another one. They all got baked out of their gourds. It was pretty funny.
I am going out to his (the grower's) farm this coming week. I will take pics of his farm/plants and get seeds. He also wants me to show him how to make edibles and oil and other goodies, so i will take pics of that as well and post updates as they take place.
Awsome. .can't wait to see the documentation. ..nice one dude
gorilla ganja
Well-known member
This is a great thread. Thanks for sharing the info you gathered rickytheghost.
Hopefully you can repo some seeds and get them on seed bay or Seed Boutique.
That's again for gathering info from this long time grower and sharing with us.
Peace GG
Hopefully you can repo some seeds and get them on seed bay or Seed Boutique.
That's again for gathering info from this long time grower and sharing with us.
Peace GG
Great thread, what a hook up.
If your grower friends fam has been growing for that long,
You just struck gold!
Funny that they are so tight with the seeds..
Shame as I'm looking for a good original Columbian Gold
To remake the Skunk strain.
If you ever manage to find those seeds, hit me up.
I will buy, swop or whatever you like.
If your grower friends fam has been growing for that long,
You just struck gold!
Funny that they are so tight with the seeds..
Shame as I'm looking for a good original Columbian Gold
To remake the Skunk strain.
If you ever manage to find those seeds, hit me up.
I will buy, swop or whatever you like.
Great answers! Funny to see they're tight with seeds, just like everyone else.
I find the 3 or 4 harvests a year interesting. He's at the equator so it's always 12 hour days. That means it takes 3-4 months for these plants to mature. Same as Indica hybrids. Only I'll bet the native strains get a lot bigger.
Everything grows crazy in the jungle, I'll bet the plants get munched if the insecticides aren't used. If they're continually growing and harvesting they need all the fertilizer they can get, chemical and organic. The ground must get very depleted.
I have friends from central America, even though most of them aren't stoners they love cannabis. Whenever I show them my plants they get very excited, start kissing me on the cheeks and telling me how great they are.
They believe they are powerful medicine, one of my friends collects the fan leaves,. She eats them like salad, tells me they are very healthy. So I figured they'd be used for medicine but doubted they made butter like we do.
At 50 posts you can receive personal messages try to get there...
I find the 3 or 4 harvests a year interesting. He's at the equator so it's always 12 hour days. That means it takes 3-4 months for these plants to mature. Same as Indica hybrids. Only I'll bet the native strains get a lot bigger.
Everything grows crazy in the jungle, I'll bet the plants get munched if the insecticides aren't used. If they're continually growing and harvesting they need all the fertilizer they can get, chemical and organic. The ground must get very depleted.
I have friends from central America, even though most of them aren't stoners they love cannabis. Whenever I show them my plants they get very excited, start kissing me on the cheeks and telling me how great they are.
They believe they are powerful medicine, one of my friends collects the fan leaves,. She eats them like salad, tells me they are very healthy. So I figured they'd be used for medicine but doubted they made butter like we do.
At 50 posts you can receive personal messages try to get there...
I hope you can get him on the side of preservation. Maybe he will talk to other farmers and convince them how important their family strains are to future generations of the world.
It would be incredible if even a handful of these strains made their way into the hands of talented preservationists. Those who can keep the gene pools robust and deliver them to the growers in stable form.
You might have appointed yourself with a sacred duty - no pressure.
It would be incredible if even a handful of these strains made their way into the hands of talented preservationists. Those who can keep the gene pools robust and deliver them to the growers in stable form.
You might have appointed yourself with a sacred duty - no pressure.
frostqueen
Active member
Wow, what a fantastic thread. Very interesting stuff. I hope you can get some seeds from him. Please consider donating to the Cannabis DNA Project, even if it's just a dried leaf that you give them. Tracing the genetic roots of this landrace would be incredibly interesting.
This really amazes me. I can see why with the humidity down there. But how does it not mold?
This really amazes me. I can see why with the humidity down there. But how does it not mold?
How have I been missing this thread?
Haligun, me debiste haber avisado, te querias quedar con todo el hilo tu solo? Hehehe...
Ricky, you are a lucky man to have been invited to a farm in Santa Marta, be polite when you go and are there. I'm assuming you speak good spanish, correcto?
What I don't understand is how is your grower bud getting so many harvests per year if he's growing traditional narrow-leaf?
I grew for almost a decade in the tropical Andes so I understand the photoperiod and weather quite well. I was in Santa Marta with the Kiowas and Arhuacos too...
Grew many bagseeds from Colombian bricks, the most that I was able to get were 2 harvests per year with those seeds. 6 months from seed to harvest on average, some went on for 9 months from seed to harvest.
Modern hybrids yes, 3-4 harvests per year no problem.
Ask him more about the plants grown in his area, who has the longest flowering varieties and the most psychedelic / trippy ones.
I remember bricks from Colombia called Corintiano ( from Corinto) used to get them in Cucuta. It was dried properly and smelled wonderful. It wasn't cripy / cripa though, and it would make you trip balls. Visual depthness was increased etc...amazing herb.
Try to tell your friend about getting to grow stuff like that, dry and cure properly, connoseur type of stuff, he can sell it as well as cripy and even better.
Haligun, me debiste haber avisado, te querias quedar con todo el hilo tu solo? Hehehe...
Ricky, you are a lucky man to have been invited to a farm in Santa Marta, be polite when you go and are there. I'm assuming you speak good spanish, correcto?
What I don't understand is how is your grower bud getting so many harvests per year if he's growing traditional narrow-leaf?
I grew for almost a decade in the tropical Andes so I understand the photoperiod and weather quite well. I was in Santa Marta with the Kiowas and Arhuacos too...
Grew many bagseeds from Colombian bricks, the most that I was able to get were 2 harvests per year with those seeds. 6 months from seed to harvest on average, some went on for 9 months from seed to harvest.
Modern hybrids yes, 3-4 harvests per year no problem.
Ask him more about the plants grown in his area, who has the longest flowering varieties and the most psychedelic / trippy ones.
I remember bricks from Colombia called Corintiano ( from Corinto) used to get them in Cucuta. It was dried properly and smelled wonderful. It wasn't cripy / cripa though, and it would make you trip balls. Visual depthness was increased etc...amazing herb.
Try to tell your friend about getting to grow stuff like that, dry and cure properly, connoseur type of stuff, he can sell it as well as cripy and even better.
