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[Guest]

yea, i knowticed that about everyone seams to be growing in coco.. coco coir?? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coir ) is this what it is? one of my college-friend getting a botany degree (comp sci here) is like demanding i start using coco instead of RW ... i wanted to do a test-crop in coco with canna nutes.. any expiriance with canna in your coco grows?

Yep that's it dude. Everyone's using it for a reason, cos it rocks!
I've been using it for over 3 years now, and they'd have to come up with something pretty damn spectacular to make me switch.
It funny you say Canna coco too, cos that's the only brand I've had much experience with. I've done side-by-sides with rockwool and coco too, and the coco wins, hands down, both in terms of speed-of-growth and final yield. The finished product is idententical, and as an added bonus you're not using something that's bad for the environment. No more rockwool to cart out to the tip, just abit of coco to chuck in your garden. I could go on, the list of benefits is endless! But I'm sure you'll be one happy camper if ya give it a shot.

 

[damakkus]

You Da Man

You Da Man

TIMTIM DAMN YOU R THE MAN.

I would love to visit your grow. It should be in the mags if it isnt already.

I am after what you got and what you have accomplished. Mighty fine work.

For some reason I thought your were, no disrespect but, disabled. LOL

You have got skills. You were the one telling me about the coco right? Forgive me I got a cyst in the brain and I forget shit plus IM STONED. Well what nutes you use? I saw a photo didnt read the thread man. I like the porn you know. Then ask questions and read last. Somethings always wrong with me. But at least I get to smoke dope.

I just picked up some flora nova bloom per lucas' thread. Easy for me you know. Just one item to add and hopefully you think DID I add that shit? LOL

Sucks being me sometimes. But I get to smoke weed. Only think keeping me happy sometimes. Everyday is a new begining. You know.

Hope you dont think Im stupid just stoned. But I would really like to see your work. If I were you man. I would be feelin PROUD cause you da man. I guess your photos excite me the most. How sick is that. Well I must be the sickest cause I LOVE IT and cant wait for more.

TOTAL RESPECT BRO

I have never been jealous until now !!! DAMN GOOD WORK!

 

[Guest]

Hey, thanks bro, although I'm not sure I'm worthy of such praise LOL.
Nah, I'm not disabled dude, far from it, just really like South Park hehe.
Yup, it was me who preached the wonders of coco to ya.
Even though there are specific Coco nutes out there, you don't HAVE to use 'em. Coco is a very versatile medium, and most quality nutes will give ya great results!, be it sythetic or organic,once you get them dialed in.
Just a word of warning though- If you're going to use seperate veg and flower nutes, go easy on the bud boosters during flower, cos coco retains P and K for a period, then releases it, hence no need for seperate veg and flower nutes! It really is the ultimate medium IMO.
I just use Canna's Coco nute (2 part mix, used for entire life-cycle), and during 12/12 first add PK 13/14 for 3-5 weeks at a reduced rate, then AN's Overdrive for the next 2 weeks. And they seem to love it.
Anyway dude, I hope I haven't just confused you more than were already. Good luck!

 

[damakkus]

OH YEAH you just rattled my brain

But it looks like you got the right recipe

Whats PK 13/14

 

[Guest]

Cool, glad I didn't confuse ya too much. heheh
PK 13/14 is a bud booster, made by Canna. IMO one of the best products in it's catagory. If you give it a go, you'll be happy you did. But like I said before, be VERY careful with the bud boosters, if you're gonna use a specific flowering nute on the coco, don't wanna OD you girls on P and K.

 

[damakkus]

You think I would have a problem using 4" rw on top of the 1/4" coco mat using flora nova? Something about the bottle made me buy it. Its pretty.

Good thing I didnt get the big size.

Can you tell me more about the coco retaining the PK

As my plan is to veg with flora series then use the nova bloom for flower

 

[Guest]

That should all work fine dude, just go easy on the bud boosters, like I said.
When I first started using coco, all this stuff about it retaining PK was really confusing, but once you learn abit about it, it's pretty simple.
I just lifted this from Canna's website-

Coco has a great buffer capacity. On the one hand this is an advantage, because it makes growing on CANNA COCO very user-friendly. However, this also makes it difficult to provide the slab, from the beginning, with the right types and amounts of nutrients.

After years of research by way of soil, drain and leaf analyses, CANNA was able to develop a fertiliser, which is specially adapted to the properties of the coco substrate. As CANNA coco contains natural chelates, humic acids and fulvic acids, the plant can optimally absorb all nutrients.

So basically what they're saying is coco absorbs some elements to start with (mainly PK), and once it's absorbed it's "fill" it starts to release 'em.

Anything else ya wanna know, just holla!

 

[Guest]

Just found some more info on Canna's site-

A sensational new organic coconut matter medium available in 50L bags and 1 metre slabs. Our enhanced coconut matter involves the addition of special elements for rapid growth and guarantees that the coconut matter has not been steamed or treated with methyl bromide, therefore retaining the special Trichoderma mould. Trichoderma is a natural plant booster and is scientifically proven to protect the plant against soil diseases. In fact most coconut matter is not suitable for horticultural use at all. It can contain high levels of sea salt and other damaging impurities. CANNA COCO on the other hand is certified for horticultural use according to strict RHP standards. Demand the RHP standard, it guarantees that it meets the highest chemical and physical demands and is free from weeds and pathogenic organisms. Growing in the new enhanced CANNA COCO will give you 6-10% higher yields over other coconut mediums and will also reduce your fertiliser use. Quicker and explosive rooting also assures the growth period can be considerably shortened.

Coconut matter has its own cation-exchange complex which needs to be catered for if you want to extract the maximum benefits from it. Therefore it is essential that you use a special coco specific nutrient. CANNA COCO nutrients are specially formulated to ensure that you obtain the greatest yields possible when growing in cocoponics. They are a professional, crop specific plant food rich in premium elements and earth acids that guarantee you superior flower size every time with an enhanced sweetness and flavour. Unlike some inferior brands, CANNA Coco nutrients are so advanced that they are used all the way through the growing and flowering cycles. No need for the hassle of separate growth and bloom formulas.

 

[damakkus]

Right on thanks for the info. I plan to stay away from any boosters with my first go at the straw deez. I want to make sure its what I want to grow.
I dont like plants with leafs all on it.

You have a photo that made my heart stop

I wanna grow buds that look like that. Gotta be one of my favorites.

Can you tell me if straw d grows similar to that beauty. If not what does? Thats number BEAUTYin my book. I wanna grow that!!!!

 

[damakkus]

hey timtim the one they sold me was cocotek by gh does that still apply.

I went to gh's site and it does say or I just dont know where to find it. Do you know?

And thank you for helping me with this. As this round I want something to show off to everyone. So far, I dont have anything to be proud of. But I am working on it.

I need to purchase a new cam as well. Sucks after christmas for me until I can pay some bills.. hehe.

 

[Guest]

Hey dude, no worries, glad to help.
I think you're gonna be lookin' for a while if ya wanna grow that plant though bro. That's my Heavy Duty Fruity, and that pheno is rare as hen's teeth. She is my most coveted clone.
The Strawberry Deez has a little more leaf on it, still not much though, and the buds aren't anywhere near as dense as my HDF. Don't sweat it though, I think you'll be more than happy with the Strawberry Deez, I know I was, I'll just go find a pic for ya.

Can't really say what grows like my HDF, but IMO prolly stick to predominatly indica genetics, they should give ya the structure your looking for.

 

[damakkus]

You know what I am talking about though right. Thats the kinda dame I have been wanting to grow.

How does she smoke?

 

[Guest]

Yeah I know what you mean dude, just don't expect to find something that special straight away, I'd already gone through 100s, maybe even 1000s of beans of all different varieties before I found her. And now I've got her, I'm never letting her go!!

She's an absolute dream to toke on too bro, here's the description of her from my bud porn thread-

Now for my fave, in just about every aspect, Reeferman's Heavy Duty Fruity, this girl looks soooo pretty, and tastes sooo damn good too! The best I can decribe her taste and smell is dead skunk covered in over-ripe cherries and hash. YUMMMMYYYY!!!!
I gotta say though this was a freak, nothing else even came close to this girl so I'd say she has some recessive traits. Infact I'll go so far as to say it would have been a waste of time if not for this girl. All the other's were really bland tasting, and smelling. And talk about variation, the quickest plant was done after 6 weeks, the longest, 16!!!!! So I think Reef did the smart thing by pulling the line. This girl takes 11-12 weeks, and is well worth the wait!

 

[damakkus]

I am foaming at the mouth.

So you have experience bro. Me, I am still a baby total newb that has gone at it a few time failing with a little success to keep me going. But I am obsessed. I just love growing. Now everyday is a new begining bro. Another chance to get it right.

I told my family I wanted to make HT centerfold. I dont know. Just something I would be proud of. I hope my dream comes true.

 

[Guest]

damn timtim... nice read you just gave me...

i was looking at canna at my buddies house, he uses the coco, cannazyme, phizotonic and the pk 13/14 for his canna grows..
i like the simplicity...plus its canna=cannabis...
i was reading about coco.. its the shell of a coconut.. and the fibers are like straw there 'hollow' and will absorb the nutes (p and k ) and let it out like peralite does with h2O... sounds good...
and this is all you use coco and your special blend??

 

[somoz]

when you find the right bird its tough lettin her go........but its even harder finding her! way to dig deep bro........nice find

moz

 

[Guest]

Hey Damakkus, keep on keepin' on dude. We were all newbies at some stage. Trial & error, and contantly learning are the only ways to improve. So it seem like you're on the right track! And aim high bro. I hope I do see one f your pics in a HT.

Hey ZEROKOOL,
Thanks mate. Yep, that's all I use. Canna coco for the medium, and Canna's coco nutes, Rhizotonic, Cannazym, Pk 13/14 and AN's Overdrive. Ya can't beat simplicity IMO.

Haya Somoz,
Good to have you stop by bro. And thanks. Yeah the special ones are always tough to find, but when I do find 'em, I make sure they stick around! And anyway that haf the fun, wondering what to expect.

 

[Guest]

timtim,

Love your threads and pics.

If I was wanting to use Coco as a replacement for peat based medium for use in pots with organic feed, would I still need to cut with perlite to improve drainage?

 

[Guest]

Hey HashAssasin,
Thanks mate. I used to mix my coco with perlite too, until I got sick of doing it, then tried it in straight coco, and it works just as well. Holds alittle more water, which I pesonally like. And yields are pretty much identical. So no I wouldn't mix in any perlite, pesonally.

 

[Guest]

timtim it has been over a year now since you have started this great thread. Have there been any major or minor changes to the way you run your setup?

I think ya missed my question earlier