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My First Grow: White Widow x Afghani Kush x Black Domina 400W DWC
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Day 21
Day 21
It's been 3 weeks of veg since I got the clone, planning to throw her into flower either Monday or Wednesday. We'll see how she looks on Monday and I'll make that decision.
Noticing these rusty spots on the new growth. In person you can almost see other spots where these might be forming, looks a little shiny in spots. Any idea what could be causing these or how I can fix it? I had rust spot problems before but they were mostly on leaf edges and adding CalMag and upping nutes solved it. These seem to be spots in the middle of the leaf.
She's a foot tall now, can see a few preflowers, first ones formed after I FIMd
Day 21
It's been 3 weeks of veg since I got the clone, planning to throw her into flower either Monday or Wednesday. We'll see how she looks on Monday and I'll make that decision.
Noticing these rusty spots on the new growth. In person you can almost see other spots where these might be forming, looks a little shiny in spots. Any idea what could be causing these or how I can fix it? I had rust spot problems before but they were mostly on leaf edges and adding CalMag and upping nutes solved it. These seem to be spots in the middle of the leaf.
She's a foot tall now, can see a few preflowers, first ones formed after I FIMd
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So that leaf spotting problem is getting worse. Seems to have started at the res change. Looks like a calcium deficiency, but I'm already using CalMag+ at 1tsp/gal.
Now, some research has led me to believe I may be too high in either P, K, or Mg as both the FloraMicro and CalMg+ has both Ca and Mg in it, so I shouldn't really be feeding too low in Ca, so something has to be locking it out.
I've talked to a few people, both on line and in person, and there are a few who blame both this issue and the one I had earlier on the lucas formula. Saying I need to use a real grow nute in veg, so I'm thinking of swinging by the hydro store either tonight or tomorrow and trying out a new line of nutes. Probably either Dutchmaster Gold, AN Sensi, or DynaGro nutes.
Another thought I had was to maybe change the res out again and just run Lucas formula with no CalMag at the same EC. My first problem was also fixed by upping the feeding on Lucas so maybe the CalMag isn't necessary.
Please, any thoughts on the problem I'm seeing in these leaves are much apprecieated. It looks like 5-8 leaves are affected, and they are all relatively new growth. None of the old growth is affected.
1st picture is yesterday, the rest are today. Again it seemed to happen when I changed reservoirs, but the previous res should have been on basically the same ratio and level for the previous 12 days. PH is 5.8, EC is 1.25, Room temp is 77, res is 65, both colder at night (I might let it get too cold..)
Now, some research has led me to believe I may be too high in either P, K, or Mg as both the FloraMicro and CalMg+ has both Ca and Mg in it, so I shouldn't really be feeding too low in Ca, so something has to be locking it out.
I've talked to a few people, both on line and in person, and there are a few who blame both this issue and the one I had earlier on the lucas formula. Saying I need to use a real grow nute in veg, so I'm thinking of swinging by the hydro store either tonight or tomorrow and trying out a new line of nutes. Probably either Dutchmaster Gold, AN Sensi, or DynaGro nutes.
Another thought I had was to maybe change the res out again and just run Lucas formula with no CalMag at the same EC. My first problem was also fixed by upping the feeding on Lucas so maybe the CalMag isn't necessary.
Please, any thoughts on the problem I'm seeing in these leaves are much apprecieated. It looks like 5-8 leaves are affected, and they are all relatively new growth. None of the old growth is affected.
1st picture is yesterday, the rest are today. Again it seemed to happen when I changed reservoirs, but the previous res should have been on basically the same ratio and level for the previous 12 days. PH is 5.8, EC is 1.25, Room temp is 77, res is 65, both colder at night (I might let it get too cold..)
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Day 28
Day 28
So I didn't change the nutes at all. The leaf problem got a bit worse initially then stopped, I think the damage about was due to the PH being above 5.8 for the 4 days I was gone and Calcium is locked out at that range. The damaged areas were the newest growth at that point in time, and the damage hasn't got worse since then or spread at all. You can see the damage in the last picture.
Did a res change on Monday, cut back on the CalMag by half and bumped up the Lucas formula just a bit. Worked out to be:
5ml CalMag+
17.5ml GH FloraMicro
35ml GH FloraBloom
2.75 Gal RO Water
EC of around 1.3/PH 5.5
Have also started the Liquid Light + Saturator foliar feeding, today was it's second application. Monday was half strength, today's was full.
I bumped the water level up a little bit because the roots seemed to be cording. Also, the roots out of the water seem a little brown and might be kind of slimy, the roots in the water are super white. Going to pick up some Zone at the hydro store to treat them with.
Will be flipping her to flower early next week.
Day 28
So I didn't change the nutes at all. The leaf problem got a bit worse initially then stopped, I think the damage about was due to the PH being above 5.8 for the 4 days I was gone and Calcium is locked out at that range. The damaged areas were the newest growth at that point in time, and the damage hasn't got worse since then or spread at all. You can see the damage in the last picture.
Did a res change on Monday, cut back on the CalMag by half and bumped up the Lucas formula just a bit. Worked out to be:
5ml CalMag+
17.5ml GH FloraMicro
35ml GH FloraBloom
2.75 Gal RO Water
EC of around 1.3/PH 5.5
Have also started the Liquid Light + Saturator foliar feeding, today was it's second application. Monday was half strength, today's was full.
I bumped the water level up a little bit because the roots seemed to be cording. Also, the roots out of the water seem a little brown and might be kind of slimy, the roots in the water are super white. Going to pick up some Zone at the hydro store to treat them with.
Will be flipping her to flower early next week.
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Day 6 of 12/12
Day 6 of 12/12
Day 6 of 12/12
Lights are on 12pm to 12am.
EC 1.5 of Lucas Formula(2:1 Bloom to Micro) with 100PPM of CalMag+ and RO water
Feeding with full strength LL/Saturator every 3 days. Spray at 4pm until all leaves drip a bit, 2 days of no foliar feeding and repeat.
EC is up around 1.5 or so on initial res change. right now it's at .95 so I'll probably up it a little bit on Monday when I change the res. PH is still being very manageable. When I mix the nutes out it is set to 5.5, and rises to 6.3 a week later when I change the res out. No PH up/down has been needed for weeks.
Have a new setup ready to roll, 4x4 tent with 4 milky way clones, a headband clone, and a jack the ripper clone the dispensary raped(it was in a 1" rockwool cube in a 4" rockwool cube, he ripped it out of the 4" rockwool cube so there was just the 1" cube left with a few roots so it would be "legal"), will probably try to clone that if it recovers rather than grow it out.
Part of setting up the new setup I had her running on a weaker pump for a few days. I got a new pump for the new setup and have her running at the same setup I used to now though. The roots exposed to the air (between net pot and water level) got a lot browner. My boy gave my some DM zone so hopefully I can cut that problem off. I think my water levels are too cold to really have an issue though...
Also got some hygrozyme that will be run with the res change on Monday. Will probably up EC to 1.7 as well.
Day 6 of 12/12
Day 6 of 12/12
Lights are on 12pm to 12am.
EC 1.5 of Lucas Formula(2:1 Bloom to Micro) with 100PPM of CalMag+ and RO water
Feeding with full strength LL/Saturator every 3 days. Spray at 4pm until all leaves drip a bit, 2 days of no foliar feeding and repeat.
EC is up around 1.5 or so on initial res change. right now it's at .95 so I'll probably up it a little bit on Monday when I change the res. PH is still being very manageable. When I mix the nutes out it is set to 5.5, and rises to 6.3 a week later when I change the res out. No PH up/down has been needed for weeks.
Have a new setup ready to roll, 4x4 tent with 4 milky way clones, a headband clone, and a jack the ripper clone the dispensary raped(it was in a 1" rockwool cube in a 4" rockwool cube, he ripped it out of the 4" rockwool cube so there was just the 1" cube left with a few roots so it would be "legal"), will probably try to clone that if it recovers rather than grow it out.
Part of setting up the new setup I had her running on a weaker pump for a few days. I got a new pump for the new setup and have her running at the same setup I used to now though. The roots exposed to the air (between net pot and water level) got a lot browner. My boy gave my some DM zone so hopefully I can cut that problem off. I think my water levels are too cold to really have an issue though...
Also got some hygrozyme that will be run with the res change on Monday. Will probably up EC to 1.7 as well.
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Day 11 of 12/12
Day 11 of 12/12
Looking pretty good, going away until Monday for the holidays, my only real concern is she might grow tall enough to hit the glass shield on the hood while I'm gone. Hope not.
When I get back I will switch her over to the HPS, she's still under the 400W MH for now.
The tops are about 26-27" from the top of the hydroton, about 5" below the hood. EC was set to 2.0 at last res change, res has been changed weekly, bumping up the concentration of the lucas formula each time, not using CalMag+ anymore, with 5ml of zone per bucket. LL/Saturator being applied at full strength bottle directions every 3 days.
Day 11 of 12/12
Looking pretty good, going away until Monday for the holidays, my only real concern is she might grow tall enough to hit the glass shield on the hood while I'm gone. Hope not.
When I get back I will switch her over to the HPS, she's still under the 400W MH for now.
The tops are about 26-27" from the top of the hydroton, about 5" below the hood. EC was set to 2.0 at last res change, res has been changed weekly, bumping up the concentration of the lucas formula each time, not using CalMag+ anymore, with 5ml of zone per bucket. LL/Saturator being applied at full strength bottle directions every 3 days.
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Day 22 of 12/12
Day 22 of 12/12
Still going strong.
EC has been bumped up to ~2.15 of Lucas w/ 5ml of DM Zone.
Switched to a HPS on Day 15 of 12/12. Had to raise the lights slightly shortly after, only about 6" up. The tallest cola is at 34" right now.
The top leaves are starting to get crystally, can't see it in the pictures though. She's not very smelly, got a kinda peppery, slightly skunky smell to her.
Anyone have any clue what I'm looking at for flowering times? 8 weeks? 10?
Day 22 of 12/12
Still going strong.
EC has been bumped up to ~2.15 of Lucas w/ 5ml of DM Zone.
Switched to a HPS on Day 15 of 12/12. Had to raise the lights slightly shortly after, only about 6" up. The tallest cola is at 34" right now.
The top leaves are starting to get crystally, can't see it in the pictures though. She's not very smelly, got a kinda peppery, slightly skunky smell to her.
Anyone have any clue what I'm looking at for flowering times? 8 weeks? 10?
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Day 42 of 12/12
Day 42 of 12/12
Things still going good. Been backing off the nutes the last 2 weeks but still getting a bit of nute burn. PPM is at 400 now, next week I think I might drop to straight H2O no nutes. Did quite a bit of pruning this weekend, trying to let the buds get as much light as possible in the last few weeks.
II had my ballast die on me last weekend. I was without a 400W ballast for about 6 hours before I managed to borrow one. During this time I put her in my other tent, under a 600W HPS. Unfortunately, I mismeasured, and just the very tip of the main cola ended up touching the glass on the hood for about 5 minutes before I managed to raise it. This burnt the tip pretty good as well as a few sugar leaves near the top of the cola.
Any guesses on what my yield might end up being? Planning on giving her another 2-3 weeks. She ended up just a hair shy of 3' tall from the hydroton .
Day 42 of 12/12
Things still going good. Been backing off the nutes the last 2 weeks but still getting a bit of nute burn. PPM is at 400 now, next week I think I might drop to straight H2O no nutes. Did quite a bit of pruning this weekend, trying to let the buds get as much light as possible in the last few weeks.
II had my ballast die on me last weekend. I was without a 400W ballast for about 6 hours before I managed to borrow one. During this time I put her in my other tent, under a 600W HPS. Unfortunately, I mismeasured, and just the very tip of the main cola ended up touching the glass on the hood for about 5 minutes before I managed to raise it. This burnt the tip pretty good as well as a few sugar leaves near the top of the cola.
Any guesses on what my yield might end up being? Planning on giving her another 2-3 weeks. She ended up just a hair shy of 3' tall from the hydroton .
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Greenwonder
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Hi there
Hi there
Im thinking about starting a grow maybe...
I'm just wondering how much you get from each plant as an experienced grower?
I haven't started. But made lots of research
Hi there
Im thinking about starting a grow maybe...
I'm just wondering how much you get from each plant as an experienced grower?
I haven't started. But made lots of research
