My Dog ate my stash! *Please read if you make butter and have a dog*

[EliTheBarrowBoy]

Troll?

I would love to see your reasoning. I'm here in attempt to prevent disinformation. I'd like to see you ask a vet if they've ever simply repeated something without verifying it.

Pet peeve. Sue me.

 

[Cookie monster]

Troll?
I'm here in attempt to prevent disinformation.

I'm sure your vet has given you the green light to give your "dog" chocolate covered raisins.

Hang on...whats that?.....the ghost of Jim Henson is calling all the muppets back to work, .....you should probably go, you don't want to be late for work now do you?


In order to prevent the spread of disinformation, believe it or not you actually need to have a clue what you are talking about.

 

[JJScorpio]

There shouldn't be enough THC in one male plant to do much of anything..... If there was you might have better kept it for breeding, lol....

 

[EliTheBarrowBoy]

I already explained that I understood what was going on.

I don't understand why it is you don't think I have a clue, but it is my contention that it is you who is clueless.

I posted a long post with links and info with pretty diagrams and lots of dialouge but when I hit send it only sent a fifth of what I had written.

My guess is it's something about fifty posts so we'll see if I can last that long... being a troll and all...

 

[JJScorpio]

Not good advice at all. There are many documented cases of small amounts of bakers chocolate shutting down a dogs kidneys and killing it..... Although it usually takes a good amount, in some dogs just a few tbs can be fatal....

Dogs have an enzyme that is produced when they are puppies that disarms the evil that chocolate produces in the liver.

As they grow older, if there is no need for it, they stop producing this enzyme.

It's a good rule of thumb to not feed your dog chocolate, yet it isn't toxic if they were ingesting small amounts as a puppy.

I have had a 16 year old dog too blind to see but tail wagging till the day she died that ate raisins, chocolate, grapes, onions, etc.

I'm sure there are many that would claim she could have made it to 29 if I didn't try to kill her with some of her favorite treats.

What I'm getting at is simple. Vets lie to avoid having to explain things to sheeple.

 

[EliTheBarrowBoy]

The only advice I see in that quote is where I point out a good rule of thumb.

Thanks for showing up though. Am I going to be able to post an entire post when I hit fifty?

 

[EliTheBarrowBoy]

Oh well.

Theobromine synthase

Do your own research.

I really like this part here:

We are tokers and growers not vets or animal pharmacologists, we have no business giving our pets anything that MAY harm them.

End of story....

Assumption is blah blah blah.

The real kicker is that this thread was started about butter.

 

[Babbabud]

Ill give ya two days and it has to be proof of toxicity not just that the dog ate a large amount of green matter, after all this thread was started about butter. Im talking about organic thc toxicity ... not synthetic.

 

[Weezard]

2 pennies

2 pennies

Not good advice at all. There are many documented cases of small amounts of bakers chocolate shutting down a dogs kidneys and killing it..... Although it usually takes a good amount, in some dogs just a few tbs can be fatal....

Listen to da man, he speaks the truth

I think it's the Theobromine that messes with their heart rate/BP, and the BP blows out the kidney.
But, don't quote me. I'm not a vet, or a chemist.
At the very least it is a laxative and will dehydrate the animal.
Do not give chocolate to dogs of any age.

There's plenty of other crap you can make them sick with. ;-}

Aloha,
Weezard

 

[mage]

hey guys!

Awesome news he's ok!!!

He's back to his usual self today and i'd even dare to say a little more energetic than usual lol

My wife gave me a grilling over the incident so ill make sure it doesnt happen again lol

One things for sure imo whethor its safe or not for dogs they sure as hell dont like it ... but it is fantastic that in most cases they seem to get through it and sober up

 

[ThePizzaMan]

Good News!!!!!!!!

And I am positive that an important lesson was learned here.

I know when my cat got sick, I vowed to NEVER let it happen again.

 

[EliTheBarrowBoy]

It appears that theobromine metabolism has only been moderately studied in the scientific community; most research has revolved around human metabolism. Arnaud and Welsch (two research chemists at Nestlé in Switzerland) used 14C-labeled theobromine to determine the metabolic breakdown of the alkaloid in rats (J. Agric. Food Chem., 1979, 27, 524-527). They determined that theobromine and methyl uracil were the major radioactive components in the urine (accounting for 85% of total radioactivity). Other side products included 7-methylxanthine, 7-methyluric acid, 3-methyluric acid and several others. Interestingly, they noted large similarities in the chemical composition of urine samples in both humans and rats that had been given theobromine. However, there were quantitative differences between the two species. Along with their paper, they actually printed pictures of 2D-TLC plates of urine samples of humans and rats.



By comparison, it appears that the canid (or canine) biochemistry for metabolizing theobromine is strangely unique relative to humans (and rats for that matter). The consensus opinion appears to be that dogs are unable to metabolize and then excrete theobromine efficiently. Upon ingestion of a theobromine-containing substance, dogs have been reported to excrete “small quantities of an unidentified but apparently unique metabolite” (Drug Metab. Disposition 1984, 12, 154-160). It also appears that the toxicity associated with the inability to metabolize theobromine causes an increased concentration of intercellular free calcium, which is consistent with significant CNS stimulation and tachycardia (J. Agric. Food Chem., 2005, 53, 4069-4075). Physiologically, theobromine ingestion in dogs is linked to epileptic seizures, heart attacks and death.

Bottom line: stick to the peanut butter. It’s much safer.

http://therealmoforganicsynthesis.blogspot.com/2008/11/death-by-chocolate.html

Why don't you read what I type, decide you're going to find out for yourself, and then do so before you just rate my posts as unhelpful.

I know what I'm talking about. If it's not helpful that is obviously your problem.

Remember what I posted earlier about puppies vs. dogs in terms of enzymatic production?

Am I still a troll just because I'm new?

I can find the door I walked through.

I'm not here to be unhelpful.

 

[alpo]

once my dog jumped on my dresser and ripped through a zip locked bag and ate my weed brownie

 

[cannadelic]

once my dog jumped on my dresser and ripped through a zip locked bag and ate my weed brownie

weed & chocolate neither any good for your dog, with a handle like that it was only a matter of time before you chimed in btw.

 

[Cookie monster]

Ill give ya two days and it has to be proof of toxicity not just that the dog ate a large amount of green matter, after all this thread was started about butter. Im talking about organic thc toxicity ... not synthetic.

It's a deal organic only no synthetic......the doggies will be happy to receive your donation or maybe mine

 

[Cookie monster]

Ill give ya two days and it has to be proof of toxicity not just that the dog ate a large amount of green matter, after all this thread was started about butter. Im talking about organic thc toxicity ... not synthetic.

I'll be dammed if I could find 1 article that proved it 100%.....so 50 euro's was donated today..
I still think it's possible tho.

 

[SuperHemp]

My dog loves to eat leaf.. not too fond of buds though. The only kind of greens he likes is cannabis and strawberry leaves.. won't eat strawberries either, only the leaves.

 

[Sour Joe]

I just find it hilarious when my mutt trys to be grown and eat some bud only to walk around really high for a couple hours. They are always fine as long as they dont eat to much, like pounds of the goods. They be coming down and wont eat dog food but will eat everything else like they know exactly what munchies are. I love dogs and weed very much so i been through this situation a couple times. I had one dog that used to find it no matter where you put it pothead dog cost me atleast a couple 1000

 

[Sour Joe]

If he liked it you got your self a stoner and gonna have to watch him