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MSNBC says Obama to legalize

igrowone

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Obama is trailing in Colorado, one of the most important states of the election, and in that state the democratic party is BACKING legalization...partially as a litmus test for the president...if the state dem's get MORE support by backing legalization, and Barack is still trailing in October, he will definitely back it...because like all other politicians, it doesn't matter to them if they do good or bad policy, as long as they get elected again...they don't really give a crap about our pot unless we can give them more time in office...

those are the balls we need in the vise, that is beautiful
there doesn't seem to be as much of the fear and doubt propaganda that the DOJ/DEA spread during the prop 19 disaster
and the last poll i saw for the Colorado was crazy positive for passage
fun to watch if nothing else
 
Legalization? And put all those great, "god like" DEA agents out of a job? All media Tells Lies to your vision(Television). MSNBC, FOX, NPR, etc, are all controlled and report what they are told to report, say what they are told to say. Real information can only be learned if one actually goes out to research it.
Legalization is possible but I think the private prison industry will lobby against it to make sure that never comes to reality.
I guess it will come down to what is more profitable for the government. making it legal or keeping it illegal. We all know its all about the money, not about helping people. or doing whats right.
 
FreedomFightr...in the 60+ years I've been around, it is INCREASINGLY "all about the money" and, accordingly, hand in hand with that philosophy, the abhorrent "the end justifies the means". A sad and worrisome state of human evolution.
 

vapedg13

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this is the real story about the so called legalization by the feds

Isn't it odd that the Republicans will go after Obama on every political issue except one, his early, heavy use of marijuana as a teen as part of the "total absorption" of the "Choom Gang" growing up in Hawaii?


There wasn't even a ripple on the Republican side after the leaked story of Obama's marijuana use as a teenager and college student. So why aren't Republicans beating Obama over the head with this club? Isn't it odd that Republicans are not using this issue to their advantage?



Romney would love to transfer medical marijuana into the hands of a for-profit corporation

Very odd, indeed, that neither candidate will give the medical marijuana question any oxygen, stalling and dodging until after the election, when GW Pharma goes big with TV ads touting Sativex as the new breakout miracle medicine that will in time be expanded to treat many other medical conditions across the board, generating billions of dollars in future profits in a monopoly scheme. Sativex is already legal in Spain, Germany, Denmark, New Zealand, the UK, and Canada.

The fix is in, or should I say the double cross. No matter who wins the 2012 presidential election, Obama or Romney, the DEA and IRS already have operational plans in place to launch a country-wide strike operation to shut down all 17 legal medical marijuana states and DC in a surge coup d'état in support of Sativex's dominance of the marketplace.










GW Pharmaceuticals

The green shoots of the state-run medical marijuana programs are slowly gaining traction, but are in a state of confusion due to the ad hoc nature of popular support. This is good for the Feds future plans because they can come in and claim to straighten the whole mess out by bringing order and one FDA nationwide standard regulating this new "cannabinoid era ."


So here's how it will go down: the next president addresses the nation about the 75 year old marijuana problem by saying, "OK, we will give you medical marijuana, but in the form of "medicalized cannabinoids" which be regulated and treated like any other medicine."


In early 2013 the DEA will shut down every state-run medical marijuana program nationwide. This will eliminate all competition from traditional marijuana treatment centers while simultaneously introducing the US population to a breakthrough medical paradigm shift which embraces pharmaceutically produced "medicalized cannabinoids" as a new treatment option for the prevention of and cure for a wide range of illnesses.


First will be multiple sclerosis, quickly followed by pain control, and even diabetes, weight loss and psychiatric meds are in the pipeline. Ever a prototype Sativex inhaler is in the works! The only thing missing is the pipe and Bic lighter.









The upcoming marijuana inhaler!

Once a drug is approved for safety and use for one medical condition, it can be prescribed "off label" by a doctor to treat any other medical condition.


The rationale will now be that a good medicalized safe alternative version exists to marijuana (as in: it doesn't get you high). And a stronger reason not to tolerate traditional smoked marijuana as medical treatment will be created to aggressively hit this growing industry hard and driving it back underground, making every state governor wet their pants and stand down. But the true hidden agenda is that...


Two identical products that do the same thing -- one that comes from a laboratory for $1,500 per month and one that comes from your garden that you can practically grow for free - -cannot exist side by side.


GW Pharma is looking for a huge return on their investment. However, if they have to compete with individuals who can grow the same medicinal plant in their backyard and who don't have to go through the FDA drug approval process, this unfair competition will hurt future profits and scare away investors. Their Sativex business model is built on GW Pharma having a monopoly on medical marijuana in the US.


The DEA will use the introduction of this new drug as a last ditch effort to save its failed 75-year war on cannabis and to protect their jobs and it's $27 billion Drug War budget from being cut.


It's now or never for the DEA: they must go for broke due to the drive to legalize marijuana in Colorado this November which is polling at 60 percent approval rating. Any further delay on their part only allows the movement to grow stronger until it can't be stopped. That is the tipping point we have now reached and the DEA's back is against the wall. They need to maintain the image of the marijuana boogie man to have a mission statement.










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DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart recently refused, in testimony before Congress, to admit marijuana is any different from heroin, meth or cocaine


If they don't stop legalization now, the DEA will lose half of its reason for being; if marijuana is legal, the agency potentially stands to lose half of its future funding. The 75 year war on marijuana is a failure, billions of dollars have been wasted, countless lives and families have been ruined. This is the worst kept secret in law enforcement.


Under this new plan, the wonderful healing therapeutic euphoric effects of smoked, vaporized or consumed cannabis will still get you arrested, producing overtime for police and profits for the largest industry prison in the world, and now big pharma is going be the new player at the table eager to cash in on the immorality of marijuana prohibition.


Sativex, the 100 percent marijuana, excuse me, the 100 percent marijuana-based cannabinoid mouth spray, will be introduced and marketed to physicians and pharmacies across the US right after the 2012 Presidential election. The new rebranding campaign's aim will be to downplay the link between medical marijuana and this new medical breakthrough field of "medicalized cannabinoids" which will be given FDA approval. To add to this mendacity, Sativex, even though it is a 100 percent extract of marijuana, will be granted Schedule II or III controlled drug status.










Hail Mary Jane



The pressure has already started; why do you think that credit cards are no longer being accepted in marijuana dispensaries??

A very neat marketing ploy will be launched to separate "medicinal cannabinoids" from the evils of smokable marijuana. Their marketing strategy will be falsely based on that of opioids, as in people shouldn't smoke raw opium as a pain medicine due to its addiction potential. However, opioid-based medicines derived from the poppy plant have important analgesic properties when refined and used under strict physician care.


From the get-go, this assumption is wrong. These two drugs are not the same but are treated as if they were, as in Drug Enforcement Administration Director Michele Leonhart's recent testimony. During an oversight hearing before Congress, Leonhart flat-out refused to admit that marijuana is any different from heroin, meth, or cocaine, Look, all illegal drugs are harmful, ok?
marijuana = heroin = meth = cocaine; they are all the same.


The compartmentalization of this woman's mind is tighter than a duck's rear end.


The DEA and FDA will try to separate and rationalize Sativex vs. marijuana by claiming one is a safe medicine and the other is a dangerous drug of abuse which is bad for your health. If you use Sativex you are a patient, if you smoke marijuana you are an addict in need of jail time.
Using this "medical breakthrough" as a cover story, the DEA and IRS, using threats and raiding marijuana clinics, will take down this fledging industry. The pressure has already started; why do you think that credit cards are no longer being accepted in marijuana clinics?


The California raids was just the practice drill for what is about to come. The California clinic raids and shutdowns were just an experiment to gauge how much political pushback there would be from the cannabis culture.


The DEA will, with future presidential support, will double down and launch a simultaneous all-state shutdown of every medical marijuana clinic, using the military tactics model not just in California, but country-wide. Imagine that: SWAT teams arresting medical providers and sick people in wheelchairs whose only crime is smoking a tree.


Cities and states will fold one by one as the federal law on marijuana is enforced by a DEA crusade that will run wild with unchecked power against the will of the majority of Americans who want marijuana legalized.


To help get physicians on board, the FDA, which is the sole body regulating a physician's ability to write prescriptions for controlled substances, could pull the license of any physicians who write prescriptions for marijuana; they would be forced to write for Sativex as a substitute in addition to the generous free samples that will be given to physicians to hand out.


The goals of this plan will be to marginalize medical marijuana, to co-op the entire medical marijuana industry and transfer it and all profits to big pharma. It will be a one-punch; stock in GW pharma will go north on Wall Street as swat teams arrest the ill and close up clinics, driving marijuana back underground, which is the goal of the DEA.


The cannabis culture has done such a good job over the years of proving that marijuana is an effective medicine that Big Pharma will use this factual information to their advantage -- as in, "now get all the benefits of pure, tested, standardized dosing, non smokable medicine with no chance of marijuana addiction."


The cornerstone rationale to legalize marijuana is that it is a 100 percent safe, highly effective medicine for a wide variety of illnesses. The DEA will use this point to their advantage by agreeing with it and using it as their rationale as to why Sativex is better than unregulated smokable marijuana that gets you high, which is not seen as a therapeutic effect in its own right.


So the official government position will be: fine, you want marijuana legalized as a medicine? That is what we will give you in the form of Sativex, but what we will not allow are people getting high on marijuana, and smokable plant based marijuana will still be against the law. This rationale will split medical effects and recreational marijuana use in two separate classifications. Taking THC out of cannabis is like taking beer out of baseball.


This false dichotomy will set up an entirely new, legal, marijuana-based pharmaceutical industry worldwide, and all the profits from it will be privatized. So now, in addition to profitable privatized prisons, police department overtime, and military hardware manufacturers who sell police department gear, a new major source of profits will be created for the drug industries.


How long do you think it will take for Sativex to be approved as a maintenance drug treatment for "marijuana addiction," similar to methadone treatment for heroin use?


One look at the GW Pharma website bears this out. The site is really focused on attracting new investors, not on relieving the misery of sick patients.


I leave you with the goals of GW Pharma.


The GW Pharmaceuticals "marijuana product pipeline" -- soon to be available at your neighborhood pharmacy:










GW Pharmaceuticals



The GW Pharmaceuticals "marijuana product pipeline" -- soon to be available at your neighborhood pharmacy



Chairman's Statement
This year has seen GW continue to deliver. With the International commercial roll-out of Sativex® gathering pace, we can look forward to continued sales growth as well as
further approvals and launches. We also continue to invest in the pipeline in order to create new income streams to drive future growth and value creation."


"The Cannabinoid Research Institute has been formed to build a bridge between commercial enterprise and academia. We believe that this is the best way for GW to undertake fundamental science and to investigate the future commercial opportunities which may arise with phytocannabinoids."


"In addition to enhancing GW's pipeline of cannabis-based medicines by conducting early stage clinical trials"


"New product opportunities will arise from more precise targeting of cannabinoids to specific illnesses and from the discovery and application of new cannabinoid products".


"Collaborating with independent clinical investigators to explore novel uses of cannabinoids and cannabis extracts."
 

Rudedewd

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When Calif had legalisation on their ballot a few years back some of the biggest opponants were some of the commercial growers. One of the main reasons if not the only reason the feds cracked down of the dispensaries was greed, people aren't supposed to get rich off the backs of sick people and of course the ones who are poor are the ones who can't afford outrageous prices. People selling elbows to dispensaries for $2500 and up is just wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves. When we pass medical mj here this fall I'm going to do my damndest to see that people who need it get their medicine regardless of income. It should be about compassion not how much money can be had.
 

blackone

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Nothing wrong with industrious individuals and corporations earning money.
It's when corporations backed by the the guns of authorities are creating monopolies that the shit hits the fan.
I very much prefer truely state-run hospitals, roads etc. over state-sponsored private monopolies...
 

kongbud

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When Calif had legalisation on their ballot a few years back some of the biggest opponants were some of the commercial growers. One of the main reasons if not the only reason the feds cracked down of the dispensaries was greed, people aren't supposed to get rich off the backs of sick people and of course the ones who are poor are the ones who can't afford outrageous prices. People selling elbows to dispensaries for $2500 and up is just wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves. When we pass medical mj here this fall I'm going to do my damndest to see that people who need it get their medicine regardless of income. It should be about compassion not how much money can be had.
Right on the money Rudedewd. It was growers who defeated this proposition. Greed and power are hard to change
 
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Grass Lands

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When Calif had legalisation on their ballot a few years back some of the biggest opponants were some of the commercial growers. One of the main reasons if not the only reason the feds cracked down of the dispensaries was greed, people aren't supposed to get rich off the backs of sick people and of course the ones who are poor are the ones who can't afford outrageous prices. People selling elbows to dispensaries for $2500 and up is just wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves. When we pass medical mj here this fall I'm going to do my damndest to see that people who need it get their medicine regardless of income. It should be about compassion not how much money can be had.

What a crock a shit....
 

vapedg13

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When Calif had legalisation on their ballot a few years back some of the biggest opponants were some of the commercial growers. One of the main reasons if not the only reason the feds cracked down of the dispensaries was greed, people aren't supposed to get rich off the backs of sick people and of course the ones who are poor are the ones who can't afford outrageous prices. People selling elbows to dispensaries for $2500 and up is just wrong and they should be ashamed of themselves. When we pass medical mj here this fall I'm going to do my damndest to see that people who need it get their medicine regardless of income. It should be about compassion not how much money can be had.


hahaha... you think the feds only close down shops that operate for profit?? you think getting $125 -175 a oz is being greedy?


......................................OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH..............................


The Feds are going to close down all medical marijuana in all states in order to launch a legal version of marijunana produced by GW phara

California is just the testing ground...to see what kind of resistance the MMJ communnity will give to the Feds closing down all shops via the State officials

when GW Pharma goes big with TV ads touting Sativex as the new breakout miracle medicine that will in time be expanded to treat many other medical conditions across the board, generating billions of dollars in future profits in a monopoly scheme. Sativex is already legal in Spain, Germany, Denmark, New Zealand, the UK, and Canada.

The fix is in, or should I say the double cross. No matter who wins the 2012 presidential election, Obama or Romney, the DEA and IRS already have operational plans in place to launch a country-wide strike operation to shut down all 17 legal medical marijuana states and DC in a surge coup d'état in support of Sativex's dominance of the marketplace

DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart recently refused, in testimony before Congress, to admit marijuana is any different from heroin, meth or cocaine


If they don't stop legalization now, the DEA will lose half of its reason for being; if marijuana is legal, the agency potentially stands to lose half of its future funding. The 75 year war on marijuana is a failure, billions of dollars have been wasted, countless lives and families have been ruined. This is the worst kept secret in law enforcement.


Under this new plan, the wonderful healing therapeutic euphoric effects of smoked, vaporized or consumed cannabis will still get you arrested, producing overtime for police and profits for the largest industry prison in the world, and now big pharma is going be the new player at the table eager to cash in on the immorality of marijuana prohibition.


Sativex, the 100 percent marijuana, excuse me, the 100 percent marijuana-based cannabinoid mouth spray, will be introduced and marketed to physicians and pharmacies across the US right after the 2012 Presidential election. The new rebranding campaign's aim will be to downplay the link between medical marijuana and this new medical breakthrough field of "medicalized cannabinoids" which will be given FDA approval. To add to this mendacity, Sativex, even though it is a 100 percent extract of marijuana, will be granted Schedule II or III controlled drug status
 

RetroGrow

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hahaha... you think the feds only close down shops that operate for profit?? you think getting $125 -175 a oz is being greedy?


......................................OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH..............................


The Feds are going to close down all medical marijuana in all states in order to launch a legal version of marijunana produced by GW phara

California is just the testing ground...to see what kind of resistance the MMJ communnity will give to the Feds closing down all shops via the State officials

I don't think this will happen, but I know one thing for sure: I will never purchase any cannabis products from big pharma. I know, as do most of us, that we can produce better"medicine" than them.
 

OreoGrows

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I was a big Obama fan, not so much anymore as he has seemed to sell out on every major issue he stood for and he did not win cooperation with the opposition in the midst of all this compromise, if anything the sneaky scumbag repub's took him for a sucker hook line and sinker and still won support despite their obstructionism and lack of alternative solutions! Still, he is way better than Romney or any other non-option. I hope this story is true, but I fear it is just another story.

he is certainly better than romney and the others wont win. so hes got my vote im banking on him not having to cooperate his last term without worries of reelection, and hell be able to actually do some shit.
 

sprinkl

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Nothing wrong with industrious individuals and corporations earning money.
It's when corporations backed by the the guns of authorities are creating monopolies that the shit hits the fan.
I very much prefer truely state-run hospitals, roads etc. over state-sponsored private monopolies...

Thing is big corporations control the world. The weapon industry, the pharmaceutical industry, energy, food, pretty much everything is in the hands of big corporations, and with all the money(and other powers) the owners of those corporations(the elite rich families) got they can tell any goverment to do what they want. And if they can't they'll find a way to place someone in control that does what they want. Through influencing the public opinion, or by faking terrorist attacks, using christian bs to attack commy governments etc

Weed has been illegal because it's more easy for them to profit of the illegal trade than to let people grow it themselves and pay no taxes for it.
You can be damn sure when weed ever becomes legal it'll be because they found a way to make a lot of money out of it. Not because we are free people and have the damn right to grown any plant we damn well please on our own piece of goddamn fucking property. /rage
 
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he is certainly better than romney and the others wont win. so hes got my vote im banking on him not having to cooperate his last term without worries of reelection, and hell be able to actually do some shit.


this IS his last term homes.

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browntrout

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"Washington, DC. — Marijuana users and advocates for gay marriage around the country are celebrating after Mitt Romney once again pledged his hatred for marijuana and gay rights at a press conference this afternoon. In an era of ‘say one thing to get elected and then do the complete opposite once in office’, judging from the current promises made by Romney on the campaign trail, marijuana and gay marriage will be 100% legal in all 50 states if he does get elected."



In Soviet America... do one thing say another?
 

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When I see these guys do the news now all I can see shit spewing from their mouths it gets really messy/stinky so I stop watching... headband 707
 

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