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Mr Micro Presents : The Nanomachine

Mr_Micro

Member
Thank you again for all the wonderful replies everyone! :smoke:

Purp, I do still pop in from time to time. So far I've built 4 PC case grow boxes, done a grow in each one, and then sold the box for a small profit later down the line when money got tight.

So I'm not growing right now, but hopefully come spring I'll have the funds to build another PC case box (I'm thinking a slightly scaled up in size Nanomachine type design this time around) and get back to growing again. I don't smoke much these days, but I sure do love to grow and to see the smiles on people's faces when I plop a big bag of fine home grown in their hands for free after the grow is done :mrgreen:


But anyhoo, the midget louvers can be very effective in the right application and I would highly recommend them for slightly larger boxes. They worked really well for intakes in my most recent PC case grow (that I still need to update with harvest info and pics) seen here --->http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=86694

The reason I didn't use them in my Nanomachine is that the growing chamber was just so small that the amount of airflow needed to cool the 42 watt CFL in that little space just couldn't be provided by a single midget louver intake, and I didn't have the vertical space (or the means to stealthily hide) a second louver. So in lieu of using a midget louver I took the same basic louver design concept and made my own louver out of window screen for the front, sheets of plastic cut out from a storage tub for the walls, and a plastic coat hanger to reinforce the sides.
The design was the same as the midget louver, but with a wider surface area fitted to the maximum size my box could hide inside the grating on the front of the case.


But unless you're working with a space as tiny as the Nanomachine where you don't have room for 2 or more midget louvers than they should work just fine and will be a lot easier to work with (not to mention more professional looking) than trying to make your own light traps. I plan to use these handy little midget louvers in all my future micro growbox builds :smoke:


Hope that helps!
 
awesome mr micro..thanks for the quick reply as well..ill be headin to the store to pick up a few of the louvers here soon..ive also used your slightly modified version of sugabears carbon scrubber since i do not have access to net pots ..thanks alot for your help man and im lookin forward to seeing you get another grow started so i can tune in on another one of your shows :rasta: keep it green
 

AP KUSH

Member
Hey Mr Micro this is by far the most stealthy little operation i have ever seen on IC or OG. Im a big fan of any PC grower's ability to squeeze every last gram out of their plants in such a limited space with such limited light.

Im in the process of moving, and besides my NGB look-alike growbox with a 150 hps in it, i think i might build a case very similar to yours just because youve inspired me to add a micro setup to my operation.

It would also be cool to see how the yield would stack up against a HPS lamp in terms of gram per watt per square ft.

Keep it up Mr Micro your work inspires many of us.
 
Mr_Micro said:
What is The Nanomachine?

In short, I believe it to be the world's smallest 100% stealth and 100% portable single plant growing machine.
It's the result of about 2 months of hard work, research, planning, building, a lot of sweat, a little blood, and about half a dozen revisions.
Standing only 14" tall, 7" wide, and 15" long it is a growbox that can truly be used anywhere and everywhere to grow a small crop of cannabis. Completely light proof, completely smell proof, no strange cords or fans, and absolutely nothing that would give it away as a growbox.

That said, let me take you on a quick picture tour of my latest and greatest invention in micro growing technology...










First off, let's take a look at the outside of this stealth growing machine! As you can see it happens to be a computer case! I decided that for ease of design and stealth that a Micro ATX computer case would probably be my best option for stealth. Since computers normally weigh a signifigant ammount and also have fans built in that generate a fair ammount of noise it seemed that a computer case was the logical choice for a completely stealth design.
You will also notice that this particular computer also has a standard CD-Rom drive, 3.5" floppy drive, audio, USB, and firewire ports in the front, and all the appropriate ports and a fan in the back. Nothing strange looking at all and the only cord that runs out of the case is the power cord, which comes out exactly where it should come out!

Now lets see whats inside...




Now thats what I call a good use of modern technology!
Let's take a closer look...




The guts have been stripped out, the inside is lined with Reflectix reflective insulation, a wall has been installed that partitions the case into two sections, and the seams where any light or air might escape have all been filled in with black calk. Vaseline was applied to the door while the calk set so that the caulk would only stick to the parts I wanted to when it dried and would not stick to anything with vaseline on it.

The growing chamber of this micro computer case measures 14" tall, 9" long, and 6.75" wide. This equates to about 0.4 square feet of growing space. It is believed that the appropriate ammount of lighting to grow good plants is approximately 50 watts per square foot. All the lighting in this case is supplied by a single 42 watt CFL (A 6500k spectrum bulb for veg that is switched out to 2700k spectrum bulb for flowering). So 42 watts in about 0.4 square feet works out to 100 watts per square foot!

You can also see in this picture that in the rear electrical chamber of the cab there is a power strip mounted to the wall, a simple timer to control the light on the floor of the cab, and a 55 cfm exhaust fan placed directly infront of 12v DC adapters that power the two fans, but more on this later...





Here we see the right hand side of the growing chamber. It has a temperature and humidity gauge mounted into the wall and you can see the intake at the bottom of the chamber. This intake measures about 5.5" wide and 3.5" tall. I constructed a simple light trap for it that functions similar to a darkroom louver and allows it to take in air through the conveniently placed grating in the front of the case but without letting any light esacpe in the process.




On the left side of the case you can now see the 55 cfm exhaust fan that ventilates the growing section of this cab. This fan has a small removable piece of window screen material attached to the front to prevent any stray buds or leaves from getting caught in the fan.
Now would probably be a good time to talk about the ScrOG screen too! This removable screen is placed exactly 6.75" high in the case, and when used with 3.5" tall growing containers it will allow the plant's stem to grow 3.25" tall before being trained into the screen. This screen will be removed for vegging so I can get the plants closer to the light and then attached to the mounting brackets once I determine the sex of the plants and figure out which one I'm keeping. By this I mean that I will start with 2 plants and hopefully get 1 good female to work with out of them. After that the plant's buds will have 4" of space between the top of the screen and the bottom of the 42 watt CFL to grow and create a nice nano sized canopy. Obviously to do a grow on this small of a scale I will be going 12/12 straight from seed every time and growing in soil or a soiless mix, since this micro ATX PC case is just too small to support a hydro grow.





Next up we see a view of the inside of the case with the back wall pannel removed. From here you can get a good look at motherboard that was cut down to just the rear serial ports in the pannel on the back of the case, which gives it the appearence of being a real computer. You can also see that the exhaust fan that blows air out of the growing chamber is hooked up to a miniature carbon filter!






The design of this filter is based off of Suga Bear's micro carbon filter design, but I took it a step further by hacking up a small ziplock storage tub, epoxying the base of the tub over the rear of the exhaust fan, and epoxying the carbon filter itself to the lid of the tub. This way the carbon filter can easily be removed and the carbon can be changed without having to tear a ton of a duct tape off the fan and the filter. I thought this quick detach system was a pretty neat idea. The carbon filter also serves to nicely light proof the exhaust fan.

But as we all know, a carbon filter (even one this ingeniously designed) does restrict airflow quite a bit when hooked up to PC fans. And this is why I have a two stage exhaust system! In a picture further up I pointed out that the fan in the back of the PC case that exhausts air out of the electrical chamber. Well, since I was able to make the electrical chamber air tight and completely sealed off from the growing chamber, the fan in the very back of the case that exhausts air out all helps to pull air in from the growing chamber and through the carbon filter! So while the 55 CFM fan in the growing chamber pushes air through the carbon filter, the 55 CFM fan in the back of the PC case helps pull air through the carbon filter and ultimately exhausts the scrubbed air out the back of the case along with any heat generated by the 12 volt DC adapters from the fans.

And while I'm talking about ventilation, it's worth noting that this ventilation system keeps the case quite cool! The case never gets over 12*F above ambient room temperature and usually stays around 7 or 8* above ambient room temperature. So it's always a pleasent 77* to 85* inside the case.




Now what are you looking at in this picture? You are looking at this stealth PC case running in a completely pitch black room! The only light in the picture is coming from a clock sitting on the floor in the backround, so as you can see this PC case is 100% light proof. I spent hours and hours light proofing every tiny little seam and crack so that not a single speck of light escapes the case even when it's running in a pitch black room!








In these last few pictures you can see a size comparison between a Xbox 360 and my Nanomachine. As you can see from the pics, The Nanomachine isn't all that much larger than a modern home video game console and measures only 14" tall! It also uses extremely little power, so it's quite energy effiecent and earth friendly.






So what now?
Well, now I'm gonna pick this case up under my arm, set it up on my desk, and grow some bud right on my desktop! I've got some Sensi Seeds Northern Lights germinating as I type and as soon as they are germinated they'll be planted in some starter plugs and head into The Nanomachine for it's inaugural grow.

And from here on out I'm going to use this thread as grow diary for the first grow in what I believe to be the world's smallest 100% stealth growbox! I'll be posting some pics in a few days after the seeds have germinated and the seedlings have sprouted so stay tuned my friends, this should be one heck of a show.

And a big "thank you!" to everyone who took the time to give me advice on the lighting and ventilation for this creation and to everyone who might have taken the time to read this incredibly long post or even just took the time to look at some of the pictures. You guys (and gals) are truly awesome.



Stay safe, grow smart, and I'll see you when the sprouts pop up!
Im interested in your carbon filter...i love sugabears design and its perfect for me but i dont have access to net pots..i cant tell from your pictures but is that filter material wrapping a net pot or simply just shaped like that and epoxyed to the rubbermaid lid???
 

clay

Member
purpbythepound said:
Im interested in your carbon filter...i love sugabears design and its perfect for me but i dont have access to net pots..i cant tell from your pictures but is that filter material wrapping a net pot or simply just shaped like that and epoxyed to the rubbermaid lid???

wow, wicked old thread you dug up :)

if its from suga_bear's design, there is something in there holding it in that shape..and that something has a layer of activated charcoal in it. They dont have to be net pots..just something with a ton of holes in it...2 of them, that fit inside each other. I noticed the other day that our strawberries came in little plastic baskets with lots of holes (meant for being able to wash the strawberries in the container) and two of them with some filter-material/pantyhose and some act.charcoal would probably make a good mini-scrubber. I was also considering using the lids from two 50 (or 100 iguess) count cd spindles..and then just drilling a bunch of holes in them... a BUNCH

there are things all over, just gotta look around and think outside the growbox

good luck
 

riskofwater

Member
hey mr micro, i remember you talking of going further in depth on the electrical on this. can you please still do so , o r have you already and i missed it? thanks much!
:smoker:
 
wow, wicked old thread you dug up :)

if its from suga_bear's design, there is something in there holding it in that shape..and that something has a layer of activated charcoal in it. They dont have to be net pots..just something with a ton of holes in it...2 of them, that fit inside each other. I noticed the other day that our strawberries came in little plastic baskets with lots of holes (meant for being able to wash the strawberries in the container) and two of them with some filter-material/pantyhose and some act.charcoal would probably make a good mini-scrubber. I was also considering using the lids from two 50 (or 100 iguess) count cd spindles..and then just drilling a bunch of holes in them... a BUNCH

there are things all over, just gotta look around and think outside the growbox

good luck

i use the mesh pencil cups pantyhose and active carbon works like a charm but a little to big for my pc
 

prophat

New member
Nanomachine is amazing bro! Got a quick question, how did you manage to cut the motherboard? If you already answered this sorry I tried to look through and find it.
 

kaappifarmeri

New member
Bumping up old thread.

One question: on your first post you mentioned creating a light trap to the front of the nanomanchine that captures the light. Could you give me more info about this and what kind of material did you use to stop the light. Pics would also be great :D.

Thanks in advance.
 

THiCk

Member
Bumping up old thread.

One question: on your first post you mentioned creating a light trap to the front of the nanomanchine that captures the light. Could you give me more info about this and what kind of material did you use to stop the light. Pics would also be great :D.

Thanks in advance.

:yeahthats
 

bugasman

New member
Nanomachine was selled so it is impossible to Mr. Micro post pics of the front light trap. Search for light louvers in the web. You can make your own using geometrics, angles, cardboard paper or another material. Just remember the basic principle of optical Physics, Light travels in straight lines.[FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][/FONT]
 

BC Chronic

Paging Dr.Greenthumb
Veteran
great job Mr.Micro!! very impressed.. so you don't have an intake fan at all??I went way off track then but Red taught me a little and also told me to check out your thread...I did want a 151cfm fan blowing on my lights..I did want 4-36-40 watt lights..
Do you think that is overkill? Please let me know if you have the time
Once again thanks in advance if you can help me out
Oh yeah...it is a pc grow with 1.44 cubic feet of space
 

StealthDragon

Recovering UO addict.
Veteran
While this is bumped, I should give credit where credit is due. Mr. Micro you've been a huge inspiration to me. Because of you I've been able to save hundreds of dollars.
Your ideas hit me like a freightrain, the integrated elecrics, the dividing wall, and especially using the original plug-in on the pc to route the power thru, which is the key to the stealthyness of a pc grow (imho). I should have thanked you much sooner. :respect:



thank you sir. When I first saw your nano machine you convinced me to rethink the possibilities of a pc grow.
 

Zlatorog

Member
Srubninja: It's that a fan in front of the computer? How did you did that light trap?

Panconqueso: What's the wattage of your light and whic fan do you use?

I'm doing a PC grow myself and you guys would help a lot if you answer questions...thx
 
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