Moving to Oregon need lots of input please!!!

[skaterkrop14]

Ok so in the fall I plan on moving with my fiance and son out to Oregon.. probably portland maybe gresham. Ive been trying to do some research and just havnt found what i needed, so if you have information your input would be much appreciated...

Im wondering the best places to live, cost of living, and whether i should go legal and be a caregiver for my fiance and her gpa or just go under the radar... whats the laws if i was both there caregivers how many plants is it still just 6? with 18 veg

I know top notch is expected out there and im pretty sure i can compete, but what can i expect to get out of my os or #s. here in the midwest i can break it down and get 5000 but i know out there i shouldnt expect to get 3.. her gpa said i could possibly get 250 on zippos

ill probably do a 2-4k watt tent running coco as that is the medium i am used to.. prolly need to go bigger to expect to get paid out there but idk..

I got more questions but cant seem to think of them atm....

 

[MIway]

Been a while since I ran in those parts... but can give you some insight on where to live... PDX is a great city, but were I growing, would look more to the outlying area. Gresham is the #2 city in OR... maybe Beaverton now... but with urban growth boundaries for the City itself, the suburbs are the #2 & 3 city sizes in the State. Beaverton is SW... Gresham is East. Newer builds in the SW & W... older homes in the E & SE. Hillsboro in the West allows for some nice sized homes... some w privacy still... yet affordable.

If you drive 45 minutes outta the Cities, you get into some really nice farm & even mtn properties... working your way out Mt Hood... check out the smaller towns around there. Or go West out to the beach... really cool being out there too.

Bend is just perfect... if you don't mind the other side of the Mountain... high deserts so very nice to grow in. Bend is just next to perfect... and w/in 45 minutes... you can really find some super nice homes for still pretty cheap. Did I already mention how nice it is in Bend?


Eugene for a really chill & liberal college town. PDX is really clean & pretty... Bend has all the outdoor rec you could possibly need plus a great climate. Coast is lovely... lots & lots & lots of green... mountains & skiing... water rec & fishing... the Gorge with parasailing... just great country.

God I miss Oregon... ;-)

 

[skaterkrop14]

Yeah we want to be somewhat close to her grandpa and he lives near mount hood(i love snowboardin there) by estacada in the backwoods super gorgeous but im used to the city. Gresham seems like a good idea but if you say theres newer houses around beaverton i might look into that. im hoping to rent something nice for around 1200 to 14 tops.......... is electricity an issue or is growing pretty 'lax there for the most part?

 

[skaterkrop14]

can you run outdoor there?

 

[MIway]

That ^^^ I would look towards Southern Or... say South Umpqua.

 

[Snow Crash]

I moved into the area a few years ago and can share some insights.

First of all. Serious gang problems and heroin trade going on East of the river. PDX, Gresham, Milwaukee... Kids gets shot up over there twice a week. And that's not an exaggeration, there have been more than 40 gang related shootings this year. It is ALL on the East side.

Gresham is ghetto. I very much suggest steering clear of it. Just imagine your typical 1950's and 60's cookie cutter house neighborhoods with overgrown trees and yards, peeling paint, and thugs hanging out on every corner. If that's your cup of tea... by all means. But I wouldn't live there if I had the choice.

All over the greater Portland metro area you'll find very good deals. You should be able to find a 3bd/2ba in good-new condition for around $1000 per month plus utilities. I pay less than $900/mo after water/sewer/garbage for a very nice 2bd/2ba in a community (pool, gate, etc) on the western side of the area (Hillsboro/Beaverton/Cedar Mill). It is much nicer on this side of town. Intel and Nike have huge campuses up here so there is a lot of affluence on this side of town. Helps at least keep things new and clean around here.

The surrounding areas are fine. Especially out near Mt. Hood. I want to move towards the beach in the south eventually. Growing up in Santa Cruz, CA makes me miss the ocean even though it's only an hour or two away. If you look at a map of the state it is pretty easy to identify the PERFECT growing spot. There is a place where the green from the central valley area hits the brown from the high country desert. Right where the green meets brown on the map is a fantastic place to grow at. The clouds have dropped a good amount of their precipitation which allows for plenty of clear skies in the spring. It's a very interesting kind of climate zone that I could compare to France or Northern Italy.

Some of the best wine I've ever had comes from wineries poised right on this edge. If I had the opportunity to setup an outdoor "commune" then this is the rough location I'd choose for it. Somewhere around 3,000 feet. Bend is right in this area, and so is the area just west of The Dalles.

With regards to being medical you need to look into just getting the card first. Here in Oregon it isn't like it is in California. You don't just complain of sore joints, or bad menstrual crams, they take it serious up here. The idea is that they only offer a req if you would be on medication that has the same effect of cannabis, or to offset the negative side-effect of other medications. If the people you plan on growing for are not genuinely sick. I'm talking, cancer, glaucoma, slipped discs, stomach/intestinal issues... If they're not sick you might have a hard time getting a card.

Also, there is no dispensary system in Oregon. It is illegal, let me repeat that, ILLEGAL to sell your Cannabis to a genuinely sick person and charge them for your labor. In other words, you can charge someone for the cost of the nutrients, and the soil, and the equipment, and the utilities. You cannot charge them for your time or any labor used for trimming. There are enough medical growers out here that adhere close enough to this standard that for you to get more than $5 per gram, be it by the # or by the 1/8th, you'll need to travel out of state or sell to non-OMMP card holders (which of course there are plenty of).

A fair price for some decent "Kush" (killer bud) is around $180 to 200 an ounce around here for middle-men. They'll turn around and sell that at about $10 to $12 on the gram (or about $40 for a sack of some VERY good bud). If you do decide to come out here to make money at this then just have the understanding that you will need to be very good at growing quality bud on the cheap, and I'd rather you just stayed where you are if that is the case. If you want to come out here to ease the pain of some significantly ill people with talents and genetics that are unique to you then I welcome this to the OMMP community.

If you wanted to be a drug dealer under the guise of medical then head to California. OMMP is actually about medicine in the circles I frequent.

 

[vStagger Leev]

I personally do not live in Portland but Eugene. The prices here are down to almost 2000$ for superb headstash organic medicine. I've got friends pulling 2500 for the best. BUT you can get away with selling a single ounce for 200$ wich I prefer to do. Portland is a very beautiful city with lots to do and yes a gang problem on the east side. I moved to OR from North Dakot 5 years ago and will never go back or consider living somewere different.

There are height restricitons on plants, anything over 12in tall and wide is considered mature. But you can have 6 in flower. What allot of people do is grow 6 huge plants in 15gal pots and get a # a piece thus getting maximum bang from buck by very few plants and less maintenance. If you can find a place to sell your ganja make sure it is very topshelf as everyone and their grandmother has moved to the PAC NW thinking they can grow great weed, wich was great in the midwest but not so much here, and have failed miserablly only to flood the scene with mediocre weed and lower the prices of the good weed. I do recomend Eugene though for cost of living, and low crime rate with tons of growers and local support. Kitty Piercy our mayor is pro medical MJ wich is an amazing thing to have behind you! Thanks Kitty! I hope any of this helps and safe journeys to you and your family. Stagger

 

[vStagger Leev]

http://www.southernoregonalternativemedicine.com/ Work with these people and it will be very easy for you to get your family cards. It is not difficult like Snow says. VERY easy just have a legitamate problem.

 

[EastFortRock]

Definitely be a legal caregiver, but don't run your mouth about it , and grow trees. Have a way to keep the rain off in the fall if growing outdoor. Weed is low buck for very good stuff. If you want to make money on it , you will have to be an outlaw , and the state , city ,and counties are trying to catch med people selling there weed. A bust of med sellers in Grants Pass recently happened and the police spared no expense , using a bunch of under cover narcs. I live in Oregon, but if wanted to make money from weed [I don't] , I would move to Cali.

 

[budbasket]

Good luck, just knowing from past experience moving anywhere from midwest will generally cost more living expense wise. Worth it IMO on the simple fact there really is almost nothing exciting to do. Towards east and west are mountain ranges and then oceans past that. The coasts are deff where its at, looking at better weather/more activities.

 

[skaterkrop14]

Snow Crash and Stagger both of your replies helped a ton.. Im glad to know about the problems east of the river and in gresham.. that was where i was planning to move and could have been my biggest downfall. i HAVE to stay away from opiates from serious past addictions and i dont want heroin floating all around me.. im thinking i could find a place on the other side of the river in ptown. im not sure where portland state univ is located but ill most likely be going to school there


As for getting the card and being medical my fiance has had serious stomach/intestinal problems most of her life and has been from stomach doctor to doctor.. i wouldn't doubt she could easily get a card she uses it now for these problems and i like providing her with quality medicine.. if i were to do 6 huge girls under 2k watts whats a realistic yield?

 

[vStagger Leev]

She will have NO problem getting a card if she's got lot's of past medical history. As for were to live in Ptown?? Southwest is the shit!! Eatery's/brew pubs, architecture, and tons of funky people.

 

[skaterkrop14]

budbasket- yeah i know its going to be a huge difference in cost of living but ive prepared for that. i plan on going out there with more that 20k saved to be on the safe side if my girl and i dont find full time jobs..

EastFortRock- i def. feel you on keeping it quiet.. I know people talk about growing openly up there but from what ive learned here i will not be.. i dont want my door getting kicked down ever again (i fucking hate rippers) i have a family now. im sure most of my stuff will come back home if i want to make much

 

[Snow Crash]

She will have NO problem getting a card if she's got lot's of past medical history. As for were to live in Ptown?? Southwest is the shit!! Eatery's/brew pubs, architecture, and tons of funky people.

I completely agree. The hills in the North west side are pretty nice also if you're looking for a house with some property.

The one thing I like about Portland is they build around nature rather than straight over the top of it. There's a vibe here that makes it feel like less of a city.

Also, something you've got to do is take a drive on Hwy 26 heading East into the city. You'll be driving through this scenic hilly area, trees covered in ivy on both sides. Then you hit a tunnel. It snakes and turns and BAM! In front of you from out of fucking no where are sky scrapers and a very decent sized city. It's wild.

 

[use]

^not only that but on a clear day you can see mt. hood, mt. st. helens, and mt. reiner. I lived just outside of Lake Oswego and went to school in Portland.

One of my favorite places in Or is Bend and surrounding areas in the high desert. Paulina's Peak & the obsidian overflow. If I ever moved back NW, I would head to a remote area in the southeastern part of the state.

 

[vStagger Leev]

I completely agree. The hills in the North west side are pretty nice also if you're looking for a house with some property.

The one thing I like about Portland is they build around nature rather than straight over the top of it. There's a vibe here that makes it feel like less of a city.

Also, something you've got to do is take a drive on Hwy 26 heading East into the city. You'll be driving through this scenic hilly area, trees covered in ivy on both sides. Then you hit a tunnel. It snakes and turns and BAM! In front of you from out of fucking no where are sky scrapers and a very decent sized city. It's wild.

YUP! Exactly what it's like ptown is beautiful.

 

[whateverman]

Oregon scares me. I love it. But I'm not the type to be one-dimensional and only survive on my grow. And, personally I don't know a single dude in all of Oregon, out of my dozen or so friends who live there, who has a good-paying job.

 

[MIway]

^^^ I know of many. Just like any other place... just less populated overall, so that scales things back, over all. But it definitely has it's share of wealth.



Skater~ if you're at PSU... went there for a stint myself... and want decent neighborhoods, then SW is where it is at... though SE has some very quaint spots as well... say by Reed College, an excellent school btw.

Beaverton has some nice spots, but is heavily populated... and has it's issues just like Gresham... and it's not like the whole East side is a heroin den, but certainly an older neighborhood. SE in Milwaukie has some nice homes, esp down by the river.

Hop across the river to LO & WLynn... the uber nice suburbs... really nice. Tigard is a bit farther from the river, but is also very nice SW burb. You can go a little closer to PSU by finding something near the Capital Highway, just prior to hitting Beaverton... tucked in there with some nice homes at affordable rates.


Fuck, I miss Oregon.

 

[Snow Crash]

Oregon scares me. I love it. But I'm not the type to be one-dimensional and only survive on my grow. And, personally I don't know a single dude in all of Oregon, out of my dozen or so friends who live there, who has a good-paying job.

There's a lot of money in the Tech and energy industries up here. I know several people that have started their own businesses, like a grocery warehouse and delivery, who do very well for themselves.

I'm in the tech industry myself. It is competitive but that keeps the pay healthy and steady. I make the same here as I did in the Silicon Valley except my total cost of living, between Winco Grocery stores and rent and power, is about half of what it had been before.

I survived up here without a job for several months on about $1000 per month. It was tough, I racked up a few bills on the CC, but now that I'm working and growing and everything is kicking... Summer is maybe going to show up soon. I dunno. Life is pretty good up here.

I talk it up to everyone.

 

[MrSterling]

What's this about PDX gang violence east of the river? How far east? Ive spent a bunch of time in NE and SE and thought it was great. Maybe I wasn't far enough out.