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Moving to Colorado... Talk to me, people!
- Thread starter Mr. Brown
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It’s totally worth it! …Stress kills, (or makes you sick/er, at the very least.)
…I moved back to CO from VA nearly 5 yrs. ago and I feel so lucky to be here. I’m not sure I would’ve made it through the past 3-4 years w/o cannabis.
…All that being said, I am concerned that a few ‘overzealous’ vacationers could ruin the small amount of ‘freedom' we’ve all managed to achieve.
…Particularly as I've read comments like: ‘I don’t care about the public consumption laws' etc., as people discuss their plans to vacation here. We haven’t won the war yet and we all want CO and WA to be just the start of legalization. I can’t help but wonder if it might have been more advantageous for the entire cannabis movement/country in the long-term, to have excluded non-residents, at least at first…All it would take is a few douchebags, a little negative PR and a well funded/written ballot measure, to walk back all of the progress we’ve made. Hopefully people will keep that in mind as they come to CO for their ‘canna-cation’.
Anyways, good luck and welcome to all of you refugees!
Get here soon!
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Well... I can say that it sure is nice to see more and more people using cannabis.
Lots of folks that used to be grumpy and in pain all the time are now smiling and happy and glad to be alive and working.
Sooooooo Coooool!
Stay Safe!
p.s. Remember... anyone moving to my area (Fairplay, 80440) let me know. I'll travel up to 2hrs to come and teach you all I know about the medicinal end of cannabis. My only fee is that you practice what I teach you and pass it on to others.
Lots of folks that used to be grumpy and in pain all the time are now smiling and happy and glad to be alive and working.
Sooooooo Coooool!
Stay Safe!
p.s. Remember... anyone moving to my area (Fairplay, 80440) let me know. I'll travel up to 2hrs to come and teach you all I know about the medicinal end of cannabis. My only fee is that you practice what I teach you and pass it on to others.
monsoon
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…All that being said, I am concerned that a few ‘overzealous’ vacationers could ruin the small amount of ‘freedom' we’ve all managed to achieve.
…Particularly as I've read comments like: ‘I don’t care about the public consumption laws' etc., as people discuss their plans to vacation here. We haven’t won the war yet and we all want CO and WA to be just the start of legalization. I can’t help but wonder if it might have been more advantageous for the entire cannabis movement/country in the long-term, to have excluded non-residents, at least at first…All it would take is a few douchebags, a little negative PR and a well funded/written ballot measure, to walk back all of the progress we’ve made. Hopefully people will keep that in mind as they come to CO for their ‘canna-cation’.
Anyways, good luck and welcome to all of you refugees!
Get here soon!
RESPECT, natty! It's refereshing to hear someone else who sees that restraint in public is key, and IS the law. Just today my son came home from boarding at Vail and said there was a guy smoking a joint in the lift line and talking how he was here on vacation and how cool it was it is "legal". My son said it took about 30 seconds before the folks all around started giving the clown shit and pointing out that there were kids skiing/standing in line and telling him in no uncertain terms that he was out of line and the clueless touron put it out.
Folks are incredibly stupid. It may be legal to smoke in private here, but the ski slopes are on FEDERAL property and Amendment 64 isn't recognized there. On top of that, it's against the CO Skier Safety Act to use drugs/be high while skiing and the personal liability is crazy of you injure/kill someone and are found to be impaired.
We could still see resident-only regs, natty. None of this is yet set-in-stone and the parameters, like non-resident restrictions DO NOT take a vote of the People...only a swing in opinion by our legislators that things are out of control and a quick vote under the Gold Dome.
enjoy....responsibly!
You folks are really the greatest. Thanks for all of your information and support. I hope to kick back with a nice bong rip with all of you.
Fork -- Godspeed to you, man.
<3 Tesla
Fork -- Godspeed to you, man.
<3 Tesla
I'll be glad when that kind of ignorance is gone, the laws are changed, and you can smoke cannabis in public, should you feel the need.
Kids? Talk about ignorance. The only 'harm' it's going to do to those kids is mess up their head around the subject of cannabis. Teaching kids that cannabis is harmful is just wrong.
Stay Safe!
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I think we will all be glad when cannabis is seen in the same light as an adult drinking a glass of wine/beer; however, the fact is we are not there yet.
For now, we have to prove to them that this can work and that legalization isn’t a threat to children or society.
We gotta work with what we ended up with. It’s not perfect, but CO now has some of the most liberal/progressive cannabis laws on Earth. And with time, we can expand and improve upon them.
For now, we have to prove to them that this can work and that legalization isn’t a threat to children or society.
We gotta work with what we ended up with. It’s not perfect, but CO now has some of the most liberal/progressive cannabis laws on Earth. And with time, we can expand and improve upon them.
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darkvade420
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i live here and its not all like an ocean beach style llving with legalweed added .more like a bunch of snobbies and paranoided politicans franticly douching around figuring how to keep the police employed but yet let weed to be legalized.everyone i know seems to be afraid to admit they smoke to other people even thou its not a crime supposliy-minus the younger crowed who are always carefree .basicaly i think its more legal then it was but still alot of uptights and conservitave style people who try to pretend we didnt just vote it legal.
not trying to be an asshole but here's my 2c on the conversation:
bottom line to me is this: teaching kids cannabis is harmful is wrong. also teaching kids that they can tell people to put somthing LEGAL out..... that's just asshole-ish.
i may not like the smell of cigs,
but i respect other peoples right to smoke something that is LEGAL where they please.
altho cannabis smoking is not legal is public..... that is simply the LETTER of the law.... the SPIRIT of the law, and the TRUE will of Colorado voters is a lil diff, in my opinion.
im not taking sides on this stupid argument because best i can tell we are ALL ON THE SAME SIDE HERE. During this stigma-erasing-generation we have to take small steps like nattygurl was saying, we have to be the example.
my new motto is "puff so much in public that non-cannabis-users fail their piss tests"
that being said im gonns puff this shit wherever whenever i feel like it, just like i've been doing, ill be waiting for sumone to ask me to put it out, hasn't happened yet.....
since hydro soil doesnt want to be the one to say it, i will be:
"go smoke in public" it's the best way to erase the stigma of cannabis in my opinion... people will see others puffin herbs and acting "normal" not like drunk fuckd up idiots.... perhaps eventually they will come to enjoy the smell of my fine aromatic cannabis burning in public.
bottom line to me is this: teaching kids cannabis is harmful is wrong. also teaching kids that they can tell people to put somthing LEGAL out..... that's just asshole-ish.
i may not like the smell of cigs,
but i respect other peoples right to smoke something that is LEGAL where they please.
altho cannabis smoking is not legal is public..... that is simply the LETTER of the law.... the SPIRIT of the law, and the TRUE will of Colorado voters is a lil diff, in my opinion.
im not taking sides on this stupid argument because best i can tell we are ALL ON THE SAME SIDE HERE. During this stigma-erasing-generation we have to take small steps like nattygurl was saying, we have to be the example.
my new motto is "puff so much in public that non-cannabis-users fail their piss tests"
that being said im gonns puff this shit wherever whenever i feel like it, just like i've been doing, ill be waiting for sumone to ask me to put it out, hasn't happened yet.....
since hydro soil doesnt want to be the one to say it, i will be:
"go smoke in public" it's the best way to erase the stigma of cannabis in my opinion... people will see others puffin herbs and acting "normal" not like drunk fuckd up idiots.... perhaps eventually they will come to enjoy the smell of my fine aromatic cannabis burning in public.
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The letter of the law is all the matters though, Avanish. Sure, folks can smoke cigs in public, because the letter of the law doesn't prohibit it. Folks can't walk around with open containers of alcohol, as it's against the letter of the law.
You think anti-pot lobbyists, ads, etc. will feature the spirit of the law or the will of the voters? Dollars to donuts it will focus on the letter of the law and that same free for all attitude will be used against you.
You're either happy to work within the constraints of the law or you're not. If not, don't be surprised if there's backlash. Folks in CO and WA are the test states, fair or unfair. Keep pushing the envelope and it just may fall off the table.
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You think anti-pot lobbyists, ads, etc. will feature the spirit of the law or the will of the voters? Dollars to donuts it will focus on the letter of the law and that same free for all attitude will be used against you.
You're either happy to work within the constraints of the law or you're not. If not, don't be surprised if there's backlash. Folks in CO and WA are the test states, fair or unfair. Keep pushing the envelope and it just may fall off the table.
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maybe to those that let fear guide them the letter of the law is all that matters.... but that ain't me
edit: btw folks drink alcohol in public all of the time, it's a pretty ignored law, esp. if drop ur bottle in a brown paper bag. hence the diff. between the spirit and the letter..... in action.
The spirit is what got us to this point.....
if the letter of the law was all that mattered ever..... we wouldnt be where we are currently at in colorado..... praising the letter of the law is praising status quo! If the envelope dont get pushed, all this stuff gets LEFT OFF THE TABLE & colorado would still be just another black market state like all the rest.
I'm glad someone chose to push the envelope here in co, so that we can now enjoy this new status for cannabis.
I'm happy to work, grow & live within the law, and i grew up with cannabis OUTSIDE the law like most of us..... Im not about to blow smoke in ur baby's face or anything, but puffin herbs on the patio of a nite club, or inside venues that are ok w. puffin herb (there are many and more everyday). these scenarios are technically illegal but..... in a bar, where alcohol is served hence no minors, the management is cool w it.... what's the problem if i light up?
edit: btw folks drink alcohol in public all of the time, it's a pretty ignored law, esp. if drop ur bottle in a brown paper bag. hence the diff. between the spirit and the letter..... in action.
The spirit is what got us to this point.....
if the letter of the law was all that mattered ever..... we wouldnt be where we are currently at in colorado..... praising the letter of the law is praising status quo! If the envelope dont get pushed, all this stuff gets LEFT OFF THE TABLE & colorado would still be just another black market state like all the rest.
I'm glad someone chose to push the envelope here in co, so that we can now enjoy this new status for cannabis.
I'm happy to work, grow & live within the law, and i grew up with cannabis OUTSIDE the law like most of us..... Im not about to blow smoke in ur baby's face or anything, but puffin herbs on the patio of a nite club, or inside venues that are ok w. puffin herb (there are many and more everyday). these scenarios are technically illegal but..... in a bar, where alcohol is served hence no minors, the management is cool w it.... what's the problem if i light up?
Fear, eh? As far as praising the status quo, was it legal for every adult in CO to privately grow 6 plants in their home prior to Amendment 64? I'm not saying the envelope doesn't need pushing. Small nudges over time is what got to this point, rather than one fell swoop.
Your vision of toking in night clubs, bars (ie privately-owned adult-only venues) is a far cry from toking up in lift lines with children present on Federal land. I don't disagree with your vision, rather the specific instance that was discussed earlier.
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Your vision of toking in night clubs, bars (ie privately-owned adult-only venues) is a far cry from toking up in lift lines with children present on Federal land. I don't disagree with your vision, rather the specific instance that was discussed earlier.
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I feel ya astartes.... like i said, we are all on the same page here im sure, some are more conservative, some (like me) more proactive....
and our differences in opinions on the matter probably only differ on small circumstantial occurences.
back to puffin in public conversation:
maybe not in line at the slopes, but on the lift is still ok right??????
very recently:
I overheard a local police officer at Monarch Mountain straight up tell the management that he will not go around looking to hand out tickets for smoking herb on the slopes, he laughed at the concept of if it....
so unless fed. agents are planning on staking out the slopes..... doubt that
and our differences in opinions on the matter probably only differ on small circumstantial occurences.
back to puffin in public conversation:
maybe not in line at the slopes, but on the lift is still ok right??????
very recently:
I overheard a local police officer at Monarch Mountain straight up tell the management that he will not go around looking to hand out tickets for smoking herb on the slopes, he laughed at the concept of if it....
so unless fed. agents are planning on staking out the slopes..... doubt that
We're basically saying the same thing, haha! Technically, not supposed to toke on the lifts, but it wouldn't stop me. But that comes down more to being responsible and respectful. If kids were on the chair directly in front of or behind me, I'd hold off on lighting up until I got on the slopes.
Great to hear the about the attitude of the local cops. That does bring up an interesting point that seems to split the two camps down the middle. Is it better for folks to show restraint and respectfulness in public, as things are still in flux with the new law? Or is a better approach to force the issue into submission? That's certainly a personal choice for everyone to make. Personally, I feel that forcing the issue in this manner backs people into a corner and things rarely go well from that point. Those folks that would feel cornered certainly may be in the minority, but those are also the people that likely vote and complain to their local reps about every little thing.
With everything in flux, I am simply of the opinion that a modicum of restraint will go a long way in winning over the doubtful and those on the fence.
Right or wrong, time will certainly tell.
a.
Great to hear the about the attitude of the local cops. That does bring up an interesting point that seems to split the two camps down the middle. Is it better for folks to show restraint and respectfulness in public, as things are still in flux with the new law? Or is a better approach to force the issue into submission? That's certainly a personal choice for everyone to make. Personally, I feel that forcing the issue in this manner backs people into a corner and things rarely go well from that point. Those folks that would feel cornered certainly may be in the minority, but those are also the people that likely vote and complain to their local reps about every little thing.
With everything in flux, I am simply of the opinion that a modicum of restraint will go a long way in winning over the doubtful and those on the fence.
Right or wrong, time will certainly tell.
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darkvade420
Active member
Pretty much comes down to this we all have different comfort levels and there has not been a law that prevented people from smoking pot out doors,indoorz,ect.. people have always done what they will and they always will even if there is risk involved.when weed was illegal i was smoking pot now that its legal with a 30 page book attached to it ..im still smokin pot,somedays ill get ancey and go for a walk in a park a take a few puffs or i might be on a road trip to go fishing and decided to get high other days ill go up to casino walk out front and get stoned before i blow my cash nobody in my history of smoking and getting high has ever told me that i was a bother to them becuse of my weed some people have even asked for some hits or to join in and share the time.like the last guy was sayin if we are acting paranoid then we will draw bad attention but if you act free then you might just be free.
can't say the attitude of the local cops on cannabis is illustrated by the story i told...
i think it has more to do with slopes not wanting stories coming out like "dont go to monarch mountain, u can't puff there!!" and so everyone goes to CB instead or something. basically the cops are protecting local economy more so than they are supporting peoples use of cannabis.
as far as "how 2 act".
act how u like.
if u dont feel it's ok to smoke sumplace... someone else 5 people away may think it's fine....
this is the world i would like to live in, if i smell puff puff, good chance im lighting also....
some will be conservative, and some peeps will like that,
some will puff away
and other will love that.
Extremely well put, Astartes.
It’s all about “set and setting”…
what utensil/device you use and where you are/who’s around you.
There’s a huge difference between:
…smoking a joint at (most) disc golf parks on a Tues. afternoon,
a Phish or Reggae on the Rocks show at Red Rocks,
or using a vape pen in an empty public bathroom…
…and…
…smoking a bowl while walking past an elementary school at recess,
a packed playground on a warm, sunny Saturday afternoon,
or whipping out a joint at Red Rocks, during a Raffi concert.
I just hope people will continue to use a little judgement and consideration, the way we all did before Amendment 64.
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forkup
Member
I'll be growing medical, my wife qualifies plus I know another patient that will assign me as their provider. I won't be buying after my first grow. Plus there's always the chance that the producer rules will be open to the little guy. Colorado sounds great and would be a closer move to me but the scene sounds like its all big business. Thanks monsoon and Tesla
darkvade420
Active member
i was 12 years old when i started smokin wasnt a big deal im semi successfull and doin alright.
