Most consitent autoflower?

[offthehook]

He he he, just you wait.

MNS, I was trying to be nice to him. Well, at least polite. It's hard to blame people with all of the misinformation.

I mean, he's planting them two inches apart and then trying to select for height while ignoring the fact stretching for competition would nullify the results. Not to mention plants that are too close together aren't going to get the airflow they need and mold spores would rapidly spread in that static environment further nullifying any results. On top of all of that he's using blunt force selection to try and homogenize (not trying to homogenize anything. In my first post I recommended the OP learning to live with it as it is.)the line, might take a couple decades to see results.

Trying to grow them in large numbers on a square meter each would most likely well, eh, get ya cought...

I dunno, does an architect get mad when he see's a kid playing in a sand box?

Or does he just think "aww, isn't that cute."

Rather the kid than beeing a snob.

 

[Mr Jay]

I'm not a snob, I'm just trying patiently to explain some basics to you. If you want to be a mewling child about it be my guest, but pick up a tube of burn cream for those 3rd degrees you'll be getting.

MNS is a standup guy in the autoflower community and has had the patience of a saint with people much more difficult than you, so I don't know what kind of a bug you sent crawling up his ass. He works directly with some very well respected breeders and his gear will be test grown on this site for you and everyone else to see. However, he's extremely busy stretching himself thin as April ice trying to help so many people out at once so please excuse him if he doesn't have the time for your tantrum.

You said you were selecting for certain traits, which means you're trying to homogenize the line. Don't lie.
I also noticed you had nothing to refute my argument, just name calling. If name calling is all you have then you have clearly lost the argument. So, wanna listen yet?

 

[offthehook]

I believe you mean empirical evidence, and what you want from him would be referred to as "evidence"

Misspelling and misusing big words does not intimidation or a call out make.

How's 'peer reviewed' evidence, lol

 

[offthehook]

I am listening all the time man. All you come up with from my understanding is to give em a square meter each and start selecting from there if you wish getting a shot at homogenity.

Now I try telling you that this is perfectly true if we were to live in a perfect world with no oppressing entities around trying to put us in jail for such thing.

But yeh, man, I am listening all the time, waiting for the good stuff to come...

The way it is nowadays, I don't have an urge myself to produce homogenous stuff that way. It is what it is, that's what I said.

Selecting for traits the way I do is just ment to maintain the strains. At some point there will be no improvement anymore so then it becomes what it is.

 

[offthehook]

I'm not a snob, I'm just trying patiently to explain some basics to you. Where where? If you want to be a mewling child about it be my guest, but pick up a tube of burn cream for those 3rd degrees you'll be getting.

I am not to get burned as I have not said anything that puts me on fire.

MNS is a standup guy in the autoflower community and has had the patience of a saint with people much more difficult than you, Fucking wow! so this tells us what about consistency rates? so I don't know what kind of a bug you sent crawling up his ass. He works directly with some very well respected breeders Respected by who and for what reason? The consistency rates of their auto's?and his gear will be test grown on this site for you and everyone else to see. Ah finally, been waiting for something impressive already for a long long time to come.
I hope you don't mind me for shoving some seeds in the soil and supply this country meanwhile myself a lill bit. Yanno, ya never know for sure how long it all still might take, lol
However, he's extremely busy stretching himself thin as April ice trying to help so many people out at once so please excuse him if he doesn't have the time for your tantrum.
Why did he bother chiming in if he did not have anything to say? Could have been helping others meanwhile.

You said you were selecting for certain traits, which means you're trying to homogenize the line. Don't lie.
I also noticed you had nothing to refute my argument, just name calling.You called shenenigans on me first. Last time I checked you refered to me indirectly as a child.
Starting from there, this is why I guess this thread has got such a weird twist. If name calling is all you have then you have clearly lost the argument. So, wanna listen yet?

Meanwhile I have got nothing from you to support your argument other then that MNS seems to be an upstanding & well respected guy in some autoflowering community.
No pics, no numbers, just a promise of some narcistic 'architect' and his prospective enterprise telling me I donno how to grow 'properly'?

 

[Femora]

Eeeh...

Eeeh...

Wtf guys?!?

How about open your eyes for a bit, take two steps back and get a overview..

There is no right or wrong in different kinds of breeding.
Jay n' MNS, you have the facts infront of you what OTH are doing, still you cant think of it as a way of breeding because its another way then the regular way with a single bushy plant with huge nugs..

Open those eyes, and stop beeing so narrow and naive.

To me, a F5 grown outdoors up north would be aaawesome to try out. I would probably not grow it anywhere as tight as OTH, cus of trimming nugs is booring, and im really curious how those DR would perform in 20l soil, a meter apart.

And if its a f5 its way more used to this weather then any commercial strain I can get..
On top of that mold resistand and vigorious..


Just saying... Open up, think about it in different angles.. And.. Oth; i figure the different minded people could easier understand you if they knew how you process your plants after harvey..



Just remember...
<3

Stay safe!
fem

 

[offthehook]

Yes man Femora, I am all for different ways of breeding too. A joint effort is what has created the world as it yanno.

But somehow this thread has got a twist. Maybe the fault is in me, maybe the fault is elsewhere, I donno, but to be honest, I have never encountered any of my conversations here on IC to go like this before.

Glad that the mods haven't binned it yet, as I am still realy open to all the wisdom these guys have to share with us.

Maybe they are just shy or reserved or too bussy or something and it all will be comming soon, but I am confident these guys here are sitting on something everyone should know. (no sarcasm intended)

One love mate, be sure of that, but maybe some bad vibes are sometimes needed in order to get the good ones going again? Then again, it's all just vibes man, lol

<3

 

[mckb024]

oth, and mr jay can't we all just get along I know it's hard to really see what someone is saying just from text, but we are not in competition here. BTW is't twitter having this same problem. Not to mention I thought this was about the more consistant auto's availible !!!

here's some bud porn to soothe the mood.
BCG's Spyder

 

[offthehook]

There's definitly no competition here Mcb024. Thanks for trying to sooth the mood, lol.

Some day, Jay's stuff may be great to improve on the Diesels or vice versa, who knows.

Seeds of these Diesels are availeble for free, but just on a different site. IC mag rules are somehow more profit driven.

 

[mckb024]

Ok my friend hope all is well, and we start hearing more about stabalized auto's.

peace, and take care

 

[offthehook]

So do I Mckb024. Maybe I should just shut the fuck up for a while in this thread and let Mr Jay and Mr MNS have the floor...

There ya go guys, trying to keep my lips zipped up for all of your good stuff to come...
Just leave my persona out of it please. Makes it easyer on me to sit and just watch.

 

[new3]

IC mag rules are somehow more profit driven.

yup I don't trust secret garden seeds at all. fucking thieves. had a desc of their secret citrus 2 years ago saying it was a cross of an auto afghan from world of seeds and short term amnesia from dutchbreed. then flip flopped their description to make it seem like it's a worked strain from photo/auto ibl, they are f1 pollen chuckers. who wont even give credit where credit is due LOL and try to hide the truth, dishonest motives.
They will remove mention of any reputable seed bank. don't you love it?

 

[MrNiceSmoke]

So do I Mckb024. Maybe I should just shut the fuck up for a while in this thread and let Mr Jay and Mr MNS have the floor...

There ya go guys, trying to keep my lips zipped up for all of your good stuff to come...
Just leave my persona out of it please. Makes it easyer on me to sit and just watch.

the floor is your bro...my time is to precise to be messing with ignorance and misleading info...good luck on your ventures.

 

[offthehook]

All the best to you too bro.

Thanks and zip, lol