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Most consitent autoflower?
- Thread starter Fluxcap
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No.
The most consistend auto I know of is called Finola hemp and is perfectly legal where I live and beeing grown by the several acres by some.
To say that they are all nearly identical would be a load of BS.
I like my auto's, don't take me wrong, but breeding technicly it's hard, if not impossible to get identical twins out of them.
In a batch there's always this percentage of lousy ones, mediocre ones and superior ones to my experiance.
Learning to live with this might be your best stategy I suppose.
Think of it like your siblings (or phenotypes, in this case). Both have same parents, but each sis or bro is different!! THANK GOODNESS! F-1's seem to be more or less consistent, hybridizing 2 different AF's. It's tricky....I usually pick out the BEST female out of 20 and best male same number....to mate. Actually I like the intricacy's of differing characteristics....mostly superior vs. inferior genetic pool.
I call shenanigans on all of you. There are plenty of very consistent autos out there, just pay attention to people's grow journals. Diesel ryder and mossy's jems are extremely consistent. Will they be identical? No. If you want that then go grow with clones. But they will be very consistent, no one will be able to tell them apart when they smoke. Brown cows and blackcows, the milk is still milk.
I totally agree, I bred Spyder to be very consistent, and peoples grow logs show it.
Thanks once again on the shenanigans remark, lol
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I'm sure the integracy of your statement is sincere CA.
Now, once you'll even get remotely near the same budding capacity our Finola plants exhibit, we'll be taking your consistency for well performing yields into consideration too ^^
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I've grown quite a few autos and I don't think you have any clue what you're talking about. Autos are incredibly potent and nowhere near mediocre. If you're here to troll, you're doing a good job. Why even bother posting in the auto section if you don't like them?
Put up or shut up about these finola plants, pictures or it didn't happen.
Put up or shut up about these finola plants, pictures or it didn't happen.
I had monster Finola bud pics for many to see, but had to delete them because of a raid. Google might render some if you're interested, though what I found from there was merely industrial plots as opposed to well token care of individual plants.
I don't like ppl ordering me btw, that's rude.
Fyi, Finola is an auto flowering hemp variety btw, not a drug variety.
I only brought it up to show what an auto flowering variety is capable of when beeing bred in large numbers for over more then 20 years.
Their budding capacity becomes huge under the right circumstances...
Small auto breeders like Canned abyss, or me for that matter, can't even remotely tip that scale, because there never were similar opportunities for drug variety auto's the way it was done with Finola.
You sir, are too emotionally attached to your auto's.
So am I, but I just had an urge to point out fact from fiction.
Therefore, I do however seem to be emotionally attached to truth, wich to me is more importend then promoting my seeds on the web.^^
Also the fact that I have some critic does not automaticly mean that I am one of those who are in the habbit of trashing auto's.
It means that there are still some hurdles to jump before we arrive where we are hoping to get.
A challenge to confront still. Opportunity if you wish.
If ppl are claiming their auto's to be consistent for 'something' then that 'something' needs to be specified first.
Consistent for what!?
FWIW ^^
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Consistent to grow nearly identical to all of it's sisters from batch to batch?
Not happening thus far.
Unless there is an identical similarity for all of them buds beeing undersized in compare to Finola^^ wow, how great!!!
And to get them all identical for cannabinoid profiles is breeding technicly the most easy trait to achieve anyways.
LBH as a breeder has created individuals that already have gotten some more weight in their tops.
Still they are not all consistent for beeing the same mega yielding individuals of wich he's placing a pic every once a while.
S'all works in progress still guys...
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That was my experience with Samsara Ultraviolet. 5 plants, 19", 24", 25", 27" & 29" had the same growth habit, smelled the same & smoked the same. The shortest had trouble breaking out of the seed shell, never had quite the vigor of the others.
Spyder is on order- looking forward to growing some.
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Once we're breeding on this scale we'll be talking again about consistency. ^^
I once pampered the shit out of one of those plants, and what came out was not comparable with what they got to show on their industrial plots.
After topping, the plant got 12 main colas, each significantly larger then a 2 liter coca bottle !
Pics and reactions to that pic have been in the Finnish outdoor, 2012 section.
Because there were buildings of my property on that pic, I had to erase it after we got raided.
Cops tested it for THC and had to leave empty handed.
These are 4 of my biggest, fully seeded Diesel ryder F3 during the worst year ever.
That is only 4, out of several thousends of plants that were able to hit the 75 gr line that year.
It's going somewhere but we're not there yet, is all I have to say ^^
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Hypetrain in here....
Are we talkin bout the most consistent AF Cannabisthat can get you high or are we talking about industrial hemp Cannabis with a THC rating below whatever percentage.
Two different ballgames there unless someone wants to actually get past hinting and mention a breeding project.
Start a Finola thread and show us your awesome hemp plants. If you're implying that you're in the middle of some big breeding project, good for you. Hope it goes well and maybe it will even be something special when you're done.
Back On Topic...........
Also had some good experience with Mossy's Jem even through generations.
Are we talkin bout the most consistent AF Cannabisthat can get you high or are we talking about industrial hemp Cannabis with a THC rating below whatever percentage.
Two different ballgames there unless someone wants to actually get past hinting and mention a breeding project.
Start a Finola thread and show us your awesome hemp plants. If you're implying that you're in the middle of some big breeding project, good for you. Hope it goes well and maybe it will even be something special when you're done.
Back On Topic...........
Also had some good experience with Mossy's Jem even through generations.
Ok, so what do you pull per plant and in what consistency?
Mind backing up your claim with some imperical proof?
Like you show us your 1000 seeds germinating and 98% turns out to become all 100+ grammers that remain 100% mold free during a nasty summer? ( keeping it low to give you a chance. ^^)
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No problem!!! You can easily get free software to recover those pics... now go look for them! Oh, that's a polite suggestion, NOT a rude "order". Since there was no trouble, why did you have to delete them?
I checked out the Finola development on that site... present autos already equal, or even outdo, what most of the pics there show, particularly the pics of the stalk comparison to the central euro hemp... but that's all Finola is - HEMP. Once you start to breed important stuff into it, such as chemotype, you'll end up with somewhat shorter plants. Cross it with something like a long-season sativa, and they won't even finish for the Finnish, especially since that site mentions 100 to 120 days from seed to harvest... which is 3 crops per year.
Most autos get done by 77 days... so you can get 5 crops per year with present autos. Yield over time beats your hemp..
But there are PLENTY of consistent autos out there to buy, just don't choose something based on color, crosses of way different sativa and indica strains, or especially from "new" breeders and new strains. If there are "phenos" mentioned by growers, that's still an unstable hybrid, NOT a strain... people are quick to try and "cash in" without doing the YEARS of work to get a stable strain.
The first seeds I ever got (from a bank) 25 years ago were Skunk #1. Everything was identical. Some older strains of autos are just as consistent. Particularly ones that people have been growing out and selecting for over the last five (plus) or so years.
Mind dropping any names and evidence of the traits they are consistent at?
Just don't say Diesel ryder, I debunked thatone already.
(It's still my most favorite smoke, don't take me wrong, It's just that I hear a lot of bla bla bla but can't seem to find the sheep.)
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You didn't debunk anything, just made some claims without evidence and backed it up with one random picture that proves nothing. Like I said before you don't understand autos. There are plenty of stable strains out there. Durrty Dragons are very stable and will pump out similar plants over and over. Diesel ryder is as well, which you did not disprove with your random ramblings. As far as size and quality? Well, those little plants you showed us were little because you must not understand autos
After hearing you call autos mediocre and small I think you should sit on this 10.2 oz HBD and spin. (finishing time removed until I check with the grower, but under three months from seed)
Now as for rude, you're the one who came in here swinging making bad claims and backing them up with nothing. You were the one who started trolling autos and being rude. Maybe something was just lost in translation, but it would seem that people think you are the troll :/
Anyway, please stick around and learn about autos. Your one or two experiences with a first generation auto or an industrial hemp don't really count. You could learn a whole lot, and there are a ton of autos to look into now.
After hearing you call autos mediocre and small I think you should sit on this 10.2 oz HBD and spin. (finishing time removed until I check with the grower, but under three months from seed)
Now as for rude, you're the one who came in here swinging making bad claims and backing them up with nothing. You were the one who started trolling autos and being rude. Maybe something was just lost in translation, but it would seem that people think you are the troll :/
Anyway, please stick around and learn about autos. Your one or two experiences with a first generation auto or an industrial hemp don't really count. You could learn a whole lot, and there are a ton of autos to look into now.
Mr. Jay: Himalaya Blue Diesel?
need to try that one.
Honestly, I've found the best way to get super consistent autos is to buy some seed, dial in for at least 3 generations, selecting for one or two traits at most, and then growing out the progency.
f1s, IMO are rarely 100% uniform. IMHO, there should be variation in the F1 generation, at least 2 phenotypes, showing the breeder didn't bottleneck too much.
f2 fgenerations almost always have more variability for me, as they're expressing traits from 2 separate parents more and you have more extreme outliers.
f3s for me are where its at to really lock things down and make sure you selected for the right traits.
If you're getting 100%consitency at the F1 generation, I'd be worried about vigor loss from bottlenecking/inbreeding.
need to try that one.
Honestly, I've found the best way to get super consistent autos is to buy some seed, dial in for at least 3 generations, selecting for one or two traits at most, and then growing out the progency.
f1s, IMO are rarely 100% uniform. IMHO, there should be variation in the F1 generation, at least 2 phenotypes, showing the breeder didn't bottleneck too much.
f2 fgenerations almost always have more variability for me, as they're expressing traits from 2 separate parents more and you have more extreme outliers.
f3s for me are where its at to really lock things down and make sure you selected for the right traits.
If you're getting 100%consitency at the F1 generation, I'd be worried about vigor loss from bottlenecking/inbreeding.
Five of my spyder seeds consistently dried up and died. Waste of money.
