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Monsanto Poised To Take Over the Weed Industry
- Thread starter Hottish
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Glysophate has replaced other herbicides that were vastly more damaging to the environment , some like diquat with an LD50 up to 15 times lower than roundup , and is far safer to apply for the people , like me , who were contracted to spray it.
The cases taken to court have involved farmers deliberately keeping seed back or buying illegally from grain processors , mostly dobbed in by their neighbours who play by the rules , as clearly stated in the contracts they sign on purchase from a Monsanto distributor.
That particular French study was so discredited by peer review it was rescinded by the authors.
But the anti gm sites don't mention that , scary tumorous rats get more converts than the actual facts.
The standard anti Monsanto post usually mentions Agent Orange , and they did produce 40% of it.
But nobody ever mentions the six other US companies that made the rest of it and are still in business.
And they are the best performing shares I ever brought . . .
only ones I have read about were folks that didn't want to pay their price, & bought excess grain to allegedly feed their livestock with, but planted & got caught at it.
JointOperation
Active member
I respect you.. and wat u have done.. for the community.. but u do this all the time dude.. u did it to me last time I posted something.. then a few hours later u replied with some BS woops maybe I should of looked it up first.. before telling someone else there an idiot...
ive seen u do this to others too. were u say there an idiot.. and then next thing u know.. ur editing ur post saying whoops I was wrong..
im sorry you thought I was attacking you.. but this isn't a joke.. go to Uruguay.. then tell me its not happening.. go talk to a few people who used to work for Monsanto .. and then tell me there plan isn't to take over the weed business.. they want to take over the entire agriculture industry.
and this is the way to do It!!!.. there not dumb . . they have a great plan.. but if people keep thinkin its a joke.. they will get away with it..
we need to stand up and SAY NO MORE.. and then try to change this shit.. don't let them take over the market.. and produce an inferior generic product.. that's only grown for weight..
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OGShaman
This is how GMOs... made by dozens of companies, not just Monsanto .... get a strong foothold in Grocery stores. Most of the brands in our stores are really owned by just a handful of companies.
Similar to how tons of our media is owned by just a few companies
Similar to how tons of our media is owned by just a few companies
You are a pro at making the worst things on earth sound so wonderful.
Monsanto, Chemtrails, GMO food, carcinogenic herbicide, all the evil you just spin around and make sound so awesome. I stopped paying attention to your posts a long time ago, people like you will bring forth the destruction of the planet and not think twice. These entities are enemies of humanity and should not be put into a positive light. As far as Im concerned y'all can fuck off
I think this whole fear of Monsanto taking over the "Weed Industry" is rather premature. First we need to figure out what the market will be like. Stories like those in the initial post are basing things on medical marijuana sales in California where dispensaries buy cheap and then sell at prices more like the black market (high prices based on the risk of getting busted). I've heard of ounces being bought for $200 and then sold in eights for $50 which is the same as $400 an ounce.
The question is will that price hold if it ever becomes legal nationwide? The likelihood is no. Then there is the question of whether people will be allowed to grow their own in a weed legal world? Which will have a big impact on supply and demand. If you are a grower now when the risk is higher then is it likely you'll stop growing when the risk is lower because it's legal? I think also people envision folks suddenly growing as many outdoor plants as they can when it's legal but there are more then just cops to worry about. There will still be people perfectly content with stealing other peoples work rather then growing their own.
The more likely scenario is that if marijuana ever becomes completely legal the big money will sit back and watch for a while. They'll let all the people with dollar signs in their eyes deal with setting up distribution and other logistics and then once all the kinks are worked out they'll work their way in and take over and push the little guys out. Assuming the prices stay profitable enough for them to do so.
The question is will that price hold if it ever becomes legal nationwide? The likelihood is no. Then there is the question of whether people will be allowed to grow their own in a weed legal world? Which will have a big impact on supply and demand. If you are a grower now when the risk is higher then is it likely you'll stop growing when the risk is lower because it's legal? I think also people envision folks suddenly growing as many outdoor plants as they can when it's legal but there are more then just cops to worry about. There will still be people perfectly content with stealing other peoples work rather then growing their own.
The more likely scenario is that if marijuana ever becomes completely legal the big money will sit back and watch for a while. They'll let all the people with dollar signs in their eyes deal with setting up distribution and other logistics and then once all the kinks are worked out they'll work their way in and take over and push the little guys out. Assuming the prices stay profitable enough for them to do so.
You are a pro at making the worst things on earth sound so wonderful.
Monsanto, Chemtrails, GMO food, carcinogenic herbicide, all the evil you just spin around and make sound so awesome. I stopped paying attention to your posts a long time ago, people like you will bring forth the destruction of the planet and not think twice. These entities are enemies of humanity and should not be put into a positive light. As far as Im concerned y'all can fuck off
agree with every word, he's a fucking idiot
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OGShaman
The saddest part of these kind of political debates is the fact that Americans love to bitch and complain about everything from Monsanto to Weather Control to the NSA is reading my email but if it means that I have do drive downtown to cast a vote to effect change? Well you better schedule that with my secretary.
I respect you.. and wat u have done.. for the community.. but u do this all the time dude.. u did it to me last time I posted something.. then a few hours later u replied with some BS woops maybe I should of looked it up first.. before telling someone else there an idiot...
ive seen u do this to others too. were u say there an idiot.. and then next thing u know.. ur editing ur post saying whoops I was wrong..
im sorry you thought I was attacking you.. but this isn't a joke.. go to Uruguay.. then tell me its not happening.. go talk to a few people who used to work for Monsanto .. and then tell me there plan isn't to take over the weed business.. they want to take over the entire agriculture industry.
and this is the way to do It!!!.. there not dumb . . they have a great plan.. but if people keep thinkin its a joke.. they will get away with it..
we need to stand up and SAY NO MORE.. and then try to change this shit.. don't let them take over the market.. and produce an inferior generic product.. that's only grown for weight..
I did not think you were attacking me, I do not think I called you an idiot.
If you actually think the so called news story was a legitimate news story then where was the reporters tag line? Have you ever seen a real news article where the reporter who wrote it was not even mentioned or listed?
The story was made up, there are several versions floating around the net, none have a reporters name attached to them, do you have have any reason why that is? I do, it is just made up.
Real reporters do not publish news stories without their names attached do they?
If Monsanto is selling weed in Uruguay I will fly you down to Uraguay to write up a news story with your name attached, but if Monsanto is not selling GMO weed in Uruguay will you fly me to Uruguay to write a story about how all this is just a bunch of lies and bullshit?
Find any real story about GMO Monsanto Cannabis being sold in Uruguay or anywhere else on planet earth, you know with a reporters name and the news agency he/she works for for and I will consider changing my ideas on GMO Cannabis, until then I just laugh at anyone that believes this thin of a so called "News story"
Please find the facts and get back to me, or like in every case up till now, just ignore the truth, project your fears as the truth and ignore reality. And don't forget to get back to me with any real proof this is happening in Uruguay or anyplace, until then I continue to say BS.....
Please find me a real news article.....
-SamS
JointOperation
Active member
im not sure.. im just saying.. you did this to me before.. and then looked it up and said u were rong..its not like im in Uruguay watching this go down.. but maybe they don't wana put names on things were companies like Monsanto could take that person out. or ruin there credibility.. I mean tons of reasons.. or ITS FAKE.. I totally understand your skepticisim.. I would be too.. but why else would Monsanto be looking into the medical marijuana business in the US like they are? ..
maybe this ? http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/1/the-real-danger-ofdrugdecriminalization.html
he listed his name.. if u have proof that this isn't happening please share.. we could really use the TRUTH..
this is from a different article.. and this is the reason I think Monsanto has a chance at destroying the entire small growers business.. because.. they will be manipulating.. COLOR. TASTE. SMELL.. POTENCY.. in ways that no breeder could EVER DO.. and once that happens.. all these NEW STRAINS aren't DICK compared to something that they can make any color.. and any potency.. and any terpene profile ..
honestly.. IF SOMEONE BESIDES MONSANTO was doing this.. it could be very benefitual to the community.. to be able to produce plants that have way more medicine in every part of theplant..
but hey .. I hope its not true.. but still .. looks like its going on thtere..and if I was as successful as you are.. I would love to spend the money to fly to Uruguay.. if I could find a way to get there.. id go do he research myself..
not trying to show any disrespect.. I really do respect everything you have done for the community.. and all the info you share..
have a good day.. and lets hope that tthis really is BS.. that would make a lot of people feel better. but if there doing it to OUR FOOD.. and our medicine.. and our black market drugs.. they will get to the medical marijuana..
heres another link to a story.. with a actual name attached to it .
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2014...monsanto-and-george-soros-by-william-engdahl/
and .. I would fly out to Uruguay if I could.. and do a report.. if its LIES.. Id report lies.. if it was the truth.. id report the truth. im not into spouting of misinformation or lies..
this subject caught my eyes.. and I thought to myself.. if I was MONSANTO.. and I have my foot int he door of every other billion dollar a year industry.. were else would I want to get into..
and that question alone.. brought me to Medical Marijuana..
believe me I want to know if Its lies also.. but it makes sense.. to start out of the US.. figure it out.. and then when it becomes legal in the US.. bam.. u have it figured out.. and you can TAKE OVER within a SINGLE YEAR.. once bud goes around.. that is as strong as BHO.. OR when bud goes around and u can get 60-90% yields with BHO.. THEY WIN..
Well, yeah, journalists publish a lot on the internet these days without byline. It's called "content creation." Just read an article by a journalist who is fed up with it. It's the new form of corporate PR. Kind of reporting primarily to push the (unmentioned) sponsor's point of view. Pay is much better than real journalism since real reporting is nearly dead.
Speaking of which, I also just read a glitzy puff piece about Monsanto's new line of "organic" veggies. Perfect tomatoes and lettuce with no GMOs. They are covering their bets and trying to change their image while continuing to pour the Roundup onto the corn crop.
I don't have any doubt Monsanto and other big food industry players are looking at Cannabis with greed in their eyes but I think it will be a long time before they do anything serious on it. The situation is still uncertain and there is zero demand for GMO weed.
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honestly.. IF SOMEONE BESIDES MONSANTO was doing this.. it could be very benefitual to the community.. to be able to produce plants that have way more medicine in every part of theplant..
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honestly... it wouldnt. It is not so much that something nasty is being inserted into the genes of whatever is being modified that is the problem - it is the very act of fucking with the organism fullstop, for any purpose, benign or malign, that causes the tumors etc in the organism consuming the gmo shit
Monscumto are not the issue, it would be wrong whoever did it. Stop fucking with nature in that way, end of
honestly.. IF SOMEONE BESIDES MONSANTO was doing this.. it could be very benefitual to the community.. to be able to produce plants that have way more medicine in every part of theplant..
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honestly... it wouldnt. It is not so much that something nasty is being inserted into the genes of whatever is being modified that is the problem - it is the very act of fucking with the organism fullstop, for any purpose, benign or malign, that causes the tumors etc in the organism consuming the gmo shit
Monscumto are not the issue, it would be wrong whoever did it. Stop fucking with nature in that way, end of
JT McNutty
New member
Because when I want a truthful and accurate news story, a religious fundamentalist "news" website is the first place I look. And for the people who think that they are avoiding the "evil gmo corporations" by eating organic, to be labeled organic they only need to follow rules involving "including soil and water quality, pest control, livestock practices, and rules for food additives." http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?contentidonly=true&contentid=organic-agriculture.html
The take away from this is actually learn what gmo foods are and the real affects they have.
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Only if people will support them by buying their products, I would not even if 60-90% yields, but that is me.
-SamS
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Looks like Uruguay will track the weed using gene markers , which is not GM at all but may have led to the confusion.
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2014/Uruguay-to-track-legal-pot-from-seeds-through-genetics-and-radio-frequency-tags/id-9ae286bd809b4ba3968bd72c7c5474bd
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2014/Uruguay-to-track-legal-pot-from-seeds-through-genetics-and-radio-frequency-tags/id-9ae286bd809b4ba3968bd72c7c5474bd
Old story, posted back in January. Monsanto is a dueche.
Correct,
Gene markers do not even have to be added like in the case of GMO's.
You can find and use naturally occurring markers, or add a few to the variety to be grown from another Cannabis clone that has the markers, and just use classical breeding techniques to breed them into the variety to be sold and made identifiable via the markers.
This is all normal breeding, not GMO.
-SamS
Gene markers do not even have to be added like in the case of GMO's.
You can find and use naturally occurring markers, or add a few to the variety to be grown from another Cannabis clone that has the markers, and just use classical breeding techniques to breed them into the variety to be sold and made identifiable via the markers.
This is all normal breeding, not GMO.
-SamS
I'm liking Uruguay's model less & less every time I read about it. That's some extreme authoritarian control bullshit right there.
