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Mold proof jungle strains
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K.C. Brains Strains
K.C. Brains Strains
We grew a couple of packs of K.C Brains in 2006. The strains were:
Northern Lights Special-
(indica/sativa)
The Northern Light Special is great for indoor growing, but can be grown outside as well. It is the strongest variety of the world. This strain is short and compact. A lucrative plant for indoor growing with a nice sweet taste.
Haze Special-
(sativa)
This variety was meant for indoor cultivation, but outside it can give good results as well. The ancestors of this specimen are a Nevils Haze, crossed with the KC 606. It is an early flowering plant wit a special Haze taste.
White Lady-(indica)
The ancestors of this plamt are a male K.C. 606 and a Real White Lady (which has top secret ancestors herself). This special indoor quality gives a very satisfactory harvest.
I will tell you, They got HUGE in 7 gallon grow buckets. They averaged 9-10 oz in 90-120 days from seed. We vegged them for 1 month from seed till we put them outside . If I remember correct, we put them out March 1rst. They were Big plants that could have been even bigger in a bigger pot.
As to the buds. They were a nightmare to trim. As to the stone it was pretty good, average at at best. Honestly, nothing to write home about, but damn did those plants yield.
K.C. Brains Strains
Yes I have actually, here is my story:
We grew a couple of packs of K.C Brains in 2006. The strains were:
Northern Lights Special-
(indica/sativa)
The Northern Light Special is great for indoor growing, but can be grown outside as well. It is the strongest variety of the world. This strain is short and compact. A lucrative plant for indoor growing with a nice sweet taste.
Haze Special-
(sativa)
This variety was meant for indoor cultivation, but outside it can give good results as well. The ancestors of this specimen are a Nevils Haze, crossed with the KC 606. It is an early flowering plant wit a special Haze taste.
White Lady-(indica)
The ancestors of this plamt are a male K.C. 606 and a Real White Lady (which has top secret ancestors herself). This special indoor quality gives a very satisfactory harvest.
I will tell you, They got HUGE in 7 gallon grow buckets. They averaged 9-10 oz in 90-120 days from seed. We vegged them for 1 month from seed till we put them outside . If I remember correct, we put them out March 1rst. They were Big plants that could have been even bigger in a bigger pot.
As to the buds. They were a nightmare to trim. As to the stone it was pretty good, average at at best. Honestly, nothing to write home about, but damn did those plants yield.
SilverBack n more
SilverBack n more
SilverBack n more
God bless that og grower. I read all his posts religiously, miss the old guy.
Great suggestion. I have used greencure and highly recomend it. Thing is I am looking to work with strains that will Adapt n THRIVE in my jungle conditions. The green cure is a good cure though.
Goin furthur
Goin furthur
I have come to the conclusion that its all speculation till you do it. I have seen plants with pedigrees that, because of the genetics theoretically ,should and would not be discussed in this thread. Yet they flourish in tropical rain forest. What do you think makes these plants adapt and buck the trend???? Is it sheer will to reproduce? Is it adaptation for Innovation?? Lets discuss.
Goin furthur
I have come to the conclusion that its all speculation till you do it. I have seen plants with pedigrees that, because of the genetics theoretically ,should and would not be discussed in this thread. Yet they flourish in tropical rain forest. What do you think makes these plants adapt and buck the trend???? Is it sheer will to reproduce? Is it adaptation for Innovation?? Lets discuss.
my experience with cannabis as well as other garden plants is that the variety will adapt over several generations from seeds, especially if given some selection for strong plants etc. Even without selection the 2nd generation plant grown from seed seems to perform better. i have a northern lightsxblueberry plant that grows quite unlike a squat indica now after about 10 years of growing outdoors from seed on the gulf coast.
i speculate that plants with even a small percentage of sativa will manifest more sativa characteristics in the right photoperiod/climate.... i have seen squat indica-dom plants grown in my late winter/spring season turn around and grow into sativa dom during the summer to fall season...
i speculate that plants with even a small percentage of sativa will manifest more sativa characteristics in the right photoperiod/climate.... i have seen squat indica-dom plants grown in my late winter/spring season turn around and grow into sativa dom during the summer to fall season...
Freedom Fighter
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jojo --- any of the plants characteristics can change -
as acclimation happens over the seasons, the plants feel out what works best for them in their new home. every factor is involved, rain, humidity, soil type, nutrients in soil, sunlight, day length, season length, everything.
if it's a hybrid, especially with a wide genetic background, almost every characteristic can or may, Change.
the plants will want to express their entire gene pool to see who does the best, basically.
However.... selection by hand is the biggest factor in a situation like this. ( i doubt you will be letting the plants open pollinate, and drop seed right on the forest floor
)
everytime you make a selection, you are choosing which genetic "branches" will be available for the next generation , and so on and so on....
so what you should do (lol, what i would do ), is use a strain that does extremely well for you, in all terms of growth/vigor/health etc etc ...... use pollen from these plants, on to your best girls who have incredible buds/high/aroma/taste/MoldResistance
the resulting F1 will be a gene pool where:
you have the necessary genetics for the plants to thrive
you have the necessary genetics for your specific wants/needs (potency, mold resistance etc etc)
at this point, its just a matter of selection for the next few years .... 3 years you may notice a real difference, 7 years you will have almost exactly what you're lookin for, and in 10 years you will have your prize plants.
it's all about selection.
the only thing you have to avoid is In Breeding... you dont want your whole project to go stale and loose its vigor.
for me - it's always worth 'sacrificing' the absolute best plant(s) for a seed crop. you may be giving up the best smoke of the season, but next year you will have Alot more plants with the characteristics of your prize parent plants.
/done rambling
peace, send me a pm jojo
-FF
as acclimation happens over the seasons, the plants feel out what works best for them in their new home. every factor is involved, rain, humidity, soil type, nutrients in soil, sunlight, day length, season length, everything.
if it's a hybrid, especially with a wide genetic background, almost every characteristic can or may, Change.
the plants will want to express their entire gene pool to see who does the best, basically.
However.... selection by hand is the biggest factor in a situation like this. ( i doubt you will be letting the plants open pollinate, and drop seed right on the forest floor
)everytime you make a selection, you are choosing which genetic "branches" will be available for the next generation , and so on and so on....
so what you should do (lol, what i would do
), is use a strain that does extremely well for you, in all terms of growth/vigor/health etc etc ...... use pollen from these plants, on to your best girls who have incredible buds/high/aroma/taste/MoldResistancethe resulting F1 will be a gene pool where:
you have the necessary genetics for the plants to thrive
you have the necessary genetics for your specific wants/needs (potency, mold resistance etc etc)
at this point, its just a matter of selection for the next few years .... 3 years you may notice a real difference, 7 years you will have almost exactly what you're lookin for, and in 10 years you will have your prize plants.
it's all about selection.
the only thing you have to avoid is In Breeding... you dont want your whole project to go stale and loose its vigor.
for me - it's always worth 'sacrificing' the absolute best plant(s) for a seed crop. you may be giving up the best smoke of the season, but next year you will have Alot more plants with the characteristics of your prize parent plants.
/done rambling
peace, send me a pm jojo
-FF
coaxing sativa
coaxing sativa
well put, ff. jojo, i can only speak from experience, and i have found that plants from a diverse hybrid background: nl/bb, my hawaiian strain, hawaiian, flo, etc. look like different plants grown outside during the summer than they do grown indoors and/or during the winter/spring outdoor season.
dj short talks about coaxing sativa characteristics in his book by manipulating photoperiod and angle of light indoors to simulate the conditions of the tropics - thus coaxing sativa characteristics out of his hybrid plants. according to him this can be done within one generation, and my experience backs up that theory: a cutting from a seemingly indica-dom squat plant grown indoors under 18/6 and 12/12 light schedules can turn into a thin-leaved, spear-budded sativa-dom plant outdoors during the summer here. also, the cannabinoid profile will change as well. i'm not saying it's going happen all the time with anyplant that has say 10% percent sativa or something, but from my experience - if you put a plant outdoors during the long season in the tropics it will try to become a tropical plant. the hawaiian strain i have seems to have a high-percentage of what i would call a tropical indica: a stout chunky, yet longer flowering and more open flowered, greasy, deep pine and tropical fruit smelling plant. i am imagining that this pneno is form an early afghani from the 70's that has been on the islands for awhile and transformed it's growth characteristics into something that is unique and tropically inclined. also, these phenos seem to have some of the largest calyxes i've ever seen.
of course freedom fighter, you are really right when you talk about selection over multiple generations. that is where the time taken to get to know a strain really shows it's benefit.
i hope this helps clarify. sorry if i was too long-winded.
coaxing sativa
well put, ff. jojo, i can only speak from experience, and i have found that plants from a diverse hybrid background: nl/bb, my hawaiian strain, hawaiian, flo, etc. look like different plants grown outside during the summer than they do grown indoors and/or during the winter/spring outdoor season.
dj short talks about coaxing sativa characteristics in his book by manipulating photoperiod and angle of light indoors to simulate the conditions of the tropics - thus coaxing sativa characteristics out of his hybrid plants. according to him this can be done within one generation, and my experience backs up that theory: a cutting from a seemingly indica-dom squat plant grown indoors under 18/6 and 12/12 light schedules can turn into a thin-leaved, spear-budded sativa-dom plant outdoors during the summer here. also, the cannabinoid profile will change as well. i'm not saying it's going happen all the time with anyplant that has say 10% percent sativa or something, but from my experience - if you put a plant outdoors during the long season in the tropics it will try to become a tropical plant. the hawaiian strain i have seems to have a high-percentage of what i would call a tropical indica: a stout chunky, yet longer flowering and more open flowered, greasy, deep pine and tropical fruit smelling plant. i am imagining that this pneno is form an early afghani from the 70's that has been on the islands for awhile and transformed it's growth characteristics into something that is unique and tropically inclined. also, these phenos seem to have some of the largest calyxes i've ever seen.
of course freedom fighter, you are really right when you talk about selection over multiple generations. that is where the time taken to get to know a strain really shows it's benefit.
i hope this helps clarify. sorry if i was too long-winded.
hI everyone, long time no see Going furthur with this subject as alot of people are growing in less than ideal situations. I have been in the lab for the last 2 yrs with Mold proof genetics. I say mold proof, cause its true. I have subjected strains to the most abusive, mold inducing situations imaginable. Some shined, and most failed.
Lets start with my WINNERS. WINNING,lol In no particular order are :
NL x Blueberry x Hawaiian
NorthernLights is a oldschool strain. Originally developed in the pacific northwest. The climate there is rainy and wet, with sporadic lengths of sun at best. It was developed for low light , overcast conditions. My exp with NL is that the better specimens don't need blazing, direct light to develop correctly. They kinda like the shade. Not true for all cultivars, but most in my exp. The branches and nodes develop like a plant grown in full sun. The other consistent trait with NL is the LOw odor. Love that That mean less worries about detection and less stress about the smell
The head is legendary So is the yield.
In all my exp growing NL i have NEVER had a mold issue.
Blueberry is legendary. I wont waste bandwith repeating all the great traits of BlueBerry. All I know is in the jungle, Blueberry thrives
Hawaiian will mold or it wont. period. It has to do with the less than stellar breeding practices of most Hawaiian growers over the years. Hawaii is a great spot for the plant itself, but my exp has found the growers are just that, GROWERS. BREEDING is pollen chuckers at best..There are good and even Great breeders in Hawaii, but few and far in between.
The combo of these 3 great plants has proven to be a winner.
Pics soon to follow.
The combo of this has proven to be worthy.
Going furthur with this subject as alot of people are growing in less than ideal situations. I have been in the lab for the last 2 yrs with Mold proof genetics. I say mold proof, cause its true. I have subjected strains to the most abusive, mold inducing situations imaginable. Some shined, and most failed.Lets start with my WINNERS. WINNING,lol In no particular order are :
NL x Blueberry x Hawaiian
NorthernLights is a oldschool strain. Originally developed in the pacific northwest. The climate there is rainy and wet, with sporadic lengths of sun at best. It was developed for low light , overcast conditions. My exp with NL is that the better specimens don't need blazing, direct light to develop correctly. They kinda like the shade. Not true for all cultivars, but most in my exp. The branches and nodes develop like a plant grown in full sun. The other consistent trait with NL is the LOw odor. Love that
That mean less worries about detection and less stress about the smell The head is legendary
So is the yield.In all my exp growing NL i have NEVER had a mold issue.
Blueberry is legendary. I wont waste bandwith repeating all the great traits of BlueBerry. All I know is in the jungle, Blueberry thrives
Hawaiian will mold or it wont. period. It has to do with the less than stellar breeding practices of most Hawaiian growers over the years. Hawaii is a great spot for the plant itself, but my exp has found the growers are just that, GROWERS. BREEDING is pollen chuckers at best..There are good and even Great breeders in Hawaii, but few and far in between.
The combo of these 3 great plants has proven to be a winner.
Pics soon to follow.
The combo of this has proven to be worthy.
How about Erdbei? It's grown in Holland where they have cold, wet autumns and is bred to be mold resistant. It's a hybrid indica/sativa so in your area it should start blooming really quick and finish quite small to help avoid detection?
I'm going to be growing it in western Oregon this year to see if can help with the mold problems we have in the rainforest here. It's tough getting a crop in due to the mold most years.
I'm going to be growing it in western Oregon this year to see if can help with the mold problems we have in the rainforest here. It's tough getting a crop in due to the mold most years.
After months of reserch
After months of reserch
NL x Blueberry x Hawaiian
NorthernLights is a oldschool strain. Originally developed in the pacific northwest. The climate there is rainy and wet, with sporadic lengths of sun at best. It was developed for low light , overcast conditions. My exp with NL is that the better specimens don't need blazing, direct light to develop correctly. They kinda like the shade. Not true for all cultivars, but most in my exp. The branches and nodes develop like a plant grown in full sun. The other consistent trait with NL is the LOw odor. Love that That mean less worries about detection and less stress about the smell
The head is legendary So is the yield.
In all my exp growing NL i have NEVER had a mold issue.
Blueberry is legendary. I wont waste bandwith repeating all the great traits of BlueBerry. All I know is in the jungle, Blueberry thrives
Hawaiian will mold or it wont. period. It has to do with the less than stellar breeding practices of most Hawaiian growers over the years. Hawaii is a great spot for the plant itself, but my exp has found the growers are just that, GROWERS. BREEDING is pollen chuckers at best..There are good and even Great breeders in Hawaii, but few and far in between.
The combo of these 3 great plants has proven to be a winner.
Pics soon to follow.
The combo of this has proven to be worthy.
After months of reserch
NL x Blueberry x Hawaiian
NorthernLights is a oldschool strain. Originally developed in the pacific northwest. The climate there is rainy and wet, with sporadic lengths of sun at best. It was developed for low light , overcast conditions. My exp with NL is that the better specimens don't need blazing, direct light to develop correctly. They kinda like the shade. Not true for all cultivars, but most in my exp. The branches and nodes develop like a plant grown in full sun. The other consistent trait with NL is the LOw odor. Love that That mean less worries about detection and less stress about the smell
The head is legendary So is the yield.
In all my exp growing NL i have NEVER had a mold issue.
Blueberry is legendary. I wont waste bandwith repeating all the great traits of BlueBerry. All I know is in the jungle, Blueberry thrives
Hawaiian will mold or it wont. period. It has to do with the less than stellar breeding practices of most Hawaiian growers over the years. Hawaii is a great spot for the plant itself, but my exp has found the growers are just that, GROWERS. BREEDING is pollen chuckers at best..There are good and even Great breeders in Hawaii, but few and far in between.
The combo of these 3 great plants has proven to be a winner.
Pics soon to follow.
The combo of this has proven to be worthy.
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Try some Ace gear. Bangi Haze was partially bred in wet outdoor climates. May still be too dense for this amount of rain. Also Ace Old Timer Haze and Haze x Thai come to mind. Should be new stock available soon. Good luck!
Im working with Papua New Guinea Gold, plus I have mulimbimby madness and neville's haze. I have a couple of nepalese crosses, got some columbian gold and even a hawaiian or two.
I am testing out the Og's next. Im gonna grow blue dream cuttings,even gonna try green crack. Gonna try both ChemD and Chem4. this should be interesting :0
I am testing out the Og's next. Im gonna grow blue dream cuttings,even gonna try green crack. Gonna try both ChemD and Chem4. this should be interesting :0
Mr. Nice should have it, but it's not the cheapest out there. I can't remember, but I think it's a sibling/cousin of SSH. I'm running my grow in a clearing in the jungle and I'm trying to figure out what to pick up for several seasons. Leaning toward Sam's Skunk x Haze, although it's so hard to choose with all of Ace and CBG's offerings.
Brilliant thread by the way.
Brilliant thread by the way.
