Molasses ~ When & Why ?

[keico]

Another question on molasses

Another question on molasses

After reading this thread on molasses, I am convinced that I will definitely be using it for my plants.

I am on week three of flowering my three ladies (bagseed)

My question is when I was at the store I saw "grandmas" and this one.

I bought the other and would like opinions on if this is good for my three girls

 

[delerious]

Here's a pic of what I use. It's Unsulphured.

 

[rave420]

i have done my current grow, and i grew using soil organics.
I used nothing but guano, earthworm castings and molasses, and i ended up with FAT buds.
I fed ewc guano molasses tea every 3rd or so watering, and plain water with molasses in between feedings. It worked out awesome, looking back i think it might have been a bit much with the guano teas. But i tell you from experience, the molasses is awesome stuff.
Seaweed during veg and early flowering is also HIGHLY recommended. i feel like my plants have more bud sites than they would usually have, and they did stretch A LOT MORE. I don't know what it is with people saying "use seaweed to stop stretch". I treated my plants with seaweed during veg and flower, using both Foilar feed and Soil application, and my god did it make them grow. The only plant i did't feed seaweed stayed 2/3rds of the height of the other plant, and the branches are not as developed.

Either way, use molasses if you can, there's no way you can hurt your plants with molasses. I even spray that stuff as foilar spray on the plants, while my room is a sticky mess, the plants absorb it. Kind of cool actually. I use a "squirt" per milkjug. A "squirt" is simply a "blob" of molasses, just start pouring it, and when the first big blob comes out stop pouring and turn the bottle to prevent the rest from running and sticking on the bottle . Must be something like a teaspoon per gallon. I include it EVERY watering.

Peace.

keico, this is the same stuff i use, there is nothing better out there. It will work just fine! You get my thumbs up, it's good shit

 

[spyvsspy]

I wonder how much money us Canna growers have put in Granny's old coin jar over the years?
I know I have bought enough of her molasses to get her a new Sunday bonnet and a pair of orthopedic slippers.

 

[southpaw]

I wonder how much money us Canna growers have put in Granny's old coin jar over the years?
I know I have bought enough of her molasses to get her a new Sunday bonnet and a pair of orthopedic slippers.

Nice... I've made a sizable contribution to the down payment on her Lark.

 

[TheBudFather]

Try it you'll like it.





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I thought it HAD to be 'Organic Blackstrap Unsulphured Molasses' this stuff isnt blackstrap.... i think to become blackstrap molasses it needs to be boiled and cooled over 10 times... im not sure what this does but i think it irradicates any unwanted additives in the molasses...... i use Meridan Organic unsulphured blackstrap molasses.... and its working wonders.... i get it from ebay for £8 a jar 740g. I just add 2 heaped table spoons into a 15L reservoir.... before i add it to the reservoir, I disolve it in a jug of warm water. then pour it into my feed.. BioBizz Grow-Bloom and Maxicrop...with epsomsalts added avery now n then. my plants love this stuff... simple easy and effective.... %100 Organic baby!

here is 1 of my ladies...! hope you like her... She is a Bubblegum plant originally used as a mother but she has done her job now, so Ive flowerd her... she has 2 weeks left.....

 

[TheBudFather]

Will any molassis work in case I cant find blackstrap, or is that a popular brand that most if not all grocery stores carry?

Ive checked everywhere as far as Winn Dixie, publix and food lion..Grandmas is it..shoutld we add more of the grandmas or still use till I find Black strap

Here's a pic of what I use. It's Unsulphured.

this is what i Use... Perfect stuff... http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/?_nkw=...3&_odkw=organic+blackstrap+molasses&_osacat=0

 

[SkareCrow]

sugars (carbs) + iron + calci = win

I used to feed molasses every watering 1 tbl spoon per gallon and they loved it

 

[magiccannabus]

Can you "Over" do it with the Molasses ?

Is there such a thing as Molasses Burn ?

I'm doing an organic coir/soil/perlite mix, and I run relatively small pots for the plant size(8 inch round pots, 8 inches deep), so my feeding requirements are more frequent, but less intense. That's the beauty of organics. You're not directly feeding the plants, you feed the fungus and the bacteria, and they basically crap out pure perfect plant food as a waste product. This food network in a high oxygen, high drainage environment like my soil mix can receive a lot of molasses without going anaerobic. Some mixes have less drainage, more retention, so you have to be more careful. Just use intuition here, imagine how gummy your soil will get when combined with lots of molasses. It may help you get a feel for what is too much.

I use 1-3 tablespoons per day typically, but sometimes twice or three times that. I put that much in a 1.5 liter bottle and mix it with dechlorinated tap water. I also brew it into my compost tea. I go through a lot of molasses, and so far, nothing negative has come of it. I can definitely see positives though. They just seem so much happier, especially in an organic grow.

 

[growMEDS]

I may give this a try. Great info.

 

[Bodhi Roach]

I just tried molasses for the 1st time yesterday on some kids that moved into beer cups last week, they were struggling a little so I hit them with a mixture of superthrive, molasses and a 300ppm nute mix, wow they sure look great today, some of them have a few extra nodes now and full sets of leaves. How long does it usually take for you to go from jiffy with roots, to a 6" plant with 5-6 nodes?


opinions please,

Im using GH nutes, 2 feeds/flush/2 feeds
from what i have read, its good to use the BS molasses every feed, but what about the straight water flush? I put grozyme in the straight water, will Molasses be ok as well?

Thanks

Oh, how hard do most of you pound your plants with ferts?
I understand it is strain related and style related, but do any of you go beyond 1500ppm?

and do any of you feed 3x then flush?



Thanks

 

[Blue Dot]

This question was asked early on, and didn't receive a direct answer: Can one use molasses with a "chemical" (inorganic) fertilizer program, and reap the same benefits?

A very prominent figure in the hort field told me that for soilless containerized plants that were experiencing the symptoms of chem nute build up over time without an adeqaute means to flush the use of molassess caused a growth in population of benefical bacteria that cut his ppms in the rootzone IN HALF.

In other words, the addition of molasses acted like a flush because the bacteria (aided by the molasses) were eating the chem nutes to survive and reproduce as well as eating the sugars in the molasses.

Maybe the molassess was also chelating a lot of the chem nutes and the ppm meter couldn't read those chelated ntues as an EC because the chelation made them non-ionic.

 

[Gold123]

My last grow I used A.N. Sweet Leaf throughout the whole grow it has a long list of ingredients. That grow was better than my previous ones without sugars. I ran out toward the end of this grow and changed to Canna Boost. I can't believe I've been wasting all that money when I could have gone down to the grocery for Grandma's BS molasses. I noticed a real difference with sugars,taste,size, density of bud. next grow I'll experiment with molasses on some and do a comparison. Let you know how it comes out.

 

[stoneypenguin]

I read somewhere that plants arnt able to absorb complex carbohydrates like sugar through their roots system. Not sure if this is true or not though.

I have some blackstrap molasses instead of sweet and have added it to a few of my feedings, not sure what impact it really has though other than making my water a lot darker.

 

[magiccannabus]

Grandma's is good, but it is not black strap. Get Brer Rabbit brand, which is made by the same company, and is blackstrap.

 

[rave420]

you don't put the molasses into the soil to feed the sugars to the plant. That is a misconception.

The sugar is used by MICROBES in the soil, they feed of it and other organic matter in the soil, and create a form of nutrients that is INSTANTLY available to plants. Don't feed the plant, feed the soil. This works AMAZING if you premix Kelp Meal, Bat guano and bone meal into the soil. The soil is a living thing, just like the plants are. The sugars help the soil (more precise, the microbes in the soil) to prepare nutrients, so that the plant can uptake it more rapidly.

Also, with all that sugar available, the fungi in the soil can thrive. There are some beneficial fungi that essentially act as a "root system relay" for the plants. They work in symbiosis with each other, it's quite the beautiful thing actually.

 

[growMEDS]

I saw Grandma's when I went shopping and it was like $3 so I picked it up.
They didn't have any blackstrap though.

 

[dirkdaddy]

you guys gotta hit up those weird health food centric stores in your area to find blackstrap. if you live in a decent sized city I promise there is some new age grocery store stocked with vitamins, herbs, and organic shit and they will have blackstrap for sure. i've taken for granted using it but it seriously makes everything better. better taste, better yield, its cheap as shit, supplements cal/mag/K (if you have blackstrap). hell its sticky but at least it cleans up easy.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Dry molasses is a viable alternative. It runs about $20.00 for 50 lbs. at a feed store.

It's sure easier to sweep up dry molasses than mopping up liquid molasses. To say the least.

 

[CaptainStoner]

Hey budfather, meridian blackstrap, try holland & barrett.