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Moe makes Trash into Stash in Real Time...(iso)

thekingofNY

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looking good man, the freezer worked awesome btw...
Thanks again.

brilliant idea with the cheap metal strainer to hold the coffee filter...
 

MoeBudz^420

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All done...

All done...

Thanx guys, I aim to please...

Well, we wrapped 'er up about 10 mins ago, yield was smaller than with airbuds. But it was mostly fans and some sugar trim after all - quality is good. .8 yielded - will grease many papers and/or make many "black pearls"...

IMO, oil goes way further than hash at 4 small joints/gram for good hash...Gram of good oil easily greases 50 papers or will make just as many "black pearls".

Moe likes his iso...Here's the finish... :rasta:

Peace






 

MoeBudz^420

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Consistency

Consistency

Hey, thought I'd post a couple pics of the consistency, perfect in my opinion...not black, or runny.

Peace






Edit: Pinshot:

 
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MoeBudz^420

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another batch...

another batch...

Well, here I am again with some more pics from a batch I did last nite. Did not document the whole deal, it has been posted enough now... just the finish, and testers I ingested at 2:20 this aft. 3 "black pearls" - first 45 mins = strong high. next 30-45 mins = avg. high. I can still feel some remnants now, at 4:04 PM.

I'm satisfied yet again... here's the pics. :rasta:

Peace








 

Maj.PotHead

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when the ISO quick wash turns black its because its been in contact with the alcohol to long of a period contact for any longer then 120 seconds will turn it black and double straining it causes this blackness. just a friendly FYI















heres some i made few yrs back


my 1st batch turned out black from 2nd on turned out golden brown, now i dont even waste my time with that i use a screen and shake the trim over a mirror




and havent looked back in ISO direction since :)
 
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MoeBudz^420

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Well, that does not fly, as these were washed for 1 min exactly. Timer used. Not flaming by any means, just defending my tried and proven process. I agree, if you're going to powder form, making kief is faster. I like my oil to be oil, not powder, real thick and sticky but not runny at all. I can bend my heavy gauge copperwire tool getting it out of the vial, it's real stiff and stretchy.

Peace

Edit: how does straining it quickly thru a seive first cause blackness? it is way faster than just letting it sit in the coffee filter - that causes more clorophyll to be extracted. Does not make sense...

I repeat, it is not black, looks like that 'cus light does not penetrate the thick mass of resin. Look at the vial where it is thinner...Gold as can be. after 4 years on OG, I think I know about the 1 min wash...

Yah, kief is good, but 4 j's per G at most. Oil goes way farther, easily doing 50 papers or bongs per G...

thanx anyways tho... :rasta:

Edit2: here's the proof, still have 3 jars to evap. Yours is greener than mine...oops that's ninja's...sorry.




Edit3: see the stuff on the bottom? By straining & jarring it beforehand, this settles and sticks to the jar. Does not wind up in the oil. Under the microscope, it is mostly stalks, looks like brown sand. I guarantee that 3 bonghits like pictured above will sit u down for a good long while... :bongsmi:
 
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Oilmeister

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Hi Moe regarding ISO

Hi Moe regarding ISO

Hi Moe, You will have an easier time getting ISO if you go to one of the many Hydroponic shops that are all over. You can buy it there in 20 liter pails for about a hundred bucks, this is ever so much cheaper than buying from drugstores which can be very heaty. Good Luck, happy extracting.
 

MoeBudz^420

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Thanx, I wish there was a hydro shop here, none closer than 1-2 hours drive, and I walk wherever I go...

Been trying to track down gallons too, but no luck. I guess I'm stuck with 500ml bottles for 2.75-3.75, depending on the drugstore...

Doesn't really matter much now, all I have left to do is evap 3 remaining prewashed jarfulls like the one pictured above. Then it's pretty much all done until next time, unless I can score some more trim... :rasta:

Peace
 
G

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What is an optimal temp to cook at? How 'bout relevence of alcohol percentage? I've had 4 of 4 votes of approval on my shit, but want to dial in the best I can.
 

MoeBudz^420

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I definitely recommend using a double boiler - just a pot of water ,set the pyrex on top. Make sure there is a little space for steam to escape. This way there is absolutely no chance of getting it too hot and cooking the THC. Temps will not exceed 100C, the boiling point of water.

I am unsure of the exact temp that THC vapes at, but I think it's in the ballpark around 200 and change in C...it can be found in the cooking & edibles section most likely..

Peace
 

drmota

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good job moe, i to use trash for hash and although sometimes it is green and dark it is still a far cry better than what i started with. i like to make mine a little harder i find by cooking smaller batches i can scrape it and it will roll into nice hard balls. i keep them in an airtight and in the freezer for those dry times. last run i got around close to 1/2 oz from between a 1/4 and a 1/2 lb of stright junk not to shabby. i give out to some of my 'hardcore stoner' friends and they always ask for more.
 

MoeBudz^420

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Thanx, in all my years, all oil I've seen/made has been this thick & tarry type, either golden, reddish or green. In vials, picked out to use with a small flat tool. All looked dark in the vial, but spread to their proper colour.

Was usually always smoked on papers, using whatever fill sticks to the oil, then rolled. "Oilers" - they burn fast, but 2-3 reg. papers = flyin'. Ashbongs too. Never heard of oil rolled into balls like hash with your fingers until hitting the forums (OG).

In the way I have been doing it, I just tip the pan back/forth as it finishes, and scrape it once it no longer flows when the still hot dish is tipped to vertical. By the time it's scraped onto the razor, and scraped off that with a pin, it's hardening up. Not completely, but to that stretchy caramel texture.

I know a faster rinse (a few seconds) will get a lighter end product, but does it get all the goodies out?

I suppose a 15 second wash of all trim first for ultimate quality, then a one minute to get what's left would work good... but that also uses pretty much 2x more iso, and evap time. Well, I just may try that if I can get some more material - all mine has been used...

I still have the 3 jars of infused iso - I just might try cooking it totally crispy when I get a chance to evap it. But I do like it caramel-texture, that's what I'm used to...

Will post it w/ it happens...:rasta:

Peace
 

MoeBudz^420

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Thanx, glad you liked it. Final evap has commenced, got all 3 jars into a larger pyrex. Hopefully the evap time will be cut down a bit, as there is more surface area. Have not taken any pics, as the process has been posted lots already. Will take pics of the finish tho...

I was considering going to crispy this time, but I really don't want to leave it sitting for days totally dry out... I'll probably stick to the stretchy caramel consistency I know and love. Makes me good and happy & goes far - that's all that matters to me. Stay tuned for the results in 3-4 hours... :rasta:

There is one thing that I still have not found out tho...

Just how much bud can be quick washed with say 1 500 ml bottle of 99% before the solution is saturated, and will extract no more? I just do 1 bottle per 500 ml jar of material x 1 minute usually...Could I do 2-3 jars per bottle without leaving any goodies behind?

Anything for more efficiency, and less waiting. I'd much rather wash 3 jars with 500 ml than 1500 ml, as long as it gets all the goodies out. Any guru's know the best ratio of iso to bud/trimmings to use?

ie) 500 ml for 1/2 oz, 1 oz, 2oz, etc...

Peace
 

jdigga

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hell yeah man ash bowls are the way to to it i have never made oil with iso mostly bho
but man thanks for the info i will make a post of my bho method soon as i get a nice bag of sugar leaves off my hommie.
but yeah if you want a NICE CLEAN HIT OF OIL USE ASH BOWLS dont waste it on top of a bowl of herb.
 
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