MM X 78Thia was never released by Nevil
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Stoneguru
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Aren't you forgetting someone ese?
None of those 3 have the haze Trich stem like sexy old Mexi.
amoril
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Maybe it's just me, but I'd think at the f3 and beyond, it's basically Hempys Haze, derived from Nevilles Haze.
2 generations of breeding is enough to move the genetic pool, and they've been selected for traits you find desirable / acclimatized to your grow environment. Both breeding selections and epigenetic changes can make your F3s their own thing
Talkin Haze .
I learnt from the folks in the Netherlands they change their nutes as flowering progresses .
They mix their own nutes .
Early more cal mag and N . Then later , ween off the cal mag / N and progressively bias more to PK .
Anybody else use that tech ?
I learnt from the folks in the Netherlands they change their nutes as flowering progresses .
They mix their own nutes .
Early more cal mag and N . Then later , ween off the cal mag / N and progressively bias more to PK .
Anybody else use that tech ?
@hempy
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So the O Haze that came to Holland in 1984 and ended up at F10s or over 25 or more years ago according to Sam going by that logic then O Haze is no O longer Haze then ?
What and how I worked my Nevil's Haze is irrelevant to this conversation.
amoril
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I'd say yes. Just as Tom Hills Haze is, well, Tom Hills Haze. I have no way of knowing if all the haze is f10 and beyond
Also, you're literally why we're talking about the filial generation of your Hempys Haze
If you don't want us talking about it, why bring it up? It seems like you wanted to brag, but don't like getting others thoughts. Call it nevilles Haze if you want to, it's your Haze now, call it whatever you want.
I think us referring to it as Hempys Haze is more objectively accurate. I'm not likely to find any of your f3 hempy Haze plants in my f1 nevilles Haze seed, so there is a difference.
ninox33
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I agree, @Cvh shut it down immediately, and who ever starts these threads that cause such controversy be given a stern warning.
Perhaps, because Hempy the sole guardian of exotic fabled strains should be allowed special privileges; such as he can start threads and only he can reply.
Stoneguru
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This is a great assessment and one you could feel good about @HEMPY.
Last night I was thinking this exactly. I am looking at all these Nevil Haze and there is a lot of diversity.
While some may be similar No plant is the same and no combination would be the same either
some may select effect or potency, flavor or wild fenotrigo.
Each person's respective hierarchy of preference will shape the line
Some doors will open and others close. Tom's OP approach may be an acception because he is playing against our bottleneck of preferences.
All combinations. Even the most unlikely ones in a pool is that hunting 100 is the norm across our population.
The OP of the Seed and OP of the community results in maximum diversity and unique gems from diverse hunts.
The resulting recombination of all the efforts could slingshot o'haze back to a restored form or even better.
F3 would be Hempy's haze. Different people, different selection process from a very diverse set of genetics.
Stoneguru
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I don't think you're referring to me. I am elegant.
Not gonna touch that can of worms .
ninox33
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Botany is an aspect of Ecology, in my past I was known as a vertebrate ecologist, and botany is crucial to studying animals.
I don’t breed, that takes 1000s of plants I’m a pollen chucker like you.
Pistachio is part of my giggle garden, a freebie that ended up with a few other giggle plants; kushes, indicas etc that I pop for fun.
Never had a hermie in ANY seed I’ve grown, AND I rarely grow a female without seeds. A little pollen chucking ensures that.
Controversial in threads here, but my vision is a female who knows there’s males about cause she got fertilised will focus on female flowers rather than male hermaphroditism. That’s my contribution to bro science, and it’s worked for me for over 30 years.
Again you’ve posted for posterity a post that shows how you deduce and interpret. What’s really funny is that you’re not aware and carry on oblivious.
There’s a term for that see attached from my research.
Dunning-Kruger effect | Definition, Examples, & Facts | Britannica
Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of...
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ninox33
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That seems fair…….
Wuachuma
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For sativa's in general,
I push N, Ca, Mg, and Si anytime there's going to be a growth spurt, so I'm really pushing these a few days before I expect them to stretch when transitioning to flower.
I push K when there's heat, intense light/weather, etc.
P, I push a week or so after the stretch of early flowering.
Once pistils have formed in concentration and not just a pistil here, a pistil there, I went down the N and all the cations. I like a full fade about 2-3 weeks before chop. Letting the plant cannibalize itself for the 2nd half of flowering really helps increase flavors and smoothness to the smoke.
This is why I only do minimal deleafing. My philosophy is I'm spending these resources to get the plant to grow all these leaves - taking those leaves off means I'm spending more to feed the plant plant has to do more with less. Instead, I let the plant use the food to make leaves, then cut the food off halfway into flower and let the leaves feed the plant for the last weeks of its life. That could be 4 weeks for an 8 weeker or 8 weeks for a ~20 weeker
We cannot read everything on the forum here. So I'm not going to spend my time reading back 18 pages to see who, what, said what, started what,...etc
So, can you confirm that you want your thread closed?
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