Diary 🌟 Mindblower… from Maha

[MAHA KALA]

hehehehehehehhe

metalshop or not? hands up!

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I have a few with something metallic about them. I never took metal shop so I have a hard time knowing exactly what scent I am looking for. Same with frankincense. I guess I should have went to church.

 

[MAHA KALA]

When I think about how a particular strain compares to a psychedelic. I think of that feeling right after you notice the psychedelic has changed my perception. I am not really tripping yet. But I am aware my senses are heightened. Turned on as they say. I have experience some visual distortion and gone on some mild mental trips on good herb. Out of 32 thh and OH females I saved around 10 or so that have some of this effect. I need to smoke a bunch more to really decifer how I feel about each particular plant. I will be growing many more hazes and NLD types looking to improve on what I have already. I do not feel I hit a home run yet. I did find some very good smoke with some electric, trippy, distorting, caffinated and racy type highs. All similar in a lot of ways but also each with their own personality.

I was thinking about my opinions comparing the THH and OH. I am going to have to smoke a few and really think about it. They have more in common that they do different from each other. The OH is more spicy and less refined. But very delicious and complex. The THH has more of something sweet. I think I slightly prefer it to the OH flavor. The OH had more phenos that were almost great than the THH. But the seeds I ran were both reproductions so I might find different results when I grow toms seeds. As for the buzz. Also similar. I think the THH fucks me up a little more than the OH. Not saying the OH is weak. It gets me super high. Probably better to work on the OH than the THH, less confusion. Both are some of my favorites I have grown so far. And I will grow the next round better now that I am more familiar with them.

Growing these has at least temporarily wrecked my desire to grow anything of lesser quality.

it takes a lot of time, I used to grow each cut more than once and in different environment... back in the days old timer haze also seemed to me similar to toms haze but after some time no... they are different.

also bandaid haze, when I smoked it first time, seemed to me similar to toms haze, but now after some years I say they are very different.

yes, that reproduction seems quite unfortunate, I heard about stony effect too... I got some stony plants in toms haze, those red ones... but citric green pheno, it is where it is...

 

[MAHA KALA]

the OHaze started out extremely sweet for a long time and then after harvest and cure it turned into a “woody and leather” flavor and aroma…

I disagree with you both. but in civilized way, of course heheheeh

I agree with Tom on woody lumbo haze. or with Dubi, he describes difference of lumbos vs. thai exactly how I feel it, when I smoke it...

toms haze is 70% of thai genes, Tom Hill says so, so if anybody use those 30 % phenos in reproduction with limited number of seeds, like 30 seeds, without deeper understanding of line, it may be possible, but dont know it with some certainity, that it is hard to find pheno with more portion of thai, dunno really. I would have to grow it. but why I would do so right?

I kept that "stony" red pheno for a while, it was strong and euphoric, but not lysergic.

as far as seedsman, I have it from three sources, from Argentina, from Canada and from Mac, which is mixed with 90shaze probably, not sure now. I will grow it when I have time. till now I only read it is strong, euphoric and energetic. but never that it is extremely psychoactive.

I have also colombian gold x nevilles haze from Huesos, and purple santa marta lumbo x panama red from Randy/Kanza... one day one day LOL

according to skunkman, not sure if we can believe him in this, as he changed it when Todd started to sell his lumbo dom Ohz. there should be wacky weed, santa marta gold and punto rojo... these colombians... he said he prefers green colombian(I guess colombian gold) with hint of thai... he said it before he changes it from lumbo/mexican/thai/south indian to three way lumbo hybrid.

 

[MAHA KALA]

Seedsman haze that I got from John Chicago was absolutely amazing incredible pure delicious extremely psychoactive and psychedelic

was it spacey?

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I disagree with you both. but in civilized way, of course heheheeh

I agree with Tom on woody lumbo haze. or with Dubi, he describes difference of lumbos vs. thai exactly how I feel it, when I smoke it...

toms haze is 70% of thai genes, Tom Hill says so, so if anybody use those 30 % phenos in reproduction with limited number of seeds, like 30 seeds, without deeper understanding of line, it may be possible, but dont know it with some certainity, that it is hard to find pheno with more portion of thai, dunno really. I would have to grow it. but why I would do so right?

I kept that "stony" red pheno for a while, it was strong and euphoric, but not lysergic.

as far as seedsman, I have it from three sources, from Argentina, from Canada and from Mac, which is mixed with 90shaze probably, not sure now. I will grow it when I have time. till now I only read it is strong, euphoric and energetic. but never that it is extremely psychoactive.

I have also colombian gold x nevilles haze from Huesos, and purple santa marta lumbo x panama red from Randy/Kanza... one day one day LOL

according to skunkman, not sure if we can believe him in this, as he changed it when Todd started to sell his lumbo dom Ohz. there should be wacky weed, santa marta gold and punto rojo... these colombians... he said he prefers green colombian(I guess colombian gold) with hint of thai... he said it before he changes it from lumbo/mexican/thai/south indian to three way lumbo hybrid.

I wish I had smoked enough thai and Lumbo to even know. I have grown a few hybrids of each, as with haze up until now. I can only guess which traits come from where and do my best to explain my experience. I cannot say how mine compares to anyone elses. In my opinion both the OH and THH had approximately 10 to 20% weak garbage. And 10 to 20% really good smoke. With the odds slightly higher on the OH. That middle 60 to 80% was also interesting. Most falling short on flavor or high or duration of high. But for the most part I am still looking forward to smoking it. It would be great to have the opportunity to smoke everybodies favorite and then I would be more confident what taste like thai or lumbo. I did have access to large amount of imported mexican (no idea if it was mexican but the people who brought it were). And the OH definitly more resemble the mexian that the THH.

Also . I didnt not find any reds or purples in either. And I have seeds out of all of my favorites and can try again.

 

[MAHA KALA]

 

[MAHA KALA]

when you get good thai pheno you know it. immediately... and you dont have to be familiar with thais... that intense rush, electricity and psychoactivity. it is clear right from the start imo. and it is citric metal shop, mine is with hint of cardamon, sour green mango, some say sour green apple... when you get it, you know it.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I have smoked the uptown and is is all teak leathery sandalwood incense like the typical Dutch Haze prevalent there in the 90's, perhaps a bit watered down even. I have also smoked the Black haze, which is even moreso imo.

As to the line I grow, I'm fucking sitting here telling you that the sandaldwood incense is not there

no matter wtf your "research" has turned up. I don't want folk to come looking for sandalwood etc in the Haze I offer because of your babble, which is, without question, patently false!

 

[bigtacofarmer]

when you get good thai pheno you know it. immediately... and you dont have to be familiar with thais... that intense rush, electricity and psychoactivity. it is clear right from the start imo. and it is citric metal shop, mine is with hint of cardamon, sour green mango, some say sour green apple... when you get it, you know it.

I have a few that hit hard and fast and send tingles through my whole body. And one made me wish I was laying on the floor while I was at work. A few put me in and intense trance that made me forget what I was doing over and over again.

I put my favorites away so I could smoke all the one I am culling and be sure I didnt like them more. I will dip back into my best after more of a cure and see what the are all about.

Ill roll a few of them up before going to see string cheese incident and the wolf bros on Friday. I can see how the feel combined mushroom extract.

 

[MAHA KALA]

. They, and you are wrong if any of you think the haze I work with shares any similarities at all with the uptown, or the leathery sandalwoody type Dutch Haze. I am very familiar with them all

 

[MAHA KALA]

I have a few that hit hard and fast and send tingles through my whole body. And one made me wish I was laying on the floor while I was at work. A few put me in and intense trance that made me forget what I was doing over and over again.

I put my favorites away so I could smoke all the one I am culling and be sure I didnt like them more. I will dip back into my best after more of a cure and see what the are all about.

Ill roll a few of them up before going to see string cheese incident and the wolf bros on Friday. I can see how the feel combined mushroom extract.

curing is very important with pure haze.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I have not found a strain I love yet that does not love a good cure.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I dont like cured og kush for example. after two months of curing I didnt like it as same as first two months in jar, mabye even less time. it is good fresh for me, cured it is... I dont like it. but that is very indica...

 

[MAHA KALA]

I really do not like Original Haze hybrids that use an WLD Indica to make powerful Hazes, they are strong but often lack the pure Sativa high the I prefer. It is easy though.
If done right with just haze taste and effects, and I can't tell it is a hybrid and it is strong as the Haze was, I would like it I bet. Even the Purple Haze from back in the 70's was not really my choice, they did seem a bit stronger then the greens, limes, and blues, but they also had a more narcotic effect to me. They were the prettiest not the best, to me.
-SamS

absolutely agree, not to cross it with straight wld and green lumbos are less narcotic.

 

[MAHA KALA]

here you have toms description of flavors bigtacofarmer:

it is very complex but I'll give it my best shot. Three complex components. A Thai-like lime citrus, an herb collection (rosemary, thyme etc), and a high school metal shop (metallic/oily). These 3 components are represented to varying degrees depending on phenotype - some are more herbal, some more citrus, some more metallic etc. -Tom

 

[MAHA KALA]

Tom Hill told me he breeds it for 14 weekers, I told him any of 14 weeker was not doing it for me like this 17 weeker I have. we differ in this, but in civilized form, of course hhahahahhahaha

 

[MAHA KALA]

Potent, up, electric, speedy, clear, cerebral, euphoric, psychedelic, energetic, mental, as well as no ceiling, every time you take a hit you get higher and get rushes. Makes folks turn white and get low blood pressure and pass out when they stand up, get paranoid. I like it and do not get too high, that is what I like. Along with the right terpenes, and none of the wrong ones, for taste and effects.
I found purple haze maybe more potent but more physical, I liked the silver-blue and lime-green better.
-SamS

yes.

I knew both Haze growers, they live apart within 2 blocks of my home in Santa Cruz in both directions. They grew almost all Colombian Haze, until it started running out of vigor from being inbred. Then one tried Haze X Thai and S Indian to increase vigor, and grew them all for several more years.
That is why I reproduced O Haze with very large numbers almost unselected, I did not want to lose genes. Almost all of the other hazes were hybrids like Nevils Haze, and many others out there, great for quality and vigor but not pure Haze. I wanted to save pure O Haze so I did
-SamS

so some thai was used, and that line got to Tom Hill via positronics...

I read that it was 1972 when thai was added...

there are rootbeer phenos in Toms haze, as well as in Seedsman haze, Tom was bitchin´ about everybody raves about rootbeer in Toms haze... he thinks it is inferior LOL... I kept that rootbeer pheno, I think it is mexican pheno of Toms haze, for a years, for its euphoric properties, but no way it was close to citric metallic thai one in trippiness...

Fruity, Sweet & Sour, Rootbeer, Cola, Chocolate, very /resinous hashy smell and taste. -SamS

95% of my Seedsmans females were sweet, very rootbeerish and the smoke was earthy peppery incense.

so I guess that these phenos, @bigtacofarmer, seemed to you similar. not thai phenos though.

 

[MAHA KALA]

toms haze rootbeer x oaxacan79bx. strictly mexican haze. a lot of rootbeer, cola and temple incense.

I dropped this cut, as when I smoked it after hybrids with my thaihaze male, it seemed so weak to me suddenly. before that it was my favorite. but now mexican phenos are weak to me...

 

[flower~power]

was it spacey?

I will call psychedelic