Million Man/Woman smoke out march!

[Wfw1]

I'm assuming there's some back logged law that says we can't make Pro cannabis commercials right? Cause that would be a big way to get peoples attention and gather their interest.

Tho nobody could stop you from putting them on websites.

We need to make a web page with the true info on cannabis that's written in lamens terms and is interesting but also shows people that herb ain't so bad.

 

[Anti]

you... tube... video.

make it funny.

make it viral.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^great idea anti. seen a bunch on youtube already. I dont have a video camera, so I need to enlist one of yall to make a youtube video to premote the march in 2010.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

O.K. Now I'm gonna write john stuart, bill maher, rick steves, and oliver stone. very pro pot people. I am going to sugest to them that they do a show based just on the facts of pot legalization, and do not even let the other side speak. not that I dont respect other opinions. It is just that the other sides opinions are not based in reality, so they have no fact or validity. Then they need to premote the march as well.

 

[Wfw1]

I wonder what kind of response you might get. Could be interesting.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^well its been a week and no response yet. I dont expect one.

 

[smokincheeze]

I say hit the "resend" button, till they answer

 

[whiskeytango420]

Im down! Starting my letters today! Great ideas and motavation Hash Z!
good vibes


we NEED more proactive people to do anything...not just sitting and bitching!...good shit guys

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

ya, I'm in.
How many cannabis forums are there do you think?
We need to be sure sure sure to get this stuck to every forum, for the handful of folks that are not members here anyways, I am sure we could get sympathetic mods at each place to help out.
As far as the tea party folks, I betcha that there are already folks like us there anyway, not to mention the folks that don't use cannabis but still support states rights, and individual liberties. Even if some completely disagree, those are folks that would listen, and respect our position, and if they are honest w/ themselves, they would also support our issue. I haven't heard of any more planned events though, so it may not even matter. But, even if we could get turnout like they did, and there is no reason why we couldn't, then that would be impressive.
The letters, that list, we should start a thread specifically for that, and when done, have folks go on and post how many they wrote and whom. That thread would eventually be huge if all went well, and be something that people would be able to see and say, "hmm, ya they are really doing stuff, look here, 45 pages of posts from all kinds of people that have all written letters to these places. Eh...maybe not, that may not make sense, I am still waking up here, but glad I found the thread.
Lets get a move on then,
MoveCannabis!
OFF THE CSA!
Empower people, empower states.

Sponsorship is good, even if it is just "moral support" like if HT or any of the existing canna activists organizations, as long as we could promote them in some form, and show the public that they do support our efforts. The issue I forsee down the road, is that all these existing groups all have their own agendas, and may not be inclined to lend support, or maybe they will I dunno. Just thinking about how some groups are exclusively for "medical" and give no consideration to the actual vast majority of cannabis consumers. Those folks have to realize that if "we" win, then they win by default. And that if they continue to bastardize this political movement as has happened beginning in 96, then we aren't going to get anywhere. I think alot of it comes down to folks that want to justify their cannabis consumption, as opposed to them just saying, "ya, I smoke everyday, because I like to get high."
It's that simple, there is nothing wrong with that, but...
Well, anyways, sorry but glad I got here and glad you are all here as well.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

something else to consider also, we could in leading up to the big event, pull off some "flash mob" type of stuff. Not saying the flash mob, but similar. Obviously we would not want to be doing anything dangerous or illegal so to speak, but totally spontaneous events that could grab some headlines somewhere even if it were local. LIke at a big public media event, (for example, Richard Branson's Global Flier taking off, would have been perfect for KS a few years back,) then bam, all of the sudden, the smell of kush is in the air, and there are a few hundred really happy friendly looking folks w/ some green shirts that say something clever. Also clever signs would be good. That would be the type of thing that we would want individual cells in states to put together independent of each other and then pull off in the name of whatever and promote the million smoke out. Does that make sense, it would also unify folks locally on the ground and give them confidence, and show them that teengs wor appenin', does that make sense. ?

 

[T.Baggins]

id show up... but not to support Eddy... flame away at that if you want, i know the truth about him, not the great guy every one thinks.....
but, hell yeah id show!! .... i bet the guys selling drinks and snacks will make a killing...

 

[MOneYMiKe]

hot dawg's get your chemdawg's

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Ok. I have decided to have marches in multiple large cities to attract a greater over all number of people. Also I am changing the day to up to 4/20. I have to get real with my self here. July 4th is a family holiday and most stoners would rather be at a bbq and watching fireworks. 4/20 is a pot holiday, people will be feeling a little more out spoken on the subject.

So basically what I want to do now is find a representative (or multiple) for each state on IC mag. The people need to live in or near the big cities with universities for maximum efficiency, but any place is just fine really. You know? The more the merrier kinda thing.

I dont want to know which city or school exactly. In fact no details other than the state. Anyone who would want to interfere with plans could cause harm if any details were to escape. The only reason I want to know the state is so, I can know that somewhere in every state there is some effort going on connected directly to 49 other efforts with exactly the same agenda. We have to have seperate "smoking circles" operating with no knowledge of the other "smoking circles" in the same group. That way the whole thing cant be dragged down by one circle that might be pressured by local LEO to stop using our right to assemble. hahaa.

If you sign up to be a rep please take this seriously. Just PM me and tell me what state you are in. there is no limits to how many reps a state can have. A reps job is just to spread the word. Then if you want I will hook you up with other reps in your state, but only I will have a list of all the IC reps. I will not even keep your IC mag name. you will be represented by a tally on a piece of paper.

Step 1. I need people to design flyers and I will chose the ones we will use. Probably do a pole for it. Everyone can print the flyers and then make copies. color looks more pro, but I no everyone doesnt have the money for that.

Step 2. Start spreading the flyers until next year. Everyone send flyers to TV, and radio stations. Send them to other web sites. Send them to news papers and magazines. Send them to friends and family. Send them to bands.

Put them up at universities, med shops and head shops. Hand them out at concerts.

Step 3. ALWAYS be recruiting more reps out side of IC mag. Give flyers to reps. I am to have no knowledge of these reps at all. That way no one knows enough for anyone to ruin it.

Step 4. I need Youtube videos like crazy. Explain how the gateway theory is bs. We just need as many facts out there as we can get. The more videos that flood you tube on the subject the better.


KEEP IT PEACEFUL

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Ok here is some easy guide lines for the fliers. Each rep has to pick the place where they will have their part of the protest. People that live in the area will know better than outsiders. So just advertise the protest "as all day on 420" at the place you choose to have the protest. I think the capitol building of each state would be best. Legislative buildings are good too. If this is not allowed maybe choose a city park or town hall.

Give fliers to others that wish to take part, and get them to spread the word as well. This is pure grass roots folks.

You also NEED to call the news stations and let them know of the protest on the day it is happening. you can do it from a pay phone if you want.

The more people that sign up and make a flier for their city the more cities we can have with a protest.

THIS IS IMPORTANT. At each protest there NEEDS to be a petition to sign, then we can collect the petitions from each city and put them together, and send it to as many government officials, in all three branches of government as possible. If we actually got a million signatures collected nation wide, that would make a huge statement.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

One thing to consider for each event, there should be a line up of speakers, it can be simple as regular folks volunteering to read pre-written work, their own (it has to be very mainstream though, we do not want to get the A-typical ranting anti-american type of personality up there. For this to work we need to be inclusive and reach out to more moderate mainstream minded folks, and portray ourselves in the same way. Otherwise we will not be taken seriousely.)
Wow that was a long (_) thingy lol.
Anyway, a select time slot like 100 to 400 or something, again it can be as simple as someone speaks for 15 minutes or whatever on very very basic facts regarding cannabis and our society. No calling for armed uprisings or anything, we CANNOT let our emotional ties to the issue overwhelm our message.
We need a consistent message, simple short and sweet. That should be tied to fliers, and if possible something that could be distributed digitally and used to print shirts as well. I have no clue on this or how it would need to be designed to fit those parameters. Just thinking here.
But yeah, having speakers is important, that way it's not just a random gathering of people for no reason you know. Hell, if some people could twist arms and get local celebs, can't hurt to ask right. Get local politicians that may be favorable as well.

Hash, you know I am in, I don't know if I can be there for security reasons, aside from being disguised as a average joe on looker taking pictures. But yeah I am gonna work on this where I am. Kansas 420 20-X. I suggest Lawrence, people in KS will understand this for obvious reasons. I would think that harping on states rights, individual liberties, draconian nature of cannabis laws, addressing potentially contributing members of our communties that are harmed by laws, as well as the medical aspects and potential benefits of legal cannabis. I am just ranting now.
Other folks to talk to about this would be anyone that locally is pinched on possession charges, as long as that's it, obviously you don't want to be supporting a guy that runs from the cops w/ a 45 some meth and a little weed you know what I mean. People that aside from the cannabis crime, they are law abiding squares.

I think that 2010 is too soon to pull this off. I would aim for 2012, right before the election, when political speak is listened to the most. When the most attention is being paid to political issues, protests, ect...
just my 2 cents, but would not hurt to get a dry run or 2 under the belt and get kinks worked out so that by 2012, it's slick as spit on a gold tooth.
Another thing, active leader locally could actively register voters and take that moment to advertise the event.

So, what is this gonna be called? Should be something that is not confrontational, or alleging illegal activity, we need to show people we are respectable, and respect the law, otherwise people that we need to listen to us will not. Let's tread carefully here now, we are all about to learn on the fly I think!

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^ these are all very good points IE2KS_KUSH. We do need to have intelligent speakers that also speak and look like your average joe with a good education. It cant just be an excuse for a party.

I think we should aim for 2010, and do it every year until decriminalization. It can become bigger each year.

And your right it needs an official name. It's going to be "The National Protest for Cannabis Decriminalization" The NPCD...... unless this one already exist? haha

Here are some of the main points of protest. they can be included on the flier too.
1. Decriminalize, regulate, and tax cannabis like alcohol.
2. Disprove anti-cannabis propaganda with facts. Disprove the gateway theory.
3. prove the medical validity.
4. Stop funding drug Cartels. (start funding the county with taxes instead)
5. Refocus law enforcement on bigger problems such as meth, coke, and heroin.
6. Clear the non-violent harmless people out of overcrowded prisons. (instead of ruining their lives over a plant)
7. Create Jobs.
8. Factual comparisons of Alcohol, and tobacco, and car accident deaths vs. pot deaths. (zero)
9. Cannabis history.
10. The right to do what you want in your own home as long as you are not hurting anybody else.

More ideas are welcome.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Boom there you go, basic framework, all topics any of us could easily spend 5 or 9 minutes on. Next would be getting 10 people to at least cover these topics as a minimum. Your talking anywhere from an hour to hour and a half total speaking. Obviously you could break that up over a 4 or 5 or however much you want by filling the inbetween speaking times w/ music, local bands perhaps, overwhelming digital propaganda from our side, whatever. But I could see that. Here's my question, and in all honesty have no idea what exactly it would take, but each local should cover any permits etc.. that may be needed to be legal no? All right, seriously now, I NEED to get something done, I got to get out from in front of this screen, I am supposed to be moving tomorrow night, better start packing lol!
(Oh for sure I already got all (MY) shit packed up you know whaddamean. But still not anything else!) So I will be in and out here the next few days, guess if you don't hear from me within 49 hours, then somethings way wrong, something is going on! Send the task force team to come get me out of custody!)

 

[smokesalot420]

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Now THIS kinda conversation is what I'm talking about!!!!!!!

I love how people are giving great, feasible ideas (well, some are) instead of the constant nay-say that I've been seeing on this site recently.....

We do need to do something about this ourselves because the politicians aren't going to take this issue up on their own. Last night I watched 2 republican Congressman make a joke on the Bill Maher show that they didn't want to talk about the drug debate because they wanted to get re-elected..... What does that tell you? It either shows: That they are not in touch with what the people who voted them in want; The people aren't telling their representatives what they really want; There are higher powers still trying to prevent legalization or taxing, regulating, and controlling (now we're talking the gov'ts language!). In my opinion, I think it is a combination of all of these factors! Unless a large mass of people SHOW or tell the politicians what we want, or better yet what we demand, the status quo will be maintained and we will continue to be frustrated with nothing to show for it!

I love the idea of a growers union as money and votes talk in Washington...... It seems to be the only language they understand! You see politicians switching parties or "teams" all the time because if they don't they will be removed from office (I can think of at least 2 examples in the last few years). So let's start talking their language, it's the only way we'll get our point across.

I also like the idea of people gathering throughout the US in cities in each state if possible. If we show that people from every major city are in support of this it may make it accessible to many more people. I read the thread about the Million man smoke out and it seemed people were having trouble taking time off work (for those who were still working) or couldn't travel to Washington to participate.

Piggybacking off the tea parties may be a great idea too, as long as everything is kept civil between the groups. It could also cause problems and get messages mixed up (anyone remember the WTO demonstrations in Seattle and how they trampled their constitutional rights?)

Thanks for everyone who is sharing ideas on how we can make a difference in this matter.... It's time we stop waiting for others to do something about this and take matters in our own hands!

Keep the ideas coming everyone, this is the best time and probably best way for us to make any progress on this issue! Is it just me or does this just feel like another way to discriminate people, whether it is denying smokers jobs or many other things..... What if we started looking at this issue like that, and speak language that they understand?

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I was not aware protesting required a permit. I thought the constitution was the permit. I encourage any rep, that grows, and starts a march in their city, to find a place that doesn't require a permit. I wanna this to be as risk free as possible for everyone. The goal of this is to stay legal, peaceful, and free, while getting our point across.

This includes being clean; as in we need everyone to pick up their trash, and show respect for the city. Also show respect to LEO, and nay sayers. They need to see that we are a respectful, responsible, and valuable group of people.

If you need a permit, and it cost money, then I don't know what to tell you. I do not have protest organization experience. This is why I am seeking so much help. I just have passion, and a constantly loaded bong bowl.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

^^ LOL
Sums it up for me as well. Really I have no idea, you may be correct, may not need anything in the way of permits, but I dunno, probably depends on your local city, should check into it. I doubt that they cost any significant amount of money if it needs to be done. And it may not, I dunno, never tried to be involved w/ anything like this either, learning on the fly! Maybe someone can chime in here w/ relevant experience, or I will be digging into it more once I get a moment. In the middle of moving back to Kansas as I type this.
Hash, I think there is a guy in OK ready to roll. There will probably be slightly small differences in the way every individual rally will happen w/ regard to regs maybe, then again maybe not. Everyone should keep in the back of their mind that their local event is part of a larger event, but at the same time, treat your local event as if it were the only one in the world. Does that make sense? This is exciting.