Micro grow #2 - White Widdow

[Jonnysact]

ahh kk. I guess I'm waiting for the third set of true leaves. Waiting for the little ones that are shooting out now to grow out, and will top once the next set of leaves make themselves visible.

They are growing quite quickly now, which is great. Will post photos this weekend when there is more to show.

 

[Jonnysact]

Since their transplant a few day ago, they are really killing it. Topped them all yesterday and they are still looking great. Stems are a little purple. Giving them PH 5.8. Weak nutes to come soon.

 

[Jonnysact]

Little problem, in need of a little help. Hopefully activity in this thread picks up a bit.

As you can see in my previous image, I have two yogurt containers that are being used as catch trays sinec I ran out of lids ( i know right? ). This has been great, until I realized what's been happening in one of my plants:

What is the best way to deal with this? Should i chop those roots? They are definitely too long to put back in. Should I raise the whole plant out of the container and drop it back in? This way the roots wil probably just fold back into the dirt, and I won't make the same mistake again creating a little chamber down below that is dark and humid. lol.

*** edit***
ended up simply pulling the plant out of the containe, gave it a twist to pull back the roots and dropped it back down into the container. Phew.

 

[Jonnysact]

Update today.

So I woke up today, had a look at my new ones and 3 of them didn't look too happy. One of them is super perky and they were all topped 5 days ago and the two new main stems are popping up on all of them. However, they have been droopy now for a day and a half. I gave them some water this morning so I'll check back this afternoon/evening to see how they are doing.

They look similarly to how they did at the beginning when they became quickly root bound. I'm sure I'm close to having the same problem, however, at the risk of sounding amateur , I have seen full plants grown in these yogurt sized containers before so there must be a way to do it without killing the plant before getting root bound and it dying. Right? The plan was to transplant them once I get their sex and cull the males.

I mean, on my first grow, the plant got to at least this size before I transplanted them into the bigger pots:

Again, In pro-mix Seedling starter. Giving them water PH'ed at 5.8. Stems are still too purple..... Had this same issue on my first grow. Gave them their first feeding this morning at 65ppm of 20-20-20 organic feed as growth has slowed some and the bottom leaves are losing more colour.

Temperatures are mid 80's on avg and RH is 40% (can't go higher until a week from now when I harvest my Bc Big Bud plant )

Anywho, here's a shot. What's going on do you think?

 

[unk1]

i usually start seeing the red stems after i prune or put the plant under more light. i cant figure out exactly what it is? it hasn't been a problem with the overall plant health and flowers so i stopped worrying about it. but it's looking like the farther away from the fans the less happy the plants look... maybe an airflow issue?

also if the ambient temp is in the mid 80's, with those CFL's the plant's actual temp is probably closer to low 90's. something about the IR light that heats the surface of the plants. can't find exact article i read on ic mag, but you can google that info.

 

[Jonnysact]

Those are good suggestions. I've moved my canvas's away from the light to get the top at 79. So the yare about an inch further from the lights than they were before. Still really droopy though. Where are the pro's at?

As for the air flow, that real nice looking one was on the other side of the case a few days ago, just switched it over to that side on the 21st.

 

[Jonnysact]

update pic! They are looking much better now. Colour is coming back to the yellow one bit by bit. Thought that would stay yellow and only new grow would be more green, but it seems to change marginally every day. Question is, I gave it nutes 2 days ago, should I give it nutes again on the next watering to make it more green or will that potentially burn em?

My guess is that I have 2 males, and 2 females. 2 males on the left, 2 females on the right. We'll see in a few weeks Will probably throw them into flower mid april.

 

[Waterlab420]

update pic! They are looking much better now. Colour is coming back to the yellow one bit by bit. Thought that would stay yellow and only new grow would be more green, but it seems to change marginally every day. Question is, I gave it nutes 2 days ago, should I give it nutes again on the next watering to make it more green or will that potentially burn em?

My guess is that I have 2 males, and 2 females. 2 males on the left, 2 females on the right. We'll see in a few weeks Will probably throw them into flower mid april.

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Water , water , Feed. All in preference though.

Dont wanna try and force them to be green youll only make it worse.

 

[Jonnysact]

Yeah, solid advice.

They were watered 3 days ago, but there is still a little weight at the bottom of the containers, but the top 2" was very dry and the plants lost 15% of their perkiness, so I sprayed the top layer with some PH'ed water just to moisten the upper portion a bit.

Was this a good move?

 

[Waterlab420]

Yeah, solid advice.

They were watered 3 days ago, but there is still a little weight at the bottom of the containers, but the top 2" was very dry and the plants lost 15% of their perkiness, so I sprayed the top layer with some PH'ed water just to moisten the upper portion a bit.

Was this a good move?

What light schedule on you on? 18/6? And when do you water?

Sounds like an uptake problem. I usually let mine dry out pretty hardcore, remember they can wilt from to much water as well.

How much water do you usually add? I tend to add 20-25% water to container size. So 4L pit size would be 1L or less of water. But that's just wat I do lol

 

[Jonnysact]

So it's been a while since i've posted. Looks like I had 3 males and 1 female But now I'm LST the lady to hopefully get a higher yield. will also transplant next watering, so either tomorrow or Sunday.

Here she is!

And the men:

I'm finding it easier and easier to tell the males from the females at a very early stage. Females are tending to be much shorter, bushier at the bottoms where the males stretch taller with fewer sets of leaves, so it seems.

They have been in flowering for 4 days now.

 

[Jonnysact]

Been a while since I posted, but here is a quick update.

about 2 weeks into flowering. In hindsight, I would have like to have veg'ed for another 1.5 weeks to help all of the little buds along the horizontal stretch up more to reach the same height as the two main tops. But they are catching up, bit by bit, just very, very slowly, as I continue to train the tops downwards. Hopefully I'll get a decent yield. I'm going to guess around 22-25 grams this time around. I also cut off all of the lower branches that were underneath the canopy to focus the growth on whatever is closest to the lights. Defoliated a bit too to make sure that none of the bud sites were covered in shade.

 

[StrangeVisitor]

Hey jdubsky!
Good to see your update! The plant looks good and strong. Do you feed it or just water it? It seems to me that the color of leafs is a bit light green if it’s not the white balance on the camera.
You better don’t post your window-view photos online – there’s never too much safety
Take care!

 

[jaytoker]

I agree with strange it looks like she could use some more Nitrogen in her diet.

 

[Jonnysact]

Hey,

yeah she's getting fed. You'll notice slight burning too. colour might be due to mix of light spectrum or the fact that I still haven't nailed down PH. They look good to the eye with some yellowing on the lower leaves a bit.

Honestly, after months of this, still haven't nailed the perfect PH in this promix seedling starter stuff. It definitely goes through deficiencies (yellowing of the lower leaves and purple stems). I'm finally getting green stems at the ends...

 

[Jonnysact]

more pics:

 

[jaytoker]

For the next round you should consider building (custom fit to cab dimensions and 1'ish deep) or buy the largest tote that can fit in the cab. Maximizing root space can and will help with yield especially for CFL production. This way you can veg 1 plant big for scrog or plant a buch for SOG without transplanting. In either case yield will most likely increase.

 

[Jonnysact]

Definitely, I actually covered that issue in another thread.. I can't play with the dimensions of my box, so that's fixed but I've been looking for the perfect pot size for a while now and I still haven't found something that's quite perfect. I could easily fit a pot that's twice the size of the one I'm currently using, and still fit two of them in there. Ideally, I'd be growing two ladies in there instead of just 1.

 

[blynx]

Nice structure you trained her to. She's gonna fill in nicely.

Do you add earth worm castings to your promix seedling starter mix? I start my cuts in a 3:1:1 of promix:ewcerlite and that supports them for a bit without any feeding/yellowing.

 

[Jonnysact]

That's a great idea blynx, I've never looked into that before.

The yellowing I think is really my lack of technique. I think i'm going to try swinging the PH with each feeding. It seems when I keep it around 6.5, I get green stems but yellowing of leaves, where as when I water at 5.8, I get great looking leaves, slightly more magenta stems. Still haven't found the sweet spot so maybe swinging the PH might help it uptake different nutes with each watering.