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Medical 1200W room design, some input needed

pineappaloupe

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Hello ICmag, first id like to say that im stoked to see that the information void from the loss of OG has been filled.

So, I am getting my cali med card very soon, and am setting up a grow room. Ive been doing lots of reading here in the past week and making a list of supplies.

The room:
I plan on building a fully sealed room made of 4x8' insulation material (used for houses) inside the bedroom, with a 6 inch gap between the two walls for added insulation. The room will be approximately 10x10, maybe 12x10. The floor will be covered in plastic. The entire house will be cleaned an bug bombed prior to building. No one will ever visit the house except extremely close friends, and no one with dreadlocks and spider mite infested plants will come near me.

The lights:
I am starting with 2 600w lamps, housed in Daystar AC hoods, powered my a Gro Pro 600w dual output balalst. The ballast will be located outside of the room. The two hood will be ventilated separately from the grow space by a 6" Vortex inline fan, pulling air from outside, through the hoods, and out of the room (possibly into the hosue for heat in the winter). I will use a fan speed controller on the Vortex. I have yet to decide on a bulb.
I have chosen to use the simple 110v wall outlets for power, using different breakers to for the ballast, fans, etc. The wiring in the house is solid. Lights will by hung from a PVC frame, with those yo-yo height adjusters.

The Medium:
I am an experience outdoor guerilla grower, so indoors is a bit of a new sport. I developed very good organic soil methods outdoor, and plan to keep using organic soil mixes. I will use pots, watered by a central reservior to make my life easier. A tray will connect the pots and be sloped to collect the water run off.

The Grow:
I have some special genetics from some friends. Plants will be vegged and trained. Each light will cover a 3x4 area (maybe less). I plan on experimenting with a SCROG under one light, with the other using heavily trained plants.
The inner room will be vented with an 8" Vortex inline fan, on a speed controller, into a carbon scrubber. Air will enter the room from the outside.
Atleast one oscilating fan will be inside the room to stir up the air.
Ventilation lines will be insulated and kept as straight as possible, avoiding 90 degree bends if possible. Ducts will go up into the ceiling to an attic.
Vegging will be done under the HPS, although I may have the budget to get a conversion bulb, or a switchable ballast.

Remaining issues:
-I chose magnetic ballasts over electronic because of the info I read in multiple threads that leads me to beleive the technolgy is not yet perfect.

-I have not decided on buying a carbon scrubber vs building one. I still have atleast a month to figure that one out.

-I will eventually be upgrading my room, eventually running atleast 4 600W lights, in seperate rooms. I can legally have 10 flower plants, and 10 veg. Cards can be compounded in a house, and i may take on a card bearing room mate.

-I am open to the idea of hydroponics. I have considered DWC over other methods. A 3rd light may be set up to experiment.


I think that is about it. Any and all input is greatly appreciated. I will draw up some diagrams eventually.
BTW I like above 6000ft, and winters are fairly cold. Not VT cold, but still cold. Summer temps rarely break 80.

peace
 
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irie-i

hey pineappaloupe and welcome!
there is a problem though:
I plan on building a fully sealed room
but
The inner room will be vented with an 8" Vortex inline fan, on a speed controller, into a carbon scrubber. Air will enter the room from the outside.

so i am a bit confused... if you seal you'll need an air conditioner and CO2 supplementation

i also came to indoors with outdoor experience. i think you should stick with organic soil if that is what you know. maybe later after you get the rest of indoor worked out you can start experimenting.
 
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If you do go with a sealed grow,consider the vaportek optimum 4000 for odor control,according to rezdog its the thing to use.I got mine but havent started flowering yet.
 

vta

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Welcome to ICMAG


"I have yet to decide on a bulb."

We use EYE Hortilux bulbs...they cost more but really produce.


"plan to keep using organic soil mixes."

"I am open to the idea of hydroponics. I have considered DWC over other methods. A 3rd light may be set up to experiment."

We use Fox Farm soil and nuits and get great results...but I had even better results indoors with a coco/hydro setup. Now we are switching to buckets.

"Vegging will be done under the HPS, although I may have the budget to get a conversion bulb, or a switchable ballast."

If your gonna do this, do it right and have both veg and flower rooms. Keep a couple mothers going for clones. We harvest every week and put new clones into flower at the same time. Get yourself some bubble bags...its a wast if you don't and you'll be happy you did.

"I chose magnetic ballasts over electronic because of the info I read in multiple threads that leads me to beleive the technolgy is not yet perfect."

We use both. No problems with the digital and the next one I get will also be digital.

"I have not decided on buying a carbon scrubber vs building one. I still have atleast a month to figure that one out."

Build it...so easy and they work great. There are tons of threads here one it...check out TheDopest's

Good luck!
 

pineappaloupe

Active member
allright well thanks for the input.

irie-i: i will build a 10x10' room out of insulation boards or a frame for black and white poly. the atmosphere of the grow room is totally separate from the outside room. a box within a box. the ventilation from the lights pulls air from outside the house, and will return the hot ait into the house as long as odor is not a problem. the ventilation of the grow space is on a different fan, it will pull air in from the outer room, or outside, and will exit the house through the attic (not directly blasted outside) after being scrubbed. ideally the air flow is great enough to not need a co2 generator. i wont need an air conditioner, its almost snowed here yesterday.

skeletor: thanks for the reccomendation. btw are you an ex OG'er?

vta: ive been lookin at the EYE bulbs, im definately not skimpng on the piece that actually produces the light
eventually i will have atleast 2 1200W room going, i can have 10 flower, 10 veg, 1 mother. im playing around with the idea of an 1800W room that is always flowering, and having a 2 stage veg space, moving plants in and out as they finish, as i will have a variety of strains.


from an efficiency standpoint one 8" inline could run both light venting and room venting, especially when 2 room are going. it would require more engineering, using close off valves and splitting the ducting.
any ideas? maybe when the lights are on, air could be sucked from the room, through the fan, over the lights and out through the filter. and when they are off... i dunno, maybe a separate network of ducting.
pulling hot air through a fan isnt good for its life i imagine.

i have some diagrams of potential light configurations. ive been using a 3x3' are per 600w... but i doubt the footprint of the light will be square. the daystar reflectors are very rectangular, which would allow better air flow, but a square reflector might have a more square foot print.

thats it for now. next stop is the doctor, then is go time.

peace, and thanks for the input
 
Sounds like you got a great plan Pine. I cant wit to see it in action!!!! I saw your post on the snowboarders thread, I ride kirkwood as much as possible!! Its my favorite place! I live east of you, I think, down in the valley. Its good to see a local on this site! Grow on bro!!
ps what kinda strains you got going??
 

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