Master Bedroom conversion..need advice

[Caravaggio]

So we are about to turn a 13x20 bedroom into a flower room and switch our tents to mothers rooms.

The master has its own bathroom.

I'm looking for any advice on how to best utilize the bathroom fan. Isn't that a great spot to connect an inline for fresh air or should I do that through the AC duct? We have one window in the room but we are going to cover it.

Another question is about electrical. We don't plan to require more than 6000 watts running in that room at anytime. Is there anything I should have an electrician install before building this out? I've never hired an electrician before and I'm a bit sketched out about doing it.

 

[Sam the Caveman]

The bathroom fan is likely going to be a 4" hole, nearly useless for a 6kw grow.

Personally, I would recommend you learn how to wire the new circuit. Its not that complicated to do. There is some good info on dxhydro thats quick and to the point, they will have a good light controller too.

It really depends on your climate as to what the best way to set up your room. What are your summers and winters like?

 

[Caravaggio]

The bathroom fan is likely going to be a 4" hole, nearly useless for a 6kw grow.

Personally, I would recommend you learn how to wire the new circuit. Its not that complicated to do. There is some good info on dxhydro thats quick and to the point, they will have a good light controller too.

It really depends on your climate as to what the best way to set up your room. What are your summers and winters like?

Wiring my own circuit is not an option.

Summers where I live are extremely long and extremely HOT.

What exactly would I be asking an electrician to do for each room that we will be flowering? Is it anything that can be done outside at the box rather than needing to come inside?

 

[Sam the Caveman]

Asking an electrician to do what you need will probably raise some red flags with him. Its very odd to need that much electricity to one or two spare bedrooms, there aren't many valid reasons for it.

He will be adding a new breaker to the breaker box and running the proper sized wiring from it to the room you need it in, thats all there is to it.

You can open the breaker box and see how other 240 breakers are wired to find out where the ground and neutral need to be connected, its pretty self explanitory. You will probably need a flat head screw driver to connect all the wires to the new breaker and the panel bars. Before you stick a screwdriver in that box anywhere make sure the "main" breaker is turned off. After you wire up the new breaker, it just stabbs into the panel. Flip the main back on and you got power.

Some people may not agree with the way I suggest, but from my understanding this is safe and I've done it this way before without any problems. Don't think I turned off the main though. I would recommend turning off the main though if your not somewhat familiar with how it all works.

There are several companies that make lighting controllers that are plug and play, or you can get the hardwired versions. For the plug and play types, just find the correct plug with the proper rating at home depot and connect it to the wire from the breaker panel. For the hardwired versions, just connect the wire from the breaker directly into the controller.

If your in an illegal state, I would not recommend getting an electrician to do this, it will severely compromise your security, whether it be with the cops or his friends that may come and rob you later.

 

[Caravaggio]

Thanks man. Definitely not comfortable with doing it and know VERY little about electrical.

Im in a Legal state and just growing for my patients. Regardless, I don't care to have anyone know about it thats for sure.

 

[olddirtybastard]

the window in your room should be your fresh air intake, you just need to build an airbox around it out of plywood so its lightproof but still lets air in, with blinds on the window no one will be able to tell from the outside, as for the electrical....

Sam is right, nobody needs 6k watts in a bedroom, hiring an electrician is not a great idea. you can do it yourself if you put some effort into it. better yet have a friend show u, i learned in an afternoon how to wire up a new circuit....easier than u think.

also to run 6kwatts you will need many circuits, unless your lights are 240v.

 

[MIway]

Asking an electrician to do what you need will probably raise some red flags with him. Its very odd to need that much electricity to one or two spare bedrooms, there aren't many valid reasons for it.

nah... with the retractable roof over the party/bed room, the open air 20' diameter custom jacuzzi is gonna need a lot of heating action, plus u'v got the video game room adjacent to it along w the arc welding station & electric kiln for the custom fabrication shop in the closet. ;-)

 

[Sam the Caveman]

nah... with the retractable roof over the party/bed room, the open air 20' diameter custom jacuzzi is gonna need a lot of heating action, plus u'v got the video game room adjacent to it along w the arc welding station & electric kiln for the custom fabrication shop in the closet. ;-)

Ya know, now that you mention it, both of my neighbors have that in their houses.

 

[MIway]

it's da trend... power co is bankin on us jacuzzi hopping arc welders... ;-)

 

[Caravaggio]

the window in your room should be your fresh air intake, you just need to build an airbox around it out of plywood so its lightproof but still lets air in, with blinds on the window no one will be able to tell from the outside, as for the electrical....

Sam is right, nobody needs 6k watts in a bedroom, hiring an electrician is not a great idea. you can do it yourself if you put some effort into it. better yet have a friend show u, i learned in an afternoon how to wire up a new circuit....easier than u think.

also to run 6kwatts you will need many circuits, unless your lights are 240v.

Unfortunately none of those things are an option or this thread would have never existed.

Would ji need to run new wiring through walls and stuff? Or is it something that can just be done out at the box?

 

[Caravaggio]

There is a 220 outlet about 20ft from the flower room. Is there something I can plug into that and run the lights off of that? Is that even enough?

 

[Caravaggio]

There is a 220 outlet about 20ft from the flower room. Is there something I can plug into that and run the lights off of that? Is that even enough?

Anyone?

 

[marrdogg]

You can take the 220 and split it to 2 seperate lines. The 220 breaker at the panel should have atleast a 50amp (maybe more/maybe less) double breaker this will give you 25 amps each line. What you add to them is on you but you will have a basic idea of what your working with. I would estimate maybe 4000w-4300w between the two. Also you have other power sources in room more than enough power for your grow so if your willing to twist a screwdriver you can do it yourself. I would personally make sure I had atleast a 60amp breaker. Like said, shut down main, big switch in box, unscrew wire(just 1 so easy) pop breaker out should lift out on same side as screw pop new breaker in screw wire bake in place flip main back on make sure breaker is on and your in business. Hope this helps PEACE! Oh yeah the 220 recepticle you should be able to buy a bare plug from HomeDepot look in washer dryer section, maybe $20-$30 and run your seperate lines from them no need for electrician or to dig in your walls. PEACE!

 

[rives]

^^^^There are a number of errors is this post - in fact, most of it is incorrect. I would suggest telling the electrician that your wife is a pottery nut and insists on giving up the master bedroom for her kilns and mixers. Have a 60 amp, 240v sub-panel installed and you can do pretty much whatever you want now and in the future.

You can take the 220 and split it to 2 seperate lines. The 220 breaker at the panel should have atleast a 50amp (maybe more/maybe less) double breaker this will give you 25 amps each line.

Each line on a double-pole 50 amp breaker will carry 50 amps, not 25. You need to find out what voltage your lighting requires and build accordingly.

What you add to them is on you but you will have a basic idea of what your working with. I would estimate maybe 4000w-4300w between the two. Also you have other power sources in room more than enough power for your grow so if your willing to twist a screwdriver you can do it yourself. I would personally make sure I had atleast a 60amp breaker. Like said, shut down main, big switch in box, unscrew wire(just 1 so easy) pop breaker out should lift out on same side as screw pop new breaker in screw wire bake in place flip main back on make sure breaker is on and your in business.

Do not up-size a breaker until you know if the wire will handle it - the wire will very seldom be adequate to increase the breaker size.

The existing 240v outlet that you made reference to could possibly be used, depending on what amperage it is and the options to route the power from it.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Go to this web site and see if he has a power box that will run on your 220 circuit.

http://www.dxhydro.com/

If that 220 is a 30 amp circuit and is running nothing you may be able to run 5 240v ballast on that circuit. If it is a 40 amp circuit you would be able to run all 6 ballasts at 240v.

You may be able to run one ballast off of the rooms circuit and another off of the bathrooms as well. If you do this make sure you are not also connected to another room. You can do this by getting a receptacle tester at Home Depot for about $5. you simple shove it in the outlet and it will light up. Do this in the bedroom first then turn off the breaker and the lights will go off on the tester. Once you turn off the breaker go to the adjacent rooms and test it on the outlets and you will be able to tell if they are on the same circuit.

Another option is to get a ballast with a longer striking cord from the hydro store. I am not sure of the brand but there is one that has a 65 foot socket cord.

Best of luck.

 

[Caravaggio]

Thanks guys!

I think that things on www.DXhydro.com would be the answer so I can avoid having an electricna come out.

I have a 240v in a laundry room really close to 2 of our grow rooms and another one in the kitchen for the stove that I can also use. I guess I will just need to run extension cords on most of them. Is that going to be an issue? I was planning to tape them to the ceiling and run them through the house.

 

[Caravaggio]

PS: The room we were most concerned about is the one that will be running 4 12 bulb T5 HO light units. But each one only draws about 750 watts so I think we should be pretty OK.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

I believe that Dx will put a longer cord on that set up if you ask for a small charge.

 

[rives]

The people on here that have been using DxHydro's stuff seem to be very happy with them. You will need to identify the 240v receptacle that you want to use - if you look at it closely, it should have some identification on it. It is usually 30 amps for a dryer receptacle and 50 amps for a range, but 40 is also used. Also, you need to see if the receptacle has 3 or 4 openings in it - the one with 3 is 240v only, and the one with 4 is 120/240. I doubt that a longer 30-50 amp cord is going to be a "small charge". Copper prices have gone crazy, and that is a very large cord. Measure carefully!

 

[marrdogg]

You can tap directly into the 220 from the recepticle. As far as amperage if you read I said maybe more/maybe less. Wiring to that recepticle will handle 220amp as it is I believe 10 gauge. Now the wiring you run for your outlets does not have to be 10 gauge as 12 would handle the load. If this wasn't at all possible then the 6000w+ that I am running in my room would have caught fire a long time ago young sir! Also there is a plug and play unit that will plug directly into the recepticle. So don't say something will not work been doing this a long time son!