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argoagro

Finally hit page 50 of this thread & LOVING it, allthough wish more regarding altitude was touched on, I'm in the mountains at about 1,500' elevation.

I've actually done and had quite a bit of success with such sites, but, all depends...(some heavily trafficked....kids, bikes, and so on....but then some fenced up tight, some construction sites in limbo, and so on......)

I actually just stumbled upon another one that is, welll errrr, different than above.
 

Julian

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blackone said:
Good luck to everybody this year!
I'll also be doing some trees this year - or at least I hope they will be - unknown Danish genetics but supposed to be good (Cafeparadis).

Autoflowering plants (Pehkuruder) and clones (Freja) will also go out there, as well as various breeding spots.

Last year I had terrible luck with late flower minis from seed - perhaps it was the strains or perhaps something else - but they didn't flower very well without a veg phase first, and then they got soo close that they were busy fighting for space while they should have been building buds.
I hope clones will be different.
Thank you man......the same to you and everyone else....this is the time we live for, right? :smoke:....

I thought you actually did well with those (minis). Sounds about right though....as always, timing, spacing a big role...as earliest in thread...easy to get them to early, too late, strain dependent also..have had too early ones myself, and spacing issues....and, as always, as earlier...if not working the same thing all the time, kind of always fighting the curve on them.....(ie: Different thing, different seasons, different spots......never going to get them perfect every time....)

Clones would of course be different....(but a new set of issues...ie: Getting them in to small, getting them in too large, timing them right, etc......but again depends on what your working with (strain dependent)....

Talking to many this week about a good day when I abandoned the search for "perfection"......

Everybody wants to do everything right. Everybody wants to walk through life free of error. We work so hard to avoid any "mistakes", when, in reality? :smoke:

Never will happen for any of us...Simply not possible to be "perfect" 100% of the time in every matter of life.....

Talking with significant parties a lot lately, (future endeavors) and, potential/possibilities of "problems" came up......(what if, what about, etc)....

My response , (to their initial amazement :smoke: ) was: Absolutely, a lot of them, you bet your ass...but then went on to explain such is the nature of many things in life......and the problem is not the event or occurrence, the "problem" is when such is unexpected and lack of solutions present, ability to address them, work around, or even with them...

Point being (of course there's a point :biglaugh:) each and every approach carries it's own set of nuances, and all of value for different situations and scenarios.....so, always have to keep in mind...(The flip side would be someone who on their first run gets them perfect, and then of course assumed they have it down, but the following season may change up spots, strains, and so on, and have the above (which I've had also)....so....you know....each and every thing we all ever do does yield something much greater than itself.....(in experience, etc,......)


Mr. Stinky said:
haha funny how we can be so far apart, but walk the same path.:tiphat: glad to hear your keepin yourself off the block, and getting in the legal game. i might even have you beat this time buddy! it will be a sweet day when i can cut ties with all illegal activity, and just do my thing on a salary. that day is just around the corner:yay:

this thread needs pics!!
Well.......I'm been keeping silent for several reasons, but, don't be so sure :smoke:.....I'm getting much more done and accomplished even daily than I am sharing with anyone :smoke:....putting in outrageous amounts of time on things (up to 200hrs. at a time, etc), and, all coming together even better than I could dream at times....:smoke: But, glad you can say that....I'm already living a life I could only have dreamed of....with a new dream(s) coming true every day.....and, the best I could wish anyone is to have and know the happiness and joy I go through every day with.....

There will be some fun pics coming up here or elsewhere :smoke:....

(Another reason silent is due to the way the world works....might still be quite a few changes last minute on many things, so....don't want to give anything a lead in....would rather just wait until ready to share.....)

Hope you get what you want, what your after....and lately of the mind that if one indeed works to no end towards such, only a matter of time........Sometimes a very long and tiring road, and, in the process, have contemplated how many people give up when almost there (have seen it first hand many times)......and, learned myself first hand......you can remove the "If" automatically just by not allowing yourself to give up.....

I removed the if, and the when came....(granted...in it's own due time......and now see, as earlier.....was and is a reason for every obstacle, delay.....lull.......and in the process allowed myself to understand that, to not question or fight that, and trust for a greater reason.....

Right now?.....everything better than I could have hoped for even 2 weeks ago......let alone a month, 2 months, and so on.....

Quick note related to the above: If I would have gotten everything I asked for and wanted even 1 month ago?......wouldn't have been the same.......at all.........the time was for me......

Take delays and such in stride and use them for yourself.....because many things might change along the way (for the better)......

I gave the universe credit for something yesterday, and someone claimed credit for it.....(until I pointed out to them, they are, just as I am, but mere tools of the universe........and actually, the credit they took was for an action I requested of them in the first place :smoke: (I ask them to do something, turns out well, then they take credit for doing something which turned out great :smoke:....)

Likewise........I was prepared for quite a while that this may not be the path for me....what life intends.....and assumed if the case?, then life would make such clear one way or another......

Anyway.......right now, things coming together better than I could have hoped even a week ago....People involved actually people I really like, love/will love working with (a big thing....seriously...)......and, as such....may very well even work out better than I dreamed to begin with...

I once read something regarding life, people,and musical notes:
Something to the effect of:
One can play 2 or more notes together, and have a terrible mess......

Yet play 2 or more correct notes in unison, and it creates beauty, harmony, etc.....

Even through a lot of bad things, have always stood by the importance and significance of other in striving to do something greater.....

A team of mismatched people?......well, we all know what comes of it......

A team of compatible people on many/different levels?......well....may very well create something greater than was previously imagined...

Anyway........obvious what mode I am in...:smoke:, but, feel all above very important....to many.....

How, why?: The above matters have/are the source of me realizing things which were only just thoughts,ideas, dreams...

Couldn't have done it without understanding and realizing the above, so...I think pretty important :smoke:


argoagro said:
OK, so on to the silly question. In the 2lb's or so of seeds, I have yanked out about a hundred that fit into a few different visual categories (Which I will mark & track over season, as curiosity). Mainly: tiger striped, more leafy vein appearance, the biggest ones, and some reddish brown ones.

Is there any visual clues in the seeds that could help me know if some are more indica or sativa based?
Well, I think in dealing with certain, 100% and known, it would be smaller sativas, larger indicas, but, of course, any crossing of the two can change that.....and you wouldn't really know until grown out, so....I wouldn't do selection based only on seed size....Just can't see that working out 100%.....

(Cross a 100% sativa with a 100% indica, and, I doubt anyone could identify from the resulting stock what will be what from seed size...ya know?.....)

Note: One might very well be able to separate the largest from the smallest, but,a. would both be pure, and then b., what about everything in between :smoke:...(could have largest with some sativa in the mix somewhere, and could very well have smaller, but with some indica in there, etc......and then I assume (not my primary) would of course run into later recessive later generational issues in that offspring, and on and on...(again, not my primary, but, believe the above would be the case......(My laymans explanation to people always the analogy of an interracial couple and 1,000 children....many things might be assumed, many things upon birth assumed, but few might display what the adult will be, let alone their future generations hold, etc....)

Breeding not my primary area, but, I think the above is the case....

Anyway......hope all are well........I'm in final run now myself.....

Still quite a few things in the air, but, at least they're now in the air :biglaugh:...pretty much everything I want(ed), so.....:smoke:.....now have to work with time......and allow the universe to let it unfold in it's own time......:smoke:

Hope all are well........hope all are coming along, and, as someone told me :smoke:, hope all are enjoying it....

We get busy, we work and work and work, and, at least for me.....in the past, I've forgotten to simply, just enjoy it :smoke:

I definitely am.....life is just amazing, and, this game is just miraculous.......truly.....

I wish all the awe and wonder at life that I've been blessed to discover.........

Think this is going to have to....something........cause think guerrilla days are over......(the one door closes thing.......etc).......still wrestling with the not being able to do anything illegal ever again...:biglaugh:......in some ways the light of god and the songs of angles thing....in other ways?...ehh.....I can live with it I think :biglaugh:.....

I guesss..........:smoke:.....
 
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Mr. Stinky

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couldnt agree more. to be the man standing in this spot, at this time, with the opportunity and ability i have is monumental luck. :tiphat: now, only to seize it...
 

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legitimate, its a powerful word and its what i want when this season comes to a close.

to open up a med shop with funds from this grow, to use those profits to buy property,
to use the equity to start an even larger company that employs hundreds of workers..... who are proud to be apart of that company because of what it will stand for, and how it respects and appreciates their work.

ive got allot riding on this season.., it means freedomto do what i want to do, because i hate taking orders from a dumb ASS.

it gets hard for me sometimes..... to stay motivated, maintain hope, stay optimistic... sometimes the demons drain my energy!.... depression is a killer.

what i do is read this tread......
julian has a way of motivating... i think its called leadership... its what leaders of men used 1000 years ago to conquer nations......
its what a man can say to another man to cause him to conquer his fears....

and but for the grace of god, there i go.

i do something everyday, no matter how small, that will get me closer to achieving my goal......and today i have to fit a hose pipe to a barrel in order to water my plots..
keep it up julian, im listening
 

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Mr. Stinky said:
couldnt agree more. to be the man standing in this spot, at this time, with the opportunity and ability i have is monumental luck. now, only to seize it...
I think the thought process above alone priceless and speaks volumes.....

You know...many can say whatever they like about many angles...truly, and, I don't know about any one else, but, my lifetime? I've heard it all brother......on street since mid teens, 7 figures from late teens, and in late 30's/early 40's now, so....ain't my first rodeo by any means : :smoke:.....

That being said
?........the power of thought, words, and lines in the sand (psychological) never truly apparent to me until the last 3 years max....(yeah, sure....I alwaqys knew, blah,blah,blah.....have had I Ching and Art of War on hand last 10-20 yrs........but the true power of such....not until lately...

Really......I could go on, but wouldn't know where to start.....

The biggest thing lately removing "If"....

I've held the stance a good 15-20 yrs: The most powerful force in the universe is the human mind......

Life lately showing me so many things....granted..."I knew".......but, not really....and didn't apply with ferocity :smoke:......

I'm doing a lot more than I ever mention (as always :smoke:), and, truly.....the only reason any of it's possible is due to a change in me...

(Note:........Most in real life don't even know what's mentioned here, let alone more.......because it's all just.......I don't know.....(see, old mindset)....just insane on the surface...truly....(But all real, happening as we speak....:smoke:) But......to most?......(another interesting aspect).....so far beyond traditional beliefs it's not even funny :smoke:...(When broken down step by step?......nothing unusual....I could usually explain everything to a smart 5 year old.....

Hmmmmm....:smoke: (Note: Children usually because they have not learned yet what "is possible/not possible"........)

(Programmed of course by all the 9-5'ers ...)

I wish you the best of luck........I wish upon you (and everyone else) all that is desired.....and needed..........

There are few true limitations...most come down to budget first..........then everything else :smoke:

Started on something quite expansive.,....we'll see if I can not explore such :smoke:.......

I believe this to be a time of more opportunities than most even think possible regarding this industry....(I myself probably don't even understand how wide current direction can go.....and it's 100% my deal...ya know?.........)

I wish all the best.....and also wish enough time to cover all the aspects..(thinking about it..how to address.......in the best manner......Really think a lot here could gain quite a bit....I certainly have and continue to....on many levels....and, life just getting better (even when it's not)......

I worked long and hard on thought processes.....and......really...what's on plate right now farther than I could have ever dreamed of achieving in the world in my lifetime.........

All due to a couple changes in thought......(work/all thing being equal.....)

Can't fuckin wait to share what and when I can.....

The above is a great mindset (yours)........Throw in that you can't even begin to imagine true possibilities and you'll really be underway... (Me too.......and what keeps things flowing :smoke:.....growing........evolving.......)

Take everything you think you could achieve given 100% optimal in lifetime?

And toss that shit right out the window brother......:smoke:

And then still not a clue what we're capable of :smoke:...(Small hint: What I have done in last 90 days is more than I achieved my entire lifetime (legit and not)...

60 days
out of life.....surpassed almost 30 years...

Possibilities?......

I now realize there are none...(those were my self imposed little things, drawn from others over a lifetime.....)

(And spoken by someone at 7 figures before 20....and back again several times.....several multi million dollar business's from scratch and maintained over a decade, etc.......)

I still didn't have a clue :smoke:.......


HOVAH2.0 said:
legitimate, its a powerful word and its what i want when this season comes to a close.

to open up a med shop with funds from this grow, to use those profits to buy property,
to use the equity to start an even larger company that employs hundreds of workers..... who are proud to be apart of that company because of what it will stand for, and how it respects and appreciates their work.

what i do is read this tread......
julian has a way of motivating... i think its called leadership... its what leaders of men used 1000 years ago to conquer nations......
its what a man can say to another man to cause him to conquer his fears....

and but for the grace of god, there i go.

i do something everyday, no matter how small, that will get me closer to achieving my goal......and today i have to fit a hose pipe to a barrel in order to water my plots..
keep it up julian, im listening
I'm speechless and humbled......and your post triggered the train of thought above......

To me?......true "power" was always jobs.......and I think always will be...and, while many changes discussed above,.......that one hasn't.......

I pointed that out to an associate/investor recently.......I think last thing on their mind...and never even gave it a single thought......(most only think about single season....don't even have the foresight to see more than a season let alone job creation, etc........Wish I could address what I am working on more.....(actual positions opened by New years 11', and 2012........)

I don't want to address too many (any) of my personal specifics regarding the above.....(shops/retail/d's) but in "the whole scheme of things"...laughably obtainable........seriously......
it gets hard for me sometimes..... to stay motivated, maintain hope, stay optimistic... sometimes the demons drain my energy!.... depression is a killer.
Same for all I think......I get it a lot...(stay positive, moving forward 24/7)....can't be maintained 365.........they simply are (those down moments).........take them for what they are........

Not the demons draining brother......

It's ourselves ......(the programming resurfacing......:smoke:)......

I really wanted to address quite a bit more......(and thought how able to)......but,limited on time......

Had/has to do with a lot of the above, and, specifically, how we (all people) tend to automatically scale our thinking....ie: People automatically have levels which something is possible, and then not.........discussed recently with several about the aspects of abandoning those self imposed limits....

Really....wish I could (now) share more.....and, sure I will in future........but a lot about how now everything I'm doing/involved in is past my old set of what is/what is not "possible"....

Only change was me.......my thoughts......nothing else external has changed in the process....Nothing.

To me some very interesting shit....(also brings many other changes across the board....by products :smoke:)....

Will get to more later....but, thank you for kind words........I think will be determined.........lot of stuff in motion to test the above :smoke:.........we'll see..........undertakings now more than I ever dreamed I could be capable of in my lifetime.......(even more developed which I can't even touch right now.......sounds absurd to even me sometimes, so...I'm sitting on that shit for now.....and the only one who knows is me :smoke:........but, all coming up soon.......day when I break it (even in life to closest) will be a good day........ie: Transition and changeover official.........:smoke:...any day now :smoke:.....

Speechless man...and humbled.....I do what I do here only to help another, so.....as long as that is achieved...I'm good........These days?......much of my life is done "for free".......(even if far from...).......Money the last thing on my mind.......couldn't care less.....(and less than I've ever had, but on verge of more than I ever dreamed)..........Hope your right :smoke;.....

Fuck.....some fuckin great stories to share lately...........really....wish I could but, truly.....would just sound absurd, so....waiting till all the dust settles.......:smoke:

(I deleted a bunch.......more to come........a lot about mindset.......)

What is possible is what you decide is/is not possible....

All about "scaling" ones Mindset......

More to come...:smoke:........Hope all are well....know many into (well into) upcoming season.......know many surpassing previous...........

Best of luck......(and more to add on scaling expectations :smoke:....)

You think little, you get little,.....

No way around it :smoke:.......is what it is.......

You remove those (again, self imposed) factors all of us have?.....

You break into a whole new level....

You want a shop?......start shopping for one.....start going through process for one....designing one.......budgets, numbers, build outs, etc....

Done........no problem.....it's not launching a lunar exploration :smoke:.......

Why only 1?.......why not 5?....why not 5 self sufficient.....why not 10? :smoke:.....

More fun stuff later..........(guaranteed...:smoke:)......
 
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swicker

Boy can't wait buddy, been following you for a little over a year now and can't wait to hear about your future endeavors. Just graduated from a top notch university and want to send you my resume, working up my post counts just so i can do that lol. Would absolutely love to work under a boss with your mindset. Makes me giddy inside to think that this is possible not if. :smoke:
 

Julian

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Well, thank you....but most find me intolerable to work with.......but West and certain environments are seeming to be quite a bit less.....(And everyone here close enough knows my 5 year rule for the boards.... :smoke: only a handful have made it before I changed that to the 7 year rule :smoke:.....)

I'd say use the paper the right way....unless the major was in Botany/Horticulture :smoke: (Or Securities Law....or accounting......or business administration......:biglaugh:)

Can't share......even anything at all.....(Did....and deleted......twice :biglaugh:)

Anyway.......Thanks man......very kind of you to say.....glad that I convey such....(Majority what I hear is the opposite, and, think I get a bad rap :biglaugh:)

Wanted to add more in addition to the above (scaling, mindset, limitations, etc), but, have another example that can't share either....can't even give a hint......probably for the better.....majority of what I am doing over the head of most.....(was over mine....all my life until recently......:smoke:....)

Maybe not completely though.......

Seems to me (fuck....I'm going ahead anyway :biglaugh:)....

Seems to me...that most go through their lives, working day in, and day out.....sometimes just surviving....sometimes making some good money in something of some substance..

And that's all.......

Of course everyone likes to dream of bigger things.....(Fuck......I missed a post and just now addressed privately above how this thread itself seems "too much fantasy" :biglaugh:)...

My response was basically they should get out a little more and work a little more.....I forgot to offer my amazement at such a sheltered life also...but another time, I'm sure :smoke:....

Back to the above.......
Everyone, even those doing well.....they all have dreams......

Early, early in thread......I never really had much tolerance for such.

Why?.........why not. :smoke: To sit and listen to people "dream"....I have no patience.....and likewise, it's just as easy sitting and discussing exactly how to reach or even surpass that dream....

(Even people who would speak of winning a lotto don't even fuckin play it.....:biglaugh:)

There is no task......there is no position on earth that cannot be broken down to the exact process...

I myself......who speaks the above, and always have...have found that while my position was the above....I still retained imaginary limits.....

(Again....hard to share and give an example(s) without specifics.....but sure point is being made/getting there)

Let's use the above. A shop........(okay, okay....think onto good example here....)

If he was to say a shop.....there are many who would find that ridiculous....(no reason...can be done, has 3,000 times before in many states......)

Now...(Scaling....)

Let's use the example:
"I want to own the largest chain of shops in the US...."

Many would automatically reject that statement, and then question posters psyche....

Ahhh.....but then it gets fun.....in that they may not know the resources or abilities or experience of that individual........(Scaling works both ways :smoke:....and a good tool to show you others intelligence, vision, ambition, understanding, etc......)

But yet they would still dismiss......

The rational line of questioning such after such a statement would lie in the area of specifics, resources, approach and on and on......(and then, still....even if all in line, there are still many who would question.....)

Ahh.....but it even gets more fun:
Those who would question further, if even everything in line, most likely not even close to such an achievement....(not ever imagined such.......why?...:smoke:....We're discussing why :smoke:)

Not to mention....as very early.....most would end up discussing such with people not in the position to even offer a valid opinion.......(People........we always seek the opinion(s) and approval(s) of those close to us....unable to help, assist, finance, etc, in any way, and many even holding those opinions tight enough to even determine their progress (or ceasing....:smoke:)

Hmmm......That analogy actually turned out quite well I think :smoke:..

Personal note:I think anyone is a long way from claiming such, even those who might be (because tomorrow, they might be surpassed, and the week after they might be, and so on......I think a long way for everyone to go to see how this game all ends up legally .......well.......unless certain people or groups do certain things......and so on :smoke:......)

(Debating if I should just blurt it out :biglaugh:.....secondary.....in addition to green related.....)

Anyway........sure point is made......(one of.....and, not really addressed but had a call that ruined that train of thought, so........)

Largest chain in America........food related?, fuck, I can think of 20 of em :biglaugh: (and I believe every one started by a single man ......and most would say with very little or nothing probably.........)

Me personally?......I've always set goals far too high in the past......

Some would say "seeeee........and?"....

And?. And if I shoot for 100, and only end up with 46, or 64, or 75? but someone says they want 5, and end up with 2?, whose better off.....(The wannabe's jump up and down when you can't meet a lofty target.....always...always have, and always will.....and speaking of "always".....always quite interesting, as the very same most often achieving nothing whatsoever.....

That example also was not anything specific.....call it dollars....call it whatever you like...point is as above.

I suppose some things can never apply to everyone.....that any given limiting factor could prohibit someone from any given specific of any undertaking, in any industry.......and there is nothing any of us could ever share that would change that.....

But for some?.....a single thought tomorrow might change that.(I was one of them.....I'm entering a world and things never thought possible even a month ago....for myself....for various reasons.....

I have......as above.......done more in the last 60-90 days than in my entire life working weeks upon weeks at a time...stress.....and on and on......

(More?....well......a series of small acts and time which created opportunity(ies) greater than I have ever accomplished, known, thought possible......etc.....)

All boil down to 2 moments.....

Both?.......limitations were not the first reaction (as the majority of people will do, and I always had also......), but exploring as above and breaking down and seeing entirely possible......with a good set of if's to accompany, but, those if's being things which can be addressed and overcome......(not "if I was 2 feet taller" :biglaugh:, but more if a certain amount can be reached.....if a certain meeting can be arranged, and so on......

Anyway...........

Looking forward to sharing what I can........have pretty much exhausted my patience, so.....hope it's soon.....(Maybe my patience needs to be exhausted.........I'm good with whatever takes place in future....whatever the direction and final is good with me.....I'm good with that)

Note: The above example of the shops just a random example.....but I guarantee if that's what someone wanted......with sufficient capital/profit to do such, I could accomplish it :smoke: (As could many others probably with greater capital and profits.......unless they, like many, just couldn't follow it through :smoke:.....)

Side note:
More than a few who have been pitched fully intend on completely ripping me off....(They have received full written presentation, investor packages, outlines, budgets, overviews...)

I welcome each and every one and sleep well every night.....

(I can only follow through on all my matters due to 100's of hours at a time working, without sleep, research, calls, emails.....etc.....just for starters, so.....yet another aspect of things, life.....etc......recognizing limitations, different grasps of different tasks, subjects, and on and on, and proceeding accordingly, etc....)

Not to mention those little problems which arise which may call for a complete change in direction....being flexible....resourceful..., so.......(I guess another good example.....the small people (in mind) will most certainly take the above in the least flattering way(s), but mere point being a persons vision, drive, command of subjects involved in project, etc......can't always be fully executed by another lacking anything contained within......

Hmmm........seems a rough analogy on the smallest scale for the above might be Martha Stewart trying to replicate KFC original from scratch......

Note: Where the line is drawn between those who state such things and those actually able to carry them out in extreme detail is usually fairly obvious......but not always to the one desiring such.....but sorted out in the end by all of us through actions taken, etc.....(Someone not capable stops at the brick wall while those capable run off and disappear..........)

(Of course, unseen to most......they either disappeared to find a phone and make a call to so and so's friend to make a deal to bring and use the ladder to get over, or, maybe, just disappeared because a couple hundred feet down might be a hole in the wall, or a dead tree which can be pushed down against the wall, or so on :smoke:.....)

I'm seriously contemplating the addition of a consulting firm.....ie: When your finally tired of sitting and trying to determine how something should be done, or even if it can, hire us to show you how :smoke:....

But..........all in alllll?.....

We'll see
 

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Well thanks man......very kind of you to say...and back at cha for finding it of value...:smoke:

I was.....couple times......but not again quite yet.....:smoke:

We'll see :smoke:...



Further notes:
A lot seem to be blind to their own limitations.....(I can think of 20+ different things this second that I need others for , for various reasons.....some things I just don't like to do.....others can't do everything at once, and, many?...many others due to their skill sets and knowledge in specific areas being greater than my own in the same areas....

People?.....

Most give up easily from the start when reaching an area beyond their skill set.....some don't....but then don't realize the key is in others.....and, the worst?.....the worst are those who don't see their boundaries at all and push ahead........not acknowledging such....let alone putting in place a way to proceed ahead despite a shortcoming in a specific area.....

Important note:
Then there are some who very well might acknowledge such.....but be unable to come up with the proper way to proceed.....a solution to overcome....etc.....and get lost within a direction or project......

Let's revisit the above for a second.......thought of something....

Instead of "largest chain in US", let's try an even better one:
"1,000 shops in US".......

To some?, many?....most?.......just as "bad" as original statement, and actually maybe even worse :biglaugh:....

Except
........:smoke:.......except.........an extremely clear overview can be applied to that specific number....(actually much easier to address than "largest in US"......)

Every single aspect can be broken down......to the penny...to prep and turnaround of new/additional facilities established, and on and on...

(Just an example....of course....numerous problems with that specific number....but, point is made......)

Poster above........6k.......we all know first hand the sheer number of people in the world who would gasp at such....(But he might be planning a 20 in future, and as we speak others are setting up their 3rd 100k, and then there are those running 1,000+ k's laughing at the guys on their 3rd 100k....:smoke:......)

We all have a challenge:
To either make our world a smaller place, or let it remain a larger one.....:smoke:

Here's an additional note:
The only thing which determines such is ones own mind...:smoke:

(And, I think every day how fuckin cool that is :biglaugh:.....)

:smoke:
 
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Rob547

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Glad everything is going great for you Julian. I don't know if I would necessarily agree with your statement that people that are unaware of their limitations are worse than others that give up facing a real challenge, ambition is key to many.... its just that in this business you can get really fucked for doing so, but in regards to other things I would disagree. (unfortunately I am one of those acknowledge facts but get lost in the execution)
Anyway, an aspiring post as always man, mad props and stay safe!
 

Julian

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Thanks man...hope all is well with you and yours also....

Corrected the above...2nd should have been a don't, and, the meaning of that (worst being those who push ahead despite) addressing how such in itself can create problems which prevent anything positive from happening, in many ways (applies to any industry)....

Mmmmm....for example.....someone wanting a store but incapable in every way of design.... :biglaugh:.....or, sayyyy....a painter, but who's color blind :biglaugh:.....(Okay, now I'm just having fun....) or someone wanting to charter boats but gets seasick.....and on and on......Likewise....the same could/would apply to anything regarding pitching.....(If one aspect is off, you've lost em.....My biggest problem pitching, was just pitching wrong people.....thank god....got a lot of practice, whole thing evolved, and so on.....)

So....worse/t I suppose was my own little personal opinion....but same results as giving up......ie: Project dead due to ones own hand.....

Same result, but worse :smoke:.....in the sense that was going....was moving forward, but failure to address weak areas killed it in mid stream...

(From reading through, that I believe is where I was taking it......yes, appears to be :biglaugh:)...everything could be fine....everything could be inline, but, moving ahead over an area beyond ones skill set pretty unwise :smoke:....(especially this game....which could result in 100 different losses and setbacks.....)

Thanks man....glad of interest....

Btw...:smoke:
(unfortunately I am one of those acknowledge facts but get lost in the execution)
Already half the battle.....identify which spot of whatever process, at which point, on which subject....between which points/procedures are problem areas......

The address viable options for such...(Can be applied to anything, any task, any industry......)....(as I start to pick shit out of the air......)

Let's say.....fuck.......an entertainment agency specializing in actors and entertainers under 4'....:biglaugh:......(bear with me)......

You have many contacts in the.....community of........shorter people.......:biglaugh:

But your weakness is......accounting for example :biglaugh:.....(whatever...I picked the first shit I could think of :biglaugh:)...but nevertheless, a valid point....

One would seek the services of accountants....and so on, for all matters related.....etc....(or for the silliness above.....seek the appropriate for space design, or someone to handle the boats (charters).....,and on and on.....(or, for that matter, seek remedies for seasickness, and get captains license to do them ones self, etc....if applicable..(I think nautical fine print is for certain number of people, for hire, captains license, etc......which would be another example for the above......seeking out and becoming well versed on such paid jobs..(boats), etc)......(As I start to work my way through how one would start a charter service, etc :biglaugh:.......)

But then again....lot of reasons why we do what we do and are what we are and where and when we are......maybe any of us in such a position is actually in a learning spot in life......ie: Maybe you have to adjust a behavior, learn something, etc related to the point which you get caught up in/at......(Only you would know exactly.....)

Just sayin :smoke:.....

Thanks man....I'm alright.....stayin safe :smoke:.....would really like to wrap everything up and put a lot of things into motion, and, likewise, behind me....and address everything in front...move forward, etc........

Further notes and thoughts.....just occurred to me....
All my stuff?.....everything?.....everywhere?......

There is, has been nothing to question in my activities....(overviews, financials, approaches, methods....in pitches........anything....)...Why?...cause in any area of question I defer to others much more well versed in any given matter...(Granted....I go ahead, and spend days upon days on almost everything....but, in the end?, I still run it by whoever I have to, and, as above, go with their expertise....sometimes, in some ways, that's actually the easiest for me, and I can get the best ideas......ie: I want to do this, and this, this way, and this way....what do I need to do it?......How do we have to ____ to do it...etc...

Good topic:
Was with some people this week, taking about options....

Several had brought up they made statements to others to the effect of " Can we do this"?

Answer was "No"......

So we discussed (My suggestion) instead stating it "How do we do this"......or "This is what I want, how do we do it"?

Most people will never push it further......most will never complicate something on purpose...

Of course the basics go back I assume decades......(management psychology?.....creative industry psychology?......)....ie" Don't tell me we can't do it, tell me how we can"...etc.....

Point being, being one step ahead of others, and not even wording it so as to give them the option it can't be done...

Final agreement was unanimous :smoke:......

Definitely never give them an option.....:smoke:....

Would really help if I could get deeper into specifics, but, no can do....:smoke:...

Sure points made, and, some good ones I think :smoke:.....

Have another great story about the above....but, definitely can't relay it, cause would give away a lot of specifics......would have to, to fully explain.....(3 different attorneys insisted I couldn't do something, until I explained to them how/possible ways to do it.... :smoke:....)

Then.....they said absolutely......:smoke:....

(Granted......this was not their areas of expertise....but, as above.....they provided a position and commentary beyond the scope of their expertise......so.......the above , indeed, applies to every industry and field :smoke:)

All day, every day...:smoke:...

Lot of that going/goes around ya know.....:smoke:
 
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bentom187

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i havnt read much of this thread but i can tell your into eastern philosiphy and phsycology,so here a good book im reading,i recomend it the title sounds more devious then whats actually in it,its call mind minipulation ancient and modern ninja techniques,and my next book is going to be myamoto musashi's 5 rings.i also have 2 of bruce lee's books tao of jeet kune do and art of expressing the human body all are excellent,and the mind minipulation book is by a man call dr.Haha Lung hes got a bunch of phycology books you should check these out,i found all these books very applicable to everyday life.
 
I've been doing late season minis for the past 3 years since I first started reading this ginormous thread. Julian, you've done a great service w/ the wealth of info you've dropped on countless amounts of people including myself in regards to everything from minis to money laundering! I'm at about 35 deg N, and have been putting out heavy yielding indicas usually around the first of august due to late planning. By Halloween they're 2-3', completely mature and ready to be chopped. I've had really great results for the most part, considering I just set and forget w/ all clones. This year I was able to get my ducks in a row, and have 2 3' trained moms that take up a full 4x4 under 1k watts. I'd really like to go ahead and take advantage of the thousand t/- clones I can take immediately. Big plants would be great, but w/ this strain it has shown every year that it loves to get mold in flowering. I know I can top them to help combat this problem, but I don't really like revisiting spots unless completely necessary. Basically, I'd love to utilize these next 6 months to the fullest w/o having to worry about moldy, preflowering, large plants that can be easily spotted. My strain is perfect for minis averaging 1/2-1 plus oz, and a 8 week flowering time outdoors. Is there a method to put them out now and send them straight into flowering(w/o revegging), thus having up to 3 possible harvests per plot, per season? Or knowing my circumstances, should I just crank up the co2, add a few more 1k's, and wait till about mid june to start cutting clones for mid-late season minis? I wish I had an af strain, but I've got to work w/ what I have. Thanks for any info you have for me!
 

Mr. Stinky

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just wait till june-july. all the methods for flowering now are very labor intensive. at 36* you could have started some in 12/12 about march1, then put them out to finish, but the days are too long now. if you wait, you can do 10 times the amount of clones for about the same amount of labor.

af strains have to be done from seed, so they have their own drawbacks. they arent as hardy as your clones will be either. i dont know why tho. they dont seem to have the strength and vigor of regular light sensitive cannabis.
 
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Allow me to answer your questions, in order.
1. read a lot (this whole thread for starters)
2. you should know growing cannabis may be illegal
3. DO: keep your mouth shut. DON'T: get caught
HTH :bump:
 
Thanks man...hope all is well with you and yours also....

Corrected the above...2nd should have been a don't, and, the meaning of that (worst being those who push ahead despite) addressing how such in itself can create problems which prevent anything positive from happening, in many ways (applies to any industry)....

Mmmmm....for example.....someone wanting a store but incapable in every way of design.... :biglaugh:.....or, sayyyy....a painter, but who's color blind :biglaugh:.....(Okay, now I'm just having fun....) or someone wanting to charter boats but gets seasick.....and on and on......Likewise....the same could/would apply to anything regarding pitching.....(If one aspect is off, you've lost em.....My biggest problem pitching, was just pitching wrong people.....thank god....got a lot of practice, whole thing evolved, and so on.....)

So....worse/t I suppose was my own little personal opinion....but same results as giving up......ie: Project dead due to ones own hand.....

Same result, but worse :smoke:.....in the sense that was going....was moving forward, but failure to address weak areas killed it in mid stream...

(From reading through, that I believe is where I was taking it......yes, appears to be :biglaugh:)...everything could be fine....everything could be inline, but, moving ahead over an area beyond ones skill set pretty unwise :smoke:....(especially this game....which could result in 100 different losses and setbacks.....)

Thanks man....glad of interest....

Btw...:smoke:
Already half the battle.....identify which spot of whatever process, at which point, on which subject....between which points/procedures are problem areas......

The address viable options for such...(Can be applied to anything, any task, any industry......)....(as I start to pick shit out of the air......)

Let's say.....fuck.......an entertainment agency specializing in actors and entertainers under 4'....:biglaugh:......(bear with me)......

You have many contacts in the.....community of........shorter people.......:biglaugh:

But your weakness is......accounting for example :biglaugh:.....(whatever...I picked the first shit I could think of :biglaugh:)...but nevertheless, a valid point....

One would seek the services of accountants....and so on, for all matters related.....etc....(or for the silliness above.....seek the appropriate for space design, or someone to handle the boats (charters).....,and on and on.....(or, for that matter, seek remedies for seasickness, and get captains license to do them ones self, etc....if applicable..(I think nautical fine print is for certain number of people, for hire, captains license, etc......which would be another example for the above......seeking out and becoming well versed on such paid jobs..(boats), etc)......(As I start to work my way through how one would start a charter service, etc :biglaugh:.......)

But then again....lot of reasons why we do what we do and are what we are and where and when we are......maybe any of us in such a position is actually in a learning spot in life......ie: Maybe you have to adjust a behavior, learn something, etc related to the point which you get caught up in/at......(Only you would know exactly.....)

Just sayin :smoke:.....

Thanks man....I'm alright.....stayin safe :smoke:.....would really like to wrap everything up and put a lot of things into motion, and, likewise, behind me....and address everything in front...move forward, etc........

Further notes and thoughts.....just occurred to me....
All my stuff?.....everything?.....everywhere?......

There is, has been nothing to question in my activities....(overviews, financials, approaches, methods....in pitches........anything....)...Why?...cause in any area of question I defer to others much more well versed in any given matter...(Granted....I go ahead, and spend days upon days on almost everything....but, in the end?, I still run it by whoever I have to, and, as above, go with their expertise....sometimes, in some ways, that's actually the easiest for me, and I can get the best ideas......ie: I want to do this, and this, this way, and this way....what do I need to do it?......How do we have to ____ to do it...etc...

Good topic:
Was with some people this week, taking about options....

Several had brought up they made statements to others to the effect of " Can we do this"?

Answer was "No"......

So we discussed (My suggestion) instead stating it "How do we do this"......or "This is what I want, how do we do it"?

Most people will never push it further......most will never complicate something on purpose...

Of course the basics go back I assume decades......(management psychology?.....creative industry psychology?......)....ie" Don't tell me we can't do it, tell me how we can"...etc.....

Point being, being one step ahead of others, and not even wording it so as to give them the option it can't be done...

Final agreement was unanimous :smoke:......

Definitely never give them an option.....:smoke:....

Would really help if I could get deeper into specifics, but, no can do....:smoke:...

Sure points made, and, some good ones I think :smoke:.....

Have another great story about the above....but, definitely can't relay it, cause would give away a lot of specifics......would have to, to fully explain.....(3 different attorneys insisted I couldn't do something, until I explained to them how/possible ways to do it.... :smoke:....)

Then.....they said absolutely......:smoke:....

(Granted......this was not their areas of expertise....but, as above.....they provided a position and commentary beyond the scope of their expertise......so.......the above , indeed, applies to every industry and field :smoke:)

All day, every day...:smoke:...

Lot of that going/goes around ya know.....:smoke:
do you have obsessive compulsive disorder?...no offense intended..just an observation..
 

Julian

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The intelligent would have observed the point, no offense intended. Just an observation of course.

When you've accomplished a fraction of anyone in this thread, your welcome to make another.

Sorry to hear about your 5 plants that failed under the 150w btw after 4.5 months......Just another one of those observations......
 

nomaad

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Is there a method to put them out now and send them straight into flowering(w/o revegging), thus having up to 3 possible harvests per plot, per season?

There is a technique, but it would not suit guerrilla growing. check out the beggining of my 09 OD thread and read up on Light Deprivation/Black Box/Forced flowering. You'd have to be there to pull tarp twoce a day. Probably not what u are looking for...

One other possibility: Autoflowers.

Hola Julian. Hope your season is a good one, bro.
 
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