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Hindu Killer

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Just waiting .....for the season to come to a close. Probably did talk myself out of it ...thats a good point..more follow threw. Its time to be figureing out my drying situation....about 3 wks or so left. Glade every one is doing well.
 

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Hindu Killer said:
Just waiting .....for the season to come to a close.
Almost there.......pulled out the black marker today actually... :smoke:.....(I use full wall calenders.......all 12 months right there in front of you at all times........pulling out the marker felt good :smoke:......I do that all year for a lot of things....(planting targets, schedules, trips to remember when was where sometimes, etc....but this time....this time, was for cutting :smoke:....)
Probably did talk myself out of it ...thats a good point..more follow threw.
We all do it at sometimes or another for one thing or another.....(I mean, you did say you assumed wouldn't work :smoke:.....)....and, as you see....I mean, worked out well......so...that assumption cost......real weight.......a mere thought or action dictated a possible gain or loss and the outcome.....
Its time to be figureing out my drying situation....about 3 wks or so left. Glad every one is doing well.
Likewise.........I think I'm pushing a little longer though...(not sure......have been studying calender, marking things.......sill have to finalize.......change.....check weather...adjust...........)

(Needless to say that calender is a mess :biglaugh: :smoke:....and not too clear to start with :smoke:)
 
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I just had to post a lil laugh into this thread...

So the other day i went to visit my lady, she's the last of many not eaten by deer, bugs, etc etc.. I haven't been by in quite a few weeks. I always pace off my distance from a random spot so i can find my plots again... Well i walked by steps, made my turns... And look... and look.... and look.

Over 20 minutes go by and i'm thinking WTF i know i counted right... I'm lookiing for a 3-4 foot plant as i got her out really late.. mid july. So i'm standing there just scanning the bush and BAM.. there it is. TALLER than the tree i planted it next too rofl !!!! Pushing 7 feet !

I was amazed, gave her 2 gallons of 0-50-10, loved her a little and ran out muah !
 

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whats your opinion on planting tubes?? julian

seen this one thats 6.1cm in diameter and its like a dibber but you slide the pellet or w/e through. its used for tree planting...here is the URL

http://www.stuewe.com/products/tube.html

Wow ! thats a potiputki ( our finnish friends may help with spelling), tried to tree plant with such a thing years ago, but only useful for tough little conifers in Sand. Doesnt dig a hole really !!!
 
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Hmmmm.....more fun.......Didn't even think about that (But...........But...on second thought I wouldn't want to be throwing it anywhere (everywhere?) because, after all.........could be other people growing nearby....so......could then hit them heavy.......seed them up (and stock worthless), so..........I'm already prepping certain people on: "Do not use any seed from this"....

Of course we don't want to seed other peoples harvest, but in some places the chances that we'll ruin someones crop are slim to none.

Opens?...I didn't know they were closed.... (But I do know I haven't really seen any stock anywhere, for a while, so.......figured something was going on.....)

Yeah never closed, just run out of stock. But I see on their web site that Maroc, Easy Sativa and Purple Power are available. If I have enough funds I'll get the Maroc and try 24/0 to out.

I had their Grapefruit and liked it a lot (the smell I absolutely adore) crossed it out to Victory and wanted to run a few outdoors to see when they finish, but I'm afraid all turned out male. Maybe there is one at the river spot but I'm not sure...

I've talked to people about doing runs in Poland .....

And what did they say?
No choppers looking for weed :D Ex-prime minister doesn't know that marijuana is from hemp, 8 years for cultivation, 200g is a serious crime, even for 0.5g you get a court case, summers are beautiful but frost comes early, more land to plant than in Germany. I was following the police web site this year. The biggest bust was a 1000 plants in 4 greenhouses and made the news. Last year the news was a 100 acres field of low THC hemp and an old lady who got busted for cultivating some ganja for her nervous cow.
My friends are way to paranoid now but I'm sure I'm gonna run something in Poland one day.

I wouldn't consider a couple crosses here and there "breeding"...at this point just concerned with not losing it forever....which is going to happen unless I step up and do something about it quick, so....

Yeah, not proper breeding but a few crosses and preserving something is more than just "running stock". Also more fun in my mind.

And discussing, sharing etc. sure makes the thing even more fun.

With the pink stuff... you are sure they got hit with different pollen? Maybe the pink stuff was a hybrid and now in the F2 you just get much more variation than in the uniform F1 generation, kind of get to see the grandparents more in it.

Excitement is a very nice feeling :D
Glad to hear your worst season turns into the most fun one.

I had another day of full sun :D Forecast is good. I'm getting excited :biglaugh:

Good luck with the pink preservation project.
 
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vod said:
Of course we don't want to seed other peoples harvest, but in some places the chances that we'll ruin someones crop are slim to none.
True.....some places most likely not a chance....but, then again........whose to say for sure ......Strange things have happened, no? :smoke:...........(Spot I was just doing lot of people working the region........)
Yeah never closed, just run out of stock. But I see on their web site that Maroc, Easy Sativa and Purple Power are available. If I have enough funds I'll get the Maroc and try 24/0 to out.

I had their Grapefruit and liked it a lot (the smell I absolutely adore) crossed it out to Victory and wanted to run a few outdoors to see when they finish, but I'm afraid all turned out male. Maybe there is one at the river spot but I'm not sure...
Not sue about what listed on site......can't get it from them so check site(s) of distributors of their products, etc.....

Have heard nothing but good things about Grapefruit.....not sure why I passed on it before...could have been initial impressions about finish times, how they fit into the schedule (that I was thinking of that moment), maybe availability, maybe yield.......don't remember really...probably should have....

A note on stock run.......was talking to someone just today about the DP PPP......(last year first time I ran it I believe, and then this year....)..universal agreement from 3 different people was each time, each spot, each season.....while not the hardest core...has been the most popular, and,could easily pass as indoor.....ie: Very crisp and clean, smell "clean", strong, etc.......(The latter was more my addition from things I noticed about how it was received and comments.......so....PPP going to stay on the permanent list...(Have yet to run enough......last year first run/test run...this year only the S1 fems (all identical....it's very uniform...extremely....)

Another comment which I found very interesting also was the guy I put in charge of hashmaking (he took to it very well, so, I gave him more responsibility and volume, but, I still love running it so I help anyway :biglaugh:...) said the FMS PP produced very nice bubble......yield, quality, etc.....which, to be honest, I really didn't notice.....but, he stated such.....(someone who saved a lot, separated and jarred all the different grades and different strains, etc, etc...as I said.....he likes it, took to it very well :smoke:...so, I'm inclined to believe his opinion......(Also set him up with dry sift gear a while back, different screens, sizes, frames.....had him working basically half the year on a lot of things, so....
And what did they say?
No choppers looking for weed :D Ex-prime minister doesn't know that marijuana is from hemp, 8 years for cultivation, 200g is a serious crime, even for 0.5g you get a court case, summers are beautiful but frost comes early, more land to plant than in Germany. I was following the police web site this year. The biggest bust was a 1000 plants in 4 greenhouses and made the news. Last year the news was a 100 acres field of low THC hemp and an old lady who got busted for cultivating some ganja for her nervous cow.
My friends are way to paranoid now but I'm sure I'm gonna run something in Poland one day.
I would do 40 acres of trees almost anywhere, anytime if a 100% guarantee of no aerial issues, so :smoke:...

That one not as easy overall (at least for me) as say......somewhere South........for various reasons......but, I think mostly the support system which we know would be required......ie: Secure spot/land?.....sure...no problem....assemble a crew?.....think could be done....(time for he latter.....)...dumping it?....don't believe the support system there to make it worthwhile..(well, if you lived there, of course.....something like that I could spent 100k alone in airfare the first run....so....

Has been discussed......sure it will be again....(I know a lot of Europeans....so.....comes up every now and then.....they bring it up.....I get....well.....:biglaugh: serious....and kind of shows them the reality of it...(which kind of weeds out those not cut out for it...pun certainly intended :biglaugh:...One day conversation might continue for a while and....we'll see.....I think tremendous possibilities due to aerial issues (lack of....)......

Well see.......(Hell.....one large run.......commercial sealer and a walk in freezer might come out well :smoke:.......(or a laundromat outfitted to run it all through bags/screens :smoke:...)
Yeah, not proper breeding but a few crosses and preserving something is more than just "running stock". Also more fun in my mind.
Well.....I didn't think about it actually.....would be putting some thought into selection, desired traits.....resin, structure, finish time, flavor and such, so...but, eh, still think of it as just running stock.....
And discussing, sharing etc. sure makes the thing even more fun.
It does, doesn't it? :biglaugh: (Is that what contributes to the "excitement" about it?....end result...running the product, etc...yeah......if I can run a huge batch of some select fems.......I tell ya.......that gets me "excited"....(end result...yield...quality...etc...) It's truly an astounding product........and, as below:
With the pink stuff... you are sure they got hit with different pollen? Maybe the pink stuff was a hybrid and now in the F2 you just get much more variation than in the uniform F1 generation, kind of get to see the grandparents more in it.
That did occur to me..(after beginning of flower....a scratching head moment walking through....then a stop and smoke moment :biglaugh:...)

Did occur to me and gave it some thought, but, nah.......don't think so...........1. Cause some resemble the PPP to a T.....so much in act I thought they were.....(until flowering and could see and smell, etc...)

The I have a bunch of what I originally were certain were the BOG's (which I have run now last several seasons and some in also couple times.....)...again...till flowering and could see and smell.....was certain.....

Then............then here is a wider variety.......colors different, structure the same, leaves vary....buds though all exactly identical........(I didn't have a lot of them to start with so.....smell the same.....look the same......very little variance in structure (buds...flowering...)

Lot of them were actually that last set of pics......is basically the first spot on a site......have to walk through there to get to all other spots at that specific location.....

Whatever it is......whatever the crosses.....they kill....without a doubt......(kind of bud a newbie takes 2-3 hits and throws up on his shoes an wants to go to emergency room :biglaugh:.......)
Excitement is a very nice feeling

Glad to hear your worst season turns into the most fun one.

I had another day of full sun Forecast is good. I'm getting excited

Good luck with the pink preservation project.
I'm a little worried because was talking to some of crew about digging them up and bringing them in and they started their whining.......Can/Will do myself but will be very annoyed if I have to..........(both for various reasons.......specifics would give away different vehicles and such, so.....whatever....)

I have to though...I have to....been wondering what kind of success I could have with cloning them at this point....(the low, lower, lowest small stuff down there......could prep a tray (100) or more and bring a jar of gel and just do them all on site in like 10 minutes..(1-couple trays full, etc)....would be easier, cleaner, easier to get greater selection, etc....(ie: Could cut and mark like....everything I wanted to...all the best ones, etc...best qualities, etc..........)

(Above somewhere......reason I like the heavier indicas....heavy storms stand up much better........had some splits recently........most of the heavier ones......good luck .....nothing going to bring them down besides a chainsaw :biglaugh:......)

Yeah....I don't know how to explain (worst season most fun and best one....)....was, without a doubt just bad..(10x more stress for me this season than any other one, anywhere, anytime...due to crew, negligence of sites and plots and locations and missing feeds and trimmings and males.......and on and on....)

(Not to mention...business?...family?...markets?...personal?......worst year of my life across the board on top of that bullshit, so.......:biglaugh:

I don't like uncertainty......everything else has been gotten under control.......these matters last "up in the air"......

Now though?......now past that..planning on future ones....lot of different things......close enough and extended forecasts looking okay.....(no dropping the ball now, because, we all know as earlier...of course now that the shits ready no ones going to fuck up cause their waiting for it :biglaugh:

Lot of aspects........lot of bad to appreciate the good stuff....lot of best lessons learned through failure(s) stuff.....lot of new ideas about methods, approaches, set ups, runs, strains, etc....(AF run good example as above...), ran some nice things previous years (could do one whole batch PPP, could do one whole batch SB's, could do one whole batch Pink..could do one whole batch AF's, another whole batch Marocs....etc...stuff like that.......)

One things for sure though :smoke:..................

We're fucking close.................

(I also didn't vary and time well enough...I'm going to be serious hit and slammed shortly...too many things, too many place coming all at once......Not how I usually like it....(hence the above......AF's July.....Marocs August....Pink late Sept....DB early Oct.....finish with PPP mid October......all different, all spread out, etc..(so have things coming down from July-late Oct.....spread it out, etc....)

I definitely didn't spread it out enough this year and going to be very sorry I didn't in some way, shape, or form.....(Hopefully the worst case scenario will be trimming and drying issues but doing that a little different this season also........spreading it out among a lot of different locations.....ie: Round of cutting....drop off some here, some there, some here, some there, and on and on....and so on and so on........)

Just thinking out loud....hope all is well.............

Haven't been hit as heavy with mold issues due to a risky alteration in planting this time around in a lot of spots....(all day sun, tremendous wind.......none yet despite extremely solid things and a 70-90% average humidity....).......But, not across the board....have some spots I am sweating.....so.....we'll see.........very concerned about one op.......very concerned..(across the board.......)

Anyway......

Almost there......right around corner......(Calender tells me 21st, and next week will be start of October :smoke:.....)

I'll be really excited when I am far enough in with everything to be able to get the fuck outta here for a quick trip (business and pleasure....) .....(everything down.......everything brought in......then I can take a breath....put the season behind me and move forward.......veg the pink, start the AF's, take a trip...begin accumulation of supplies...finalize new locations, re-discuss current new ones, etc, etc, etc...)

Already spending a lot of time thinking next year going to be great year weather wise...(we know most likely will not be as wet as this season.....could even be the opposite :smoke: (stranger things have happened...:smoke:

Best of luck to all
......almost there.........entering 3rd week Sept.....next week 4th/last week :smoke:...........)

Almost there
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Yeah man........excitement........putting the worst season of my life to bed (and moving onto the next which will most likely be the best?...and getting out of here?...) well........I suppose I am quite excited :smoke:....

Blade hash..(scissors, blades, clippers, shears, etc).......now that excites me :biglaugh:....

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zapatoloco

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Just some thoughts...

1. I like the idea of taking a hundred clones off the very lowest parts of the plant on site. Uprooting and re-veging may not be 100% successful so cloning before sounds wise. Have you ever thought of trying tissue culture ? ( i saw a kit for 250.00 in a hydro shop (pffff..hydro shops :( ).

2. You have a gap for mid-september, ever think of Guerilla Gold from Greens ? seems it would fit right in to the rythm of your futur ops.

3. PPP is Dutch Passions Power Plant ??
 
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1. I'd agree, but would tend to think at this point (maybe 2 weeks before complete finish) , pull and reveg might stand better chance than clones (anyone free to chime in with taking OD clones 1-2 weeks before finish from bottoms....)

2. A gap?......you forget about trimming I suppose.....:smoke:

Have heard about the GG (or is it the HG?)....heard a little here and there....

Abovementioned just thinking out loud...as above and earlier, I might change plans 20 times before execution....(and 20 times during.....)

3.Yes, I ran specifically DP fem PPP......had a couple go bad on me out of 100-200 (don't remember, smaller "test" run...not that many)...so.....trip or two in to confirm 100% stable still probably a good idea......
 
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Have heard nothing but good things about Grapefruit.....not sure why I passed on it before...could have been initial impressions about finish times, how they fit into the schedule (that I was thinking of that moment), maybe availability, maybe yield.......don't remember really...probably should have....

Grapefruit should finish 3rd or 4th week of October. At least one guy in Poland harvested it 18th Oct. I've hardly seen Gf grown outdoors at our latitudes.

A nice pheno of the GfxV Not the most common though from hat I've seen so far. I'm very happy that they all smell like the mother. Vigor surpassing everything I had so far except the Satori. Some octopuslike fluffy sativa expressions, but all quick and frosty. I really wanted to test them this year outdoors.

dumping it?....don't believe the support system there to make it worthwhile..(well, if you lived there, of course.....something like that I could spent 100k alone in airfare the first run....so....

I never tried it, but I think I'd have a problem getting rid of 1kg in a reasonable timeframe. Wouldn't sell itself that for sure.

I imagine in a big op the main issue is what to do with the product. Given the right connections, do you think that a retail price of 13$/g would allow you to make more profit dumping on the local market than turning all to hash and shipping?

Blade hash..(scissors, blades, clippers, shears, etc).......now that excites me ....

Just a couple more days :D
 

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vod said:
Grapefruit should finish 3rd or 4th week of October. At least one guy in Poland harvested it 18th Oct. I've hardly seen Gf grown outdoors at our latitudes.
That's probably why I passed on it........Oct 15th more or less is my cut off for several reasons.....

Seasons starting to become a little too long for me....I plan to start shortening them :smoke:... (Would be happy with true "massive" AF run and packed up by late July even, etc....maybe add some Marocs (Aug......)....Packed up and done prey quick.........entire process compacted, etc...(but then I start to think add other like above, etc :biglaugh:.....know how second guessing goes :smoke:...)
A nice pheno of the GfxV Not the most common though from hat I've seen so far. I'm very happy that they all smell like the mother. Vigor surpassing everything I had so far except the Satori. Some octopuslike fluffy sativa expressions, but all quick and frosty. I really wanted to test them this year outdoors.
Now that is very nice.......(I want to get some of those shots in.......shortly :smoke:....yet another illustration in discussions.....)

You know.....I really haven't heard anything bad regarding the Mandala (sp?) line, and, when came out was contemplating quite a bit due to reasonable price for stock....but, of course, would put me again at M/F's, which I'd rather not deal with.......at all....ever...(ie: Just adding more work.....so....more work, more prep, more wasted time, space, money, etc.......)
I never tried it, but I think I'd have a problem getting rid of 1kg in a reasonable timeframe. Wouldn't sell itself that for sure.

I imagine in a big op the main issue is what to do with the product. Given the right connections, do you think that a retail price of 13$/g would allow you to make more profit dumping on the local market than turning all to hash and shipping?
Well.......several reasonable options and alternatives for volume....you know....the Europe things a different angle.... (for me...various reasons and issues...etc....)

(I would also assume Euro market is completely hash saturated, so.......) Volume, grams is last thing should be on ones mind......
Just a couple more days :D
We're getting there........I just sampled something today which I threw it all into the bubble piles :biglaugh:....(And, some, lb plus each one....some maybe even up to 2 each.....)....all of it......

2 hits in.........nnnnnnnno.......It's going to a trimming place asap.....:smoke:
 
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You know.....I really haven't heard anything bad regarding the Mandala (sp?) line

I wasn't happy with how their Kalichakra performed in my setup. I had an error with lights so flowering was distorted - took bloody ages and 90 days after inducing 12/12 I finally cut her looking like this. Can't really speak about the properly grown product - mine was very fluffy, not much resin and hardly any smell - but all were slower and weaker in veg than the rest of my strains. I read though that it did very well outdoors for some guy in my climate. Maybe I got a bad batch? Really small seeds - Mandala seeds are supposed to be rather big. Satoris were really chunky seeds and vegged twice as strong as the Kalichakra.
 

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Who's PPP are you useing J? Sounds like its a good one for OD . I like the harvest staggering idea....what kind of wght do the marocs give you??
 

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vod said:
I wasn't happy with how their Kalichakra performed in my setup. I had an error with lights so flowering was distorted - took bloody ages and 90 days after inducing 12/12 I finally cut her looking like this. Can't really speak about the properly grown product - mine was very fluffy, not much resin and hardly any smell - but all were slower and weaker in veg than the rest of my strains. I read though that it did very well outdoors for some guy in my climate. Maybe I got a bad batch? Really small seeds - Mandala seeds are supposed to be rather big. Satoris were really chunky seeds and vegged twice as strong as the Kalichakra.
Yeah, that does look way, way early.....

Could be bad batch.....(I've had bad batches of stock before here and there...)....most likely a bad run though (as you stated).........Not sure about physical appearance of stock...haven't run it......but, yeah...testament to their stock is went through to refresh memory on product line and noticed at least at one source, entire line completely out of stock, so.....Sorry about a bad run......know a disappointment....How did you correct?....How long was cycle off?....How did you go about finishing them?....(I had the same happen.......cycle got messed up....noticed looked like a problem...finally got it under control...quality came out fine but yield suffered big time.....was quite a while back..(couple years)...forgot specifics.....was maybe a week or so.......

Have had an interest in their Speed Queen.....which actually I believe their comments on finishing times are rather open....."By September" I believe write up says.....which to me means "BY September".........but could mean many other things...could mean...."By September, Before October"........:smoke:

(I take "By September" to mean Sept 1st will start to come in......)

Anyway.......

Seem like an overall good value though.....and fairly decent product across the board......from what I have heard (in general....minus such as above....)



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Who's PPP are you useing J? Sounds like its a good one for OD . I like the harvest staggering idea....what kind of wght do the marocs give you??
All in there early my friend......DP fem PPP......everyone in general very happy with it....has been a favorite of almost all who have tried it....

Staggering is "Volume 101"......(or no volume, depending on preferences......)......ie: Never want to be hit with having to take down everything at once, so, you stagger the finishing times/strains........which can be debatable......Different approaches.....ideally every plot is something different, which requires different visits at different times, allowing many different plots and locations to be monitored and scheduled......(Doesn't always work out that way for me as sometimes I keep adding things to wherever there is room when going extra heavy......

Example: Have a location/op not even going near for about 4-5 weeks...period....(at that point going in to cut and out asap....wrap it up....)

(Monitoring weather.....that may change if turns against me.....)

Have another location/op know nothing to cut for about 3-4 weeks...same deal.....weather being watched.......

Have another looks like 2 weeks or so for quite a bit......and then some will be left another 2......

(But, of course, that all changes when you get started cutting and get in there and get a close look at things and start to determine if done, etc.....and, of course with the weather......

Above all off the top of my head and can change at any moment...weather dictating a lot......

Hit another one recently and cut some, left some, cut some more, etc.....and, have another that I couldn't make it to (I was different direction at another...) and one partner stopped in to take a bunch of shots of specific things....(Which I haven't reviewed yet.....), so....will make the call on that one from pics of different things which I remember ...

Maroc.......well, since it seems I triggered them, they didn't come out that large....but, they seemed okay......likewise......I have seen many with more veg time that looked like they yielded much better....My interest due to quality, speed, etc.........(size would not have been an issue if I initially knew what they would do and ran appropriate numbers, but, again, that was first run, test batch, etc........)

I've heard it said the BOG SB not a great yielder, and, indoors, smaller.....well, struck me as okay...not bad...but, outdoors with huge veg time and size I always end up with "pop cans"....which don't really lose too much on the dry in general......so.....all relative.......

Sure even little more veg time on them would have helped......(and, of course, now that I have an idea what to expect and how to run them......would veg a little more, would plant a little earlier, and would alter feedings and prep.......so.......you know......)

Not bad though.....but strength lies in other qualities and makes up for it......

Yield never one of my primary concerns because I can make it up with the numbers, so......my priority starts with finishing times....quality is a given......I tend to select things that interest me.........of course, but, if finishing times don't fall within my specific needs or desires, I move on.....(Good example the SSH.......just don't think I can pull it off, but, should be noted as time has gone on I have seen the finishing dates moved up by people who have run it, so.......might find it's way into the lineup soon....)....

I look through a lot of things...start to develop an interest and then glance the finish times and move on..(Most of the time I go right to them to check.......but, sometimes I get to it last :biglaugh:.....)
 

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Extended Forecasts:
Lot of discussion always about monitoring extended forecasts, the changes sometimes by the hour, let alone the day, but, let's say a forecast shows all clear for 2 weeks...no rain......

Personally, not only am I till checking twice or more a day, but sometimes, (if stationary) even hourly on the humidity....winds......etc.......(which also change by the minute, let alone the hour or day......)

During the course of 24 hours, one can see a 40% difference in humidity depending on the area/region/conditions....the patterns and changes and different times reflected, etc...very important to me (to all)....and, also helps in determining schedules, etc...(I might see several days looking at high 80's.....well, throughout the course of the day might get down to 50's....60's.....40's....etc..(trying not to be regionally specific, so, all theoretical examples, of course :smoke:....)

Forecast can be used in countless ways.........at many different times..(early veg for temps (nightly/extended), scheduling, rainfall......mid veg for rainfall and temps and winds...late veg/early flower to mid and late flower for rainfall, storms, winds, (Both of which might indicate visits needed to check on splitting and tipping and such..) and humidity, etc.......

Furthermore..........

Any and all data, on any and all conditions, as above, can then be applied to any location or plots allowing for different factors.......ie: Temps good, no rain, humidity pushing it, but, exposure and circulation countering that.....which might then also read to readjustment of scheduling......ie: Open spots can handle it, can be left, forest spots more vulnerable to certain conditions, hence putting one location off for a week, changing schedule to replace it with another, etc........(maximize efficiency...time....effort...visits...exposure, etc.....)

Details.....specifics.......always nice to know........but.....overview in itself can change any and everything.....
 

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In agriculture weather rules the scheduling. Farmers love their internet and weather network for sure. Especially important for securing labor. In Canada the weather network
has had the silliest musak for years...i know the tune by heart... am humming it at the moment. Nothing like fourteen days sun and mild temps around end of september beginning of october...lookin down that beautiful road....and it actually holds.
 
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Yeah, that does look way, way early.....

Could be bad batch.....(I've had bad batches of stock before here and there...)....most likely a bad run though (as you stated).........Not sure about physical appearance of stock...haven't run it......but, yeah...testament to their stock is went through to refresh memory on product line and noticed at least at one source, entire line completely out of stock, so.....Sorry about a bad run......know a disappointment....How did you correct?....How long was cycle off?....How did you go about finishing them?....(I had the same happen.......cycle got messed up....noticed looked like a problem...finally got it under control...quality came out fine but yield suffered big time.....was quite a while back..(couple years)...forgot specifics.....was maybe a week or so.......

Have had an interest in their Speed Queen.....which actually I believe their comments on finishing times are rather open....."By September" I believe write up says.....which to me means "BY September".........but could mean many other things...could mean...."By September, Before October"........

(I take "By September" to mean Sept 1st will start to come in......)

Anyway.......

Seem like an overall good value though.....and fairly decent product across the board......from what I have heard (in general....minus such as above....)

Bad run for sure. After 6 or 7 weeks flowering the lights went on twice during the dark period (for 15 and 30 minutes) and it went like this for about two weeks until I realized it. A month after correcting the photoperiod I lost patience and chopped her.

Mandala... Sold out everywhere. Good reviews aplenty. Good price. Speed Queen hmm... as far as I can remember not so quick really (mid oct.). Mandala#1 seems to be their earliest (early sept.). But F/M, right? And who knows if they will actually have new stock in January and distribute it.
As I said. I'm very happy with their Satori. Absolutely beautiful plant. Mandala doesn't recommend to grow it outdoors north of 45N though.

My forecast says: rain tomorrow and by end of the week full sunshine again and a bit warmer :D

Grapefruit outdoors. Looks like a nice yielder. But definitively second half/end October.
 
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zapatoloco said:
In agriculture weather rules the scheduling. Farmers love their internet and weather network for sure. Especially important for securing labor. In Canada the weather network
has had the silliest musak for years...i know the tune by heart... am humming it at the moment. Nothing like fourteen days sun and mild temps around end of september beginning of october...lookin down that beautiful road....and it actually holds.
Sounds good on surface, but, will it change...what kind of humidity, and, of course, sure anyone here knows, one bad placed storm can cause quite a bit of damage......(Last season....I was staking up probably hundreds later on due to one bad stretch......more than ever before actually, but, probably due to a new spots and bigger plants.....(12-16ft...)

Sounds logical, but, sure many don't follow it as much as they should considering the true impact such has on any given person....

(I get kind of annoyed....my own guys ask me about the weather and extended........:biglaugh: I mean......wtf man...more important to them than me......so :biglaugh:..)





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Bad run for sure. After 6 or 7 weeks flowering the lights went on twice during the dark period (for 15 and 30 minutes) and it went like this for about two weeks until I realized it. A month after correcting the photoperiod I lost patience and chopped her.
Ohhhh that hurts.......Can't say I would have had any more patience....wonder about potential outcomes.....(I had one case...forgot exactly what happened but, in the end, they finished fairly well, just was hit heavy on yield (cost 50% I'm sure.........indoor run, so....hurt a little more....)
Mandala... Sold out everywhere. Good reviews aplenty. Good price. Speed Queen hmm... as far as I can remember not so quick really (mid oct.).
Ohhhhhhh......write up says Sept (which, again, could mean end of, which again, easily goes to "end Sept/beginning October" when your talking mass individuals, etc, even if stable to start with.....still a variance....

Has an interest in he Hashberry, which again, people seem to have been fairly pleased.....and, at least that gives me an end Sept/Beginning October....so...
Mandala#1 seems to be their earliest (early sept.). But F/M, right? And who knows if they will actually have new stock in January and distribute it.
I actually really liked the promo photo.....still tells me "mid/end" September, but......if 50% "mid", well, good enough for me :smoke:......(or in reality, call it 33% early, 33% mid, and 33% late Sept, would still be nice......(individuals and variance......)...I can work with that.....:smoke: Was very interested when they came out, but, again, I try to stay fem, so...somewhere didn't pull the trigger on those.....(might......just, again...the M/F......seems like for my desires....might actually be ideal for later season......ie: less work/prep, quickly and easily sexed, etc.....and still a good price and worthwhile, etc.....
My forecast says: rain tomorrow and by end of the week full sunshine again and a bit warmer :D
That's what it says at this second.........:smoke:....

(Hope the rain misses you :smoke:......stranger things have happened....:smoke:....)
Very fuckin nice..........I'm sold. :biglaugh:.......maybe try a run in furthest south location......(I have about a 2-3-400 mile N-S difference in ops......)

What kind of hole and prep on that? Looks like fills out very, very well......(Why I wondered about prep.....)

Have heard people very pleased with quality also......

See....October...........well...I'll tell ya :smoke:...I had a season once temps?........temps were okay...was a late frost year........but was overcast the entire month...... (well, not the entire month, just not when raining, of course :biglaugh:...)....mentioned earlier at some point...probably coast me 50%+/- in yield, so....(which really hurt).......10%?...even 20%?....eh, you live with it...worst things have happened.....when costing 50%+/-.....whole different ballgame.......

Looks nice........very nice......fills out well and have heard also can get serious resin.....(But how does it respond to topping?........that looks like would/could/can be a good candidate for splitting/tipping issues if serious storm.......)
 
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Speed Queen: Mid October (North) And the german languague version defines north as north from 46N.

Ohhhh that hurts.......

I almost run out of weed to smoke. A lot of wasted time and space.

But how does it respond to topping?

I toped one and it branched out heavily. Octopuslike long arms. When topped all the other branches got realy long. Same with bending. I enjoy that trait very much in my mini set up. Toped a couple times looked like this. Resin is good and so is potency as far as I can judge. Here is one from the guy who did the outdoor one above. Heavy stuff. Might not hold the flowers if to much toping.

What kind of hole and prep on that?
Hole about 25 liters. Filled 2/3 with potting soil and 1/3 perlite. Some dolomite lime added. Fed liquid nutes. During flowering PK13/14 every 2 or 3 weeks. Plant was 5 meters from a stream.
 
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If you're at a latitude where you can grow grapefruit outdoors then you're one very lucky guy:) I'm running her indoors and it's such a nice strain. The buds don't look like much but when you start trimming you realise that they're pretty damn solid and also a very very easy trim. Oh and the aroma and resin... wow:)
Good luck finding any seeds though - female seeds are supposed to be back on track from this month but everything is pretty silent so far...

Here in Denmark our strain selection is pretty limited.. I've seen some people having success with c99, AK47 or other name brands on very good years but in general you need to go for real northern outdoor strains.
 
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