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Wait, so people that don't smoke weed aren't supposed to be here?
What about people that eat it or vaporize it?
What about people that eat it or vaporize it?
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that's all you had to say bro.
"I choose to eat or vape it"
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"I choose to eat or vape it"
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ive been smokin 7 years straight and get lung pains, it is disgusting. ive been on the vape and it's gotten better although still not all the way. nasty
Echoes
Member
A good study but not the end of the road!
A good study but not the end of the road!
Support legalization of Medical Fruit Loops! Anyone know where I can score a bag of these dank fruity loops?!
But on a more serious note...
I'm not really finding too much reason to doubt the credibility of this study. However, I feel it is lacking in some details as mentioned above. I don't feel that it is conclusive evidence or fact as more information and studying is required. Of course smoke of any kind isn't good for you but do the potential risks outweigh the serious medical ailments that many patients suffer from? That's really decided on a personal level, in my opinion. We need to know more about our beloved plant. We need more studies, more scientists, more funding and less government restriction. With the current draconian drug laws (cannabis on the same tier as hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, pcp, etc?! that's outrageous) any kind of credible study in our country is hindered. To learn more about it we first have to tear down these ridiculous laws and reverse the brainwashing done to so many in the past. Cannabis is a viable medical treatment and a quite natural one at that. We as citizens deserve the right to choose medications/alternative treatments instead of being forced pills by the pharmaceutical industries. I must admit that I do, every once and a while get a twinge of pain in my lungs but I am also a former cigarette smoker of 4-5 years (almost a year without them, now.) I seriously need to get to vaping, really soon. I love my Lux so much though
Wouldn't mind getting a chance to eat more pot. Don't turn a blind eye to all of these studies! You may miss some pretty credible ones!
A good study but not the end of the road!
spadedNfaded said:
Support legalization of Medical Fruit Loops! Anyone know where I can score a bag of these dank fruity loops?!
But on a more serious note...
I'm not really finding too much reason to doubt the credibility of this study. However, I feel it is lacking in some details as mentioned above. I don't feel that it is conclusive evidence or fact as more information and studying is required. Of course smoke of any kind isn't good for you but do the potential risks outweigh the serious medical ailments that many patients suffer from? That's really decided on a personal level, in my opinion. We need to know more about our beloved plant. We need more studies, more scientists, more funding and less government restriction. With the current draconian drug laws (cannabis on the same tier as hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, pcp, etc?! that's outrageous) any kind of credible study in our country is hindered. To learn more about it we first have to tear down these ridiculous laws and reverse the brainwashing done to so many in the past. Cannabis is a viable medical treatment and a quite natural one at that. We as citizens deserve the right to choose medications/alternative treatments instead of being forced pills by the pharmaceutical industries. I must admit that I do, every once and a while get a twinge of pain in my lungs but I am also a former cigarette smoker of 4-5 years (almost a year without them, now.) I seriously need to get to vaping, really soon. I love my Lux so much though
Wouldn't mind getting a chance to eat more pot. Don't turn a blind eye to all of these studies! You may miss some pretty credible ones!
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I emailed the author, but forgot to ask about method smoked. Asked about medical records with the patients with regard to them smoking cigs. Good post, echoes!
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crownedsparrow
haha i emailed him too...
I just thought of something: given that this was in a specialized RESPIRATORY journal, maybe the test subjects were chronic smokers that participated in the study BECAUSE they had chest pains. The article abstract didn't rule this out, and usually credible marijuana studies take great pains to have a wide sample group if they're going to make generalizations.
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Yes, a sample size of 10 isn't too impressive. I don't understand why they choose small samples like this. There must be a reason...you'd think....
The_Leader
Non-Hilocentric
why only 1O? are you kidding? i remeber a dr once proved monkeys would die if they smoked devil weed. he put a monkey in a box and pumped the box full w/pot smoke and sure enough the monkey DIED.
he forgot to mention the box was air tight...just saying.
if pots so nasty journies, why you not on marinol?
grants make good sientist puppets of the state. imho
he forgot to mention the box was air tight...just saying.
if pots so nasty journies, why you not on marinol?
grants make good sientist puppets of the state. imho
well, I reckon any smoke at all is bad for ur lungs...its common sense...its only coz its our beloved herb that some ppl refuse to accept that it could do some harm in the long run-not as bad as baccy but some....
if it was a study that saud smoking oak leaves fucks ur lungs no1 would bat an eye...
we all say how blind the prohibitionists and ppl who espouse their crap are, but isnt someone who refuses to entertain the possibility that their could be some negative effects in some ppl equally blind...
if it was a study that saud smoking oak leaves fucks ur lungs no1 would bat an eye...
we all say how blind the prohibitionists and ppl who espouse their crap are, but isnt someone who refuses to entertain the possibility that their could be some negative effects in some ppl equally blind...
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Leader, SMOKING pot is nasty, actually, it's absolutely disgusting in my opinion. Eating it/vaping it isn't too bad.
BTW: Can you prove that the scientists doing this are "puppets of the state?"
Or did that comment not relate to this study and you just wanted to say it?
BTW: Can you prove that the scientists doing this are "puppets of the state?"
Or did that comment not relate to this study and you just wanted to say it?
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Yep, ya say smoking weed is bad, and automatically you get people jumping on you because they assume you think weed is the devil. People need to stop being so damn close-minded on this site, it's unfortunate, the bias I see here. Wtf man!Harry Gypsna said:
The_Leader
Non-Hilocentric
I guess what saves me HG is I dont believe any of it...lol. well, more like i dont care one iota. no matter what anyone says, imagonna do what imagonna do.
i cough up black gunk. hell been doing it for yrs. i quit cigs, and i vape more than i smoke, but i have a very healthy disrespect for the usa gov. just look at bush/cheny...enough said.
this study could be spot on, but any gov is a gov entangled w/usa and war on drugs.
i cough up black gunk. hell been doing it for yrs. i quit cigs, and i vape more than i smoke, but i have a very healthy disrespect for the usa gov. just look at bush/cheny...enough said.
this study could be spot on, but any gov is a gov entangled w/usa and war on drugs.
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Through the years I've been exposed to way too much of this shit.Eggs are good eggs are bad butter is good margarine is bad if you're paying attention it'll drive you nuts!The only common thread in these studies is a persons freedom was never threatened had they chosen to disregard them.Health studies should only be used for peoples benefit if they choose to follow them,not for a social or political agenda like cannabis studies always are.
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amen to that!blockheader said:
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EatCannabisRaw
I think we want to protect this right of cannabis smoking that has been thoroughly raped and taken from us by the US government. Thats why we hold onto it with "bias"... because there are enough people trying to take it away.
I think its possible a lot of issues with cannabis come to how it is grown. With the advent of indoor growing there is lots more cannabis grown with oil-based fertilizers. From the stuff I've read on cannabisculture.com, these fertilizers can get into the pot (obviously). Some of the fertilizers have high amounts of radioactive plutonium (and who knows what else). Cancer causing.
Who knows what else all these other toxic chemicals do to you...
Fulla Nayak died at like 125...she smoked a blunt a day. I bet you it was good outdoor indian weed...organic and free of all that toxic crap cannabis is being grown in today with all the hydroponic stuff.
I think its a sad fact that not only did the government take away our right to smoke marijuana...but because of the fear we are forced to go indoors and for many that means oil-based toxic fertilizers/chemicals! And thats what we end up smoking WITH the marijuana!
I think its possible a lot of issues with cannabis come to how it is grown. With the advent of indoor growing there is lots more cannabis grown with oil-based fertilizers. From the stuff I've read on cannabisculture.com, these fertilizers can get into the pot (obviously). Some of the fertilizers have high amounts of radioactive plutonium (and who knows what else). Cancer causing.
Who knows what else all these other toxic chemicals do to you...
Fulla Nayak died at like 125...she smoked a blunt a day. I bet you it was good outdoor indian weed...organic and free of all that toxic crap cannabis is being grown in today with all the hydroponic stuff.
I think its a sad fact that not only did the government take away our right to smoke marijuana...but because of the fear we are forced to go indoors and for many that means oil-based toxic fertilizers/chemicals! And thats what we end up smoking WITH the marijuana!
The article states several interesting things.
1. It is the "breathing Manoeuvres" involving holding the breath for "four times" as long as tobacco users and doing so at full lung capacity which causes the disease.
2. Even though the condition was 'present' in the Marijuana smokers, Lung Function were normal in half of the patients tested.
3. The article fails to mention what percentage of the cannabis smokers also smoked other things besides cannabis, or inhaled other things besides smoke.
4. 10 people studied. Puhlease... Can Any sort of meaningful data be gathered from a 10 person study? This study is really more meaningless than the Political polls which sample hundreds and are so often wrong because of the very small sample size... Really... 10...
It's been a long time since my habit of smoking cannabis involved any 'full lung breath holding', Having come to the conclusion long ago that 6 tiny hits will get me as high or higher than three large ones. And As it seems that the breath holding is the cause of the problem, I advise any of the 'breath holders' out there to simply stop trying to get as high as possible off of one hit, and give the ole lungs a break.
1. It is the "breathing Manoeuvres" involving holding the breath for "four times" as long as tobacco users and doing so at full lung capacity which causes the disease.
2. Even though the condition was 'present' in the Marijuana smokers, Lung Function were normal in half of the patients tested.
3. The article fails to mention what percentage of the cannabis smokers also smoked other things besides cannabis, or inhaled other things besides smoke.
4. 10 people studied. Puhlease... Can Any sort of meaningful data be gathered from a 10 person study? This study is really more meaningless than the Political polls which sample hundreds and are so often wrong because of the very small sample size... Really... 10...
It's been a long time since my habit of smoking cannabis involved any 'full lung breath holding', Having come to the conclusion long ago that 6 tiny hits will get me as high or higher than three large ones. And As it seems that the breath holding is the cause of the problem, I advise any of the 'breath holders' out there to simply stop trying to get as high as possible off of one hit, and give the ole lungs a break.
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journies said:
The study only shows that marijuana smoking causes the disease, NOT Marijuana smoke. It is the Way alot of marijuana smokers do the smoking that causes the disease, not what they are smoking.
At least according to this study.
