Marijuana exempt from smoking ban

[Herbalistic]

I understand what Chamba is talking about, but I do also understand vod´s opinion...

Wouldnt the solution be to allowe smoking in some bars/clubs etc.. while there could be "healthy" altenative bars/clucs for non smokers? This all sounds like logic sense to me allowing every person smoke, or not smoke/breath passive smoke

No need to call anyone an asshole, because they support smoking in bars! I example smoke Marlboro indeed + im well aware of it´s health issues, but it´s almost only cigarette that suits my taste.... Am I an asshole because I wanna inhale my nicotine without anyone else having to suffer from that?

Chill everyone and talk civilly, enough of unnecessary beef´s inside this community just because of genetics and "my weed is better than yours attitude", so we really dont need more of them starting from personal addictions... Let´s stick what we know best, which is growing great cannabis, organic, or not, ok?

Peace

 

[Babbabud]

Perhaps there should be both types of coffeshops. Personally I wouldnt sit in a shop where tobacco was being used. But put a sign on the door that they are using tobacco there and Ill gladly go down the street where all i can smell is pot and hash. Nothing worse then a stinky tobacco ash tray ..... unless its a stinky tobacco smellin person.

 

[Chamba]

Here's a hint Marlboro men.........some, but not all by a long shot, of the harmful additives in tobacco are water soluble...so do yourself a favour and pre-soak in water and then slow dry your tobacco if you feel the need to ruin cannabis with tobacco...the only downside is nicotine levels in the pre-soaked tobacco will be reduced so your won't get the kick you are used to and the 600 lb Nicotine monkey on your back will scratch you like a mo-fo......

I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would grow their own bud then ruin it with tobacco.....if you want to smoke cannabis and tobacco together then grow your own tobacco..it aint that hard!..if you can grow good bud you can grow baccy (it grows in just about all climates, pick the right strain) and then you have the added advantage of not smoking the 600+ or whatever additives cigarette companies add to tobacco to make it more "desirable" lol

anyone ..here's my theory about tobacco and cancer.....it's the way modern tobacco is grown and processed with additives that has causes the massive rise in cancers among smokers.....prior to the 40's or 50's, cancer rates among smokers were not that much greater than non-smokers (but emphysema rates were much higher)...now cancer rates among tobacco smokers are sky high compared to non-smokers...you can thank your multinational tobacco company and their concerned care for their consumers for that!

 

[BadKarma]

The problem is that the non smokers dont want you smoking Period. They are the selfish ones, the ones who cant allow anyone to smoke anywhere.

And as I stated before smoking in coffee shops is about to end for MJ smokers its just one controlling nonsmokers complaint away.

When you get in bed with the government and take away someone elses freedoms they will one day use the power you gave them against you.
Unlike the selfish nonsmokers I wont be cheering them.

 

[Babbabud]

The problem is that the non smokers dont want you smoking Period. They are the selfish ones, the ones who cant allow anyone to smoke anywhere.

And as I stated before smoking in coffee shops is about to end for MJ smokers its just one controlling nonsmokers complaint away.

When you get in bed with the government and take away someone elses freedoms they will one day use the power you gave them against you.
Unlike the selfish nonsmokers I wont be cheering them.

You guys can smoke tobacco all you want in any shop you want far as im concerned. Please just give us a place that we can go without smelling you ... works for me

 

[BadKarma]

take your bet

freedom means doing what you want....so long as you don't offend, bother, annoy or hurt others, that's fair isn't it?....if you disagree with then you are a selfish asshole, and that's why there are laws for assholes.

Sorry but you have no right against being offended. bothered or annoyed.

I have decided your whole fucking lifestyle offends me?
The fact that you breath is annoying?
Your smoking MJ bothers me?

You my friend are a friggin Tool. If you havent caught on yet controlling self righteous people like you piss me off.

 

[Chamba]

don't shoot the messanger, debate the message.......if you are able, that is..

.....if not, then simply rant on bro!

Happy Nicotining!

 

[BadKarma]

I have Debated the message.
People like yourself will soon put and end to smoking MJ in coffee shops.

Because as Ive stated also people like you are controlling and will never be happy until smoking is banned everywhere. People like you are laying awake at night mad as hell that somewhere (most likely a place they have never been or will ever go) someone is smoking a joint. This will not stand with people such as yourself and every thing possible will be tried until it stops. That's just the way people like you are.

Your first post says it all "Brother"
that's good news...tobacco sucks big time....

now we should see a major change in the way Europeans smoke cannabis......smaller joints, one hitter pipes and other more efficient, cleaner and economical ways of smoking will take over from the usual big paper jays half full or more of cigarette tobacco

Talk about controlling, not good enough to control your own life you want a shot at controlling all of Europe. Like I said A Tool.

 

[Babbabud]

Well mixing tobacco with great weed does seem a bit prehistoric hehehe But thats just the view of someone who likes to TASTE the finest I honestly feel that if you use tobacco you arent really tasting the pot even if you roll it pure .... so your loss Im an ex tobacco user and whether i chewed or smoked ... i couldnt taste anything till i quit Maybe badkarmas attitude is just because he cant quit ... takes alot of will power... cant imagine anyone smokine anymore because they think its a good thing
If you think its enjoyable ... its just because you havent gone without for way too long. I dont care where you guys smoke ... i dont have to go there ... ill go down the street to the clean air or just stay home Not smoking is a personal thing for me ... you guys do what you want too. Peace

 

[vod]

Seriously, tobacco is not good for you. True that. It stinks and places where people smoke stink and the people themselves stink as well. But in my mind that is not reason enough to ban smoking tobacco. You could put the same rationale towards banning alcohol or cars or maybe a few other things that aren't banned already.

Why can't we simply have places for smokers and places for nonsmokers? I just can't understand this. Why do we need an all covering total ban on smoking?


I smoke weed coz I want to get high. I don't care about the taste as long as it's not disgusting. I have yet to smoke weed that I really like the taste of (I did smoke hash that was delicious though). Maybe that is coz I'm a smoker and my taste buds are dead. Or I'm a shitty grower or maybe I'm just made like that, coz I have a friend who is a heavy smoker (tobacco) and he loves the taste of my weed.

 

[bagseed77]

im an american who smoke s ciggs and weed, i hate second hand cigg smoke but on the other hand love the smell of weed burnt,i found this thread entertaining and wanted to put my 2cents in. to each his own but in my house its a cigg and a beer after smoking weed , no mixing the smokes ever,ever

 

[Guest]

"Freedom means doing what you want....so long as you don't offend, bother, annoy or hurt others, that's fair isn't it?....if you disagree with then you are a selfish asshole, and that's why there are laws for assholes."

EXACTLY angry dudes..... Thus, keep your smoke to yourself.


Yo, Nicotine Smokers:

Mind if I fart in your face....? At least that is not poison..... Although I would not recommend it..

Again: Tobacco should have never been allowed in the first place, centuries ago.

Y'all can yell all ya want, but IT IS POISON.

Case closed.

 

[vod]

So is alcohol bro.

And if I feel like poisoning myself a bit it is not your fuckin business.
And if we have a club where we fart in each others faces and enjoy it and you come and moan about it and fuckin ban it, than you are seriously wrong.

 

[Babbabud]

I agree vod there should be room for us all
Hope the tobaccos smokers someday get free !!

 

[Jacksparrow]

I dont even know how to explain how awesome I think this is.

First of all, I hate smelling like tobacco smoke. I hate going home from the bar/club/wherever smelling like I was hotboxing with a carton of Marbs.

As a citizen of these United States, I have this ever increasing feeling like this country is going down the shitter faster by the day. During my time in the military I got to travel abroad a fair amount and transplanting myself across the pond looks like a better idea all the time. While I realize this ban on tobacco isn't that revolutionary an idea the fact that they look at it like they do is what amazes me.

It's awesome those officials see marijuana as something far more safe/healthy than tobacco, and not only do they ban tobacco indoors , but they specifically mention that this does not effect marijuana consumption.

This post doesnt show the level of my flabbergasted'ness over how forward (correct) their thinking is about this. I cannot even fathom what life here in the U.S. would be like if laws ,MADE SENSE. This only amplifies my feeling of ,"I need to move the hell out of here." That I've had for the last few years.

Im sitting here thinking about how I hate how pussified ,bleeding heart, fuckin stupid this country has become , so sneaky and full of hidden/alternate agenda's I hope I can one day live somewhere .......not so full of shit.

 

[Guest]

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It's awesome those officials see marijuana as something far more safe/healthy than tobacco, and not only do they ban tobacco indoors , but they specifically mention that this does not effect marijuana consumption.
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as tokers who visit holland thats all we should be concerned with

 

[BadKarma]

My point is that you live in a dream world if you think smoking MJ is going to be allowed for much longer. All its going to take is one worker in one coffee shop with an anti smoking agenda and your freedom to smoke will be gone.
And you can thank the anti-smoking-anywhere-crowd for helping it happen many of whom you will find as members of this forum.

Keep giving the government power over your lives and see how soon they come for you.

Yes I am passionate about this at 46 Ive seen it go from Gov. Buildings to my bar something the anti smoke people said WOULD NEVER HAPPEN NEVER. Now they are going to private homes in cali. trying to make it a crime to smoke in your apt then it will be your home.

If you think in the states you will EVER be allowed to have what they have in the Dam you are NUTS.

And Anti smoking laws are pushing it farther and farther from happening

Most of this is my opinion but its based in 46 years of watching people decide whats best for me my family and my buisness and im sick of it.

 

[Szslack]

Again: Tobacco should have never been allowed in the first place, centuries ago.

Soooooooo... You're talking about a natural plant that should have been eradicated centuries ago... Now, where have I heard that before?

Of course nonsmokers should be able to go out and have a good time - without necessarily having to smoke "2nd hand". But why does it have to be all out? Why can't there be room for both?

And using Chamba's logic that tobacco should be banned because it's not healthy... Boy, where do we stop? What about alcohol? Junk-food? Electricity? (yes, producing electricity pollutes) Oh and what about grizzly-bears and feline predators?

Balance is key...

 

[vod]

It's awesome those officials see marijuana as something far more safe/healthy than tobacco, and not only do they ban tobacco indoors , but they specifically mention that this does not effect marijuana consumption.

Wishful thinking. I expect the main reason to be the fact that Mr.Klink doesn't want tourist hoards to smoke on the streets. Lesser evil. If it wasn't for the money I'm sure there would be no coffeshops allowed at all. Not in that political climate that spawns smoking bans in bars.

 

[Chamba]

And using Chamba's logic that tobacco should be banned because it's not healthy

I never said tobacco should be banned, re-read what I wrote,...I said lots of things but mostly that it's a stupid stinking habit ...won't it now be nice to visit Am'dam coffee shops. ...and watch how Euro smokers will change the way they smoke in coffee shops....btw I've never been to Malawi.

of course tobacco should not be banned, what they should ban are the unnatural chemicals used to excess when growing the tobacco crop and the many other chemicals added during cigarette manufacture.


tobacco is useful...soak ten Marlboros in water for a few days then filter, dilute and spray this poison on plants in veg to discourage insects.

lol here's an idea for those with a 600 lb Nicotine monkey on their back..why not spray this mixture on your cannabis crops prior to harvest!....then you'll get the best of both worlds!....your monkey will be happy and you will be stoned!...I should get a Nobel Tobacco prize for that one!