they may have faked the original landing with Neil Armstrong, but we have been there since, yes a few times now.Are you insinuating we've been to the moon?
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I know we shot it.
We rock.
We rock.
only in America would the moon become a target. lol
ahhh what have we not shot at yet, dude what about the moon.
I never said it should be dismissed. I'm saying it shouldn't be accepted as truth without proof. If I come up with some ancient tribe that believed in elves and fairies that have a convincing story of where marijuana came from that involves elves and fairies are you going to believe it because we haven't proved elves and fairies don't exist or are you going to disbelieve it because we haven't proved that they do exist?
I'm willing to accept the odds are in favor of other life being out there but given the distances involved between places they might be. The lack of proof they exist may be that they are bound by the same limitations as us and "Warp" speed is just fiction.
To put it another way I'm not going to accept something is true just because the odds favor other intelligent life out there and someone thinks that they probably have warp drive like technology because they are probably older and much more advanced then us.
Oh okay but two problems, one is you still need the traditional fuel to burn just not as much and electric rocket engines produce less thrust and therefore take much longer. I don't think the problem of distance in space is going to be conquered by going slower.
electric rocket engine link said:
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elmanito
This was seen above New York October 13th and it is not a normal aircraft.
Namaste
Namaste
I bet that would grow some nice buds under it 
Heres a nice vid about the Dogons
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/46944/The_Dogon_Tribe__Africa__amp__The_Sirius_Star_System/
Now if i was to build my starship i would definately include a nice big grow room to recycle the stale air back into oxygen.
Nothing else but alien visitors can logically explain the Dogons' intimate knowledge of the cosmos.
Once you let that obvious conclusion sink in you realise anything really is possible.
Exciting times we live in.
I thank you for this thread as their reverence of marijuana (like many tribal people) isnt mentioned in the vids i have seen...
Heres a nice vid about the Dogons
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/46944/The_Dogon_Tribe__Africa__amp__The_Sirius_Star_System/
Now if i was to build my starship i would definately include a nice big grow room to recycle the stale air back into oxygen.
Nothing else but alien visitors can logically explain the Dogons' intimate knowledge of the cosmos.
Once you let that obvious conclusion sink in you realise anything really is possible.
Exciting times we live in.
I thank you for this thread as their reverence of marijuana (like many tribal people) isnt mentioned in the vids i have seen...
we have only made it one moon outside of our own planet, we cannot see other planets and what's going on at the surface.
We are infants in cosmology, expectations of discovering another race of intellegent life is a far off hurdle.
less than 100years of scanning the universe is not nearly enough time to find another civilization living in outer space.
But the idea and common sense of the notion should be less than dismissed and greatly explored, which is what we are doing.
Captains log 2010-11=18
We are infants in cosmology, expectations of discovering another race of intellegent life is a far off hurdle.
less than 100years of scanning the universe is not nearly enough time to find another civilization living in outer space.
But the idea and common sense of the notion should be less than dismissed and greatly explored, which is what we are doing.
Captains log 2010-11=18
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Here's how I see it...... If a person goes fishing in one lake and catches something, it shouldn't be necessary to check every other lake on the planet to know there are prolly fish in most of them.
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elmanito
'Space Jellyfish'
First planet of extragalactic origin (artist’s impression)
Namaste
If time and space really are a relative thing then we will get around these issues, propelling us far into our universe
I'm really digging this thread, some very mind-expanding material being shared. Thanks guys!
there has to be latent energy in space that is harnessable. electricity is not something we make but rather harness into energy.
just a thought
just a thought
Well there's the obvious things like solar energy but given the distances involved in space travel there would likely be points where the sources of solar energy are too weak. Also to be practical the solar panels or whatever would need to be able to work with any sun regardless of whether or not the nature of that energy is different then from our own sun. Now if we could somehow manipulate or take advantage of the gravitational forces in space like we do ocean currents out at sea then that could maybe lead somewhere. As I understand it space being a vacuum once you get something going it stays going for a long time because there is no resistance. If we could perhaps find gravitational currents maybe we could use them to propel us in various directions at a high rate of speed without having to burn any sort of fuel? The trick then would be knowing at what angle to launch yourself to get to where you want to go and then when to stop or tap into other currents to modify your course. If one is to believe the knowledge of aliens claimed by things like Roswell, Area 51, etc. I've heard it said that scientists believe that what the aliens related to those places used was based on using gravitational forces.
Here's some info on the Dogon's and their religion: http://www.greenfaithministry.com/dogon.html
According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky
god and creator of the universe. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. [This is a
metaphor for our original 12-strand DNA. Our present physical DNA contains 2 strands which
hold the genetic codes for our physical evolvement.] One twin rebelled against the order
established by Amma, [This is a metaphor for one source/soul splitting into two polarities - yin
/yang, when it enters into the electro-magnectic energies of third dimension] thereby
destabilizing the universe. In order to purify the cosmos and restore its order, Amma sacrificed
another of the Nommo, whose body was cut up and scattered throughout the universe. This
distribution of the parts of the Nommo's body is seen as the source for the proliferation of Binu
shrines throughout the Dogon region. The Dogon say that their astronomical knowledge was
given to them by the Nommo. The Dogon elder, Ogotemelli, describes them variously as
having the upper part as a man and the lower portion as snake; or as having a ram's head with
serpent body. Author Robert Temple describes the Nommo as amphibious beings sent to
Earth from the Sirius star system for the benefit of humankind. They look like Merfolk;
Mermaids and Mermen. [Metaphor: amphibius - referring to the flow of the collective
unconscious - creational source]. After the landing in a space ship, something with four legs
appeared and dragged the vessel to a hollow, which filled with water until the vessel floated in
it. The Dogon, call this spaceship 'Pelu Tolo' or 'Star of the Tenth Moon'. These aliens
supposedly came from the Sirian star system. Their spaceship spiraled down from the sky. It
landed somewhere to the northeast of the Dogon's present homeland. There was a great
noise and wind. The ship landed on three legs, skidded to a stop, scoring the ground. Four
legs appeared and dragged the vessel to a hollow, which filled with water until the vessel
floated. At the same time a new star was seen in the sky, which possibly was a large space
ship. The star was described by the Dogon as having a circle of reddish rays around it. This
circle of rays was like a spreading spot yet it still remaining the same size. There is a Dogon
drawing of the spaceship hovering in the sky, waiting for the Nommo who landed on the Earth.
It represents three stages of 'Pelu Tolo' when it is spurting different amounts of blood or flames
[as if it crash landed]. They called the Nommo 'Masters of the Water', 'The Monitors', 'The
Teachers or Instructors', 'Saviors', and 'Spiritual Guardians.The Dogons believe their gods are
already here.
By Ellie
The Dogons have a unique distinction. Supposedly when they left Egypt and migrated to Mali
where they brought with them sacred knowledge in the form of oral traditions - perhaps
handed down by the ancient priests of Egypt. There are oral tradition about interaction with
Amphibious Gods who came to Earth from the star Sirius (now called Sirius A). Dogon
astronomical lore goes back at least 5000 years. This knowledge most likely dates back to
the time of the ancient Egyptian priests - who stored their knowledge as their civilization was
destroyed. This knowledge was too be part of our collective unconsciousness - to be
remembered - to be brought to the public - when it was time for humanity to make great
changes. These changes are reflected in all ancient prophecies. The information is about
creation by Geometry - Mathematical patterns or formulas. We sense change in our thinking
and our souls. We dream unusual dreams about changes and look for Magic in our lives,
movies, books, TV shows. We experience beyond third dimension. The souls of children,
teens and young adults are often called Indigo Children - Children of the Blue Ray sense this.
They are telekinetic sometimes moving objects - or bending objects with their minds. This
collective unconscious is a program of grids. The Dogon draw grids. They understand the
nature of our reality, based on an electromagnetic grid program that stores memory - The
Matrix is the grids. Following the pattern of the grids...... Dogon legend came with them from
Egypt based on the ancient religions and the mystery school teachings of Isis and Osiris. It all
begins in the area that was Sumer - The Cradle of Civilization - but in truth the area that
surround the Great Pyramid. The Egyptian Goddess Isis is identified by the Egyptians with the
star Sirius. The Dogons knew about Sirius long before modern man discovered the star
system. Their religious tradition, dating back to their Egyptian roots, was later imparted
through Greek migratory patterns. The name Sirius was given by the ancient Greeks. Planet
Earth has many metaphors, archetypes and symbols that help us understand the nature of our
creation. To this end we study the heavens and celestial blueprints and the physical planet, to
unravel secrets buried until it was time..... In the late 1930s, four Dogon priests shared their
most important secret tradition with two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germain
Dieterlen after they had spent an apprenticeship of fifteen years living with the tribe. These
were secret myths about the star Sirius, which is 8.6 light years from the Earth. The priests
said that Sirius had a companion star that was invisible to the human eye. They also stated
that: the star moved in a 50-year elliptical orbit around Sirius, that it was small and incredibly
heavy, and that it rotated on its axis. Initially the anthropologists wrote it off publishing the
information in an obscure anthropological journal, because they didn't appreciate the
astronomical importance of the information. What they didn't know was that since 1844,
astronomers had suspected that Sirius A had a companion star. This was in part determined
when it was observed that the path of the star wobbled. In 1862 Alvan Clark discovered the
second star making Sirius a binary star system (two stars). In the 1920's it was determined
that Sirius B, the companion of Sirius, was a white dwarf star. White dwarfs are small, dense
stars that burn dimly. The pull of its gravity causes Sirius' wavy movement. Sirius B is smaller
than planet Earth. The Dogon name for Sirius B is Po Tolo. It means star - tolo and smallest
seed - po. Seed refers to creation. In this case - human creation. By this name they describe
the star's smallness. It is, they say, the smallest thing there is. They also claim that it is the
heaviest star and is white in color. The Dogon thus attribute to Sirius B its three principal
properties as a white dwarf: small, heavy, white. The earliest Egyptians believed Sirius -
'Sothis' - was the home of souls that have crossed over. This belief is also shared with the
Dogon. Creation is linked to the Great Pyramid which links to Orion in the Kings Chamber
(male) and to Sirius in the Queens Chamber (female), Isis. Not far from the Pleaides, The
Seven Sisters, the sky is like a big giant map of messages, a blueprint, if you will, of creational
patterns. Ancient civilizations named the planets and created myths about them, all linked to
the heavens and gods who created humans and came to Earth from the sky. Isis and Osiris,
Zeus and Hera, Amma and his female counterpart. He had to have one as this matrix and grid
is all based on opposites - polarities - like a magnetic (north and south). The Star of Isis is
called Sothis, or Sirius and is the brightest star in our night sky. The Dogon also describe this
'star' specifically as having a circle of reddish rays around it, and this circle of rays is 'like a
spot spreading' but remaining the same size.The Dogons have described perfectly the DNA
pattern made by this elliptical orbit created by the two stars as they rotate make around each
other. They believe Sirius to be the axis of the universe, and from it all matter and all souls are
produced in a great spiral motion. The Dogon also claimed that a third star Emme Ya -
sorghum female - exists in the Sirius system. Larger and lighter than Sirius B, this star
revolves around Sirius A as well. It has not been proven to exist, though some people have
called it Sirius C. Sirius C translated from the Dogon language into English is called the "Sun
of Women". It is described by the Dogon as "the seat of the female souls of living or future
beings". Its symbol contains two pair of lines that are relevant features of a Dogon legend. The
Dogon believe that Sirius C sends out two pairs of beams and that the beams represent a
feminine figure. Some of the ancient Egyptian temples, such as the Temple of Isis at
Denderah, were created so that the light of the helical rising of Sirius would travel down the
main corridor to place its red glow upon the altar in the inner sanctum of the temple. When that
light reached the altar, the beam of light from Sirius was transformed into So this, the Star
Goddess, Isis. In a manner of speaking, the same belief system was involved in the Greek
Temples, such as the Parthenon, which were oriented to receive the beams of light from the
Pleiades into their inner sanctums, where the beams were then transformed into seven
women. As the beams from the Pleiades entered the Egyptian temple of Hathor it became the
seven Hathors female judges of mankind. Within the Dogon tradition, those pairs of feminine
figures beamed down from the Star/Sun/Planet of Women to their original home near the
Hoggar mountains bringing many aspects of civilization to the ancestors of their tribes. Dogon
oral traditions state that for thousands of years they have known that the Earth revolves around
the Sun, that Jupiter's has moons and that Saturn's has rings. The Dogons calendar is quite
non-traditional in that its fifty year cycle is based neither on the Earth's rotation around the Sun
(as is our Julian calendar) nor the cycles of the Moon (a lunar calendar). Instead, the Dogon
culture centers around the rotation cycle Sirius B which encircles the primary star Sirius A
every 49.9 - or 50 years.
According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky
god and creator of the universe. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. [This is a
metaphor for our original 12-strand DNA. Our present physical DNA contains 2 strands which
hold the genetic codes for our physical evolvement.] One twin rebelled against the order
established by Amma, [This is a metaphor for one source/soul splitting into two polarities - yin
/yang, when it enters into the electro-magnectic energies of third dimension] thereby
destabilizing the universe. In order to purify the cosmos and restore its order, Amma sacrificed
another of the Nommo, whose body was cut up and scattered throughout the universe. This
distribution of the parts of the Nommo's body is seen as the source for the proliferation of Binu
shrines throughout the Dogon region. The Dogon say that their astronomical knowledge was
given to them by the Nommo. The Dogon elder, Ogotemelli, describes them variously as
having the upper part as a man and the lower portion as snake; or as having a ram's head with
serpent body. Author Robert Temple describes the Nommo as amphibious beings sent to
Earth from the Sirius star system for the benefit of humankind. They look like Merfolk;
Mermaids and Mermen. [Metaphor: amphibius - referring to the flow of the collective
unconscious - creational source]. After the landing in a space ship, something with four legs
appeared and dragged the vessel to a hollow, which filled with water until the vessel floated in
it. The Dogon, call this spaceship 'Pelu Tolo' or 'Star of the Tenth Moon'. These aliens
supposedly came from the Sirian star system. Their spaceship spiraled down from the sky. It
landed somewhere to the northeast of the Dogon's present homeland. There was a great
noise and wind. The ship landed on three legs, skidded to a stop, scoring the ground. Four
legs appeared and dragged the vessel to a hollow, which filled with water until the vessel
floated. At the same time a new star was seen in the sky, which possibly was a large space
ship. The star was described by the Dogon as having a circle of reddish rays around it. This
circle of rays was like a spreading spot yet it still remaining the same size. There is a Dogon
drawing of the spaceship hovering in the sky, waiting for the Nommo who landed on the Earth.
It represents three stages of 'Pelu Tolo' when it is spurting different amounts of blood or flames
[as if it crash landed]. They called the Nommo 'Masters of the Water', 'The Monitors', 'The
Teachers or Instructors', 'Saviors', and 'Spiritual Guardians.The Dogons believe their gods are
already here.
By Ellie
The Dogons have a unique distinction. Supposedly when they left Egypt and migrated to Mali
where they brought with them sacred knowledge in the form of oral traditions - perhaps
handed down by the ancient priests of Egypt. There are oral tradition about interaction with
Amphibious Gods who came to Earth from the star Sirius (now called Sirius A). Dogon
astronomical lore goes back at least 5000 years. This knowledge most likely dates back to
the time of the ancient Egyptian priests - who stored their knowledge as their civilization was
destroyed. This knowledge was too be part of our collective unconsciousness - to be
remembered - to be brought to the public - when it was time for humanity to make great
changes. These changes are reflected in all ancient prophecies. The information is about
creation by Geometry - Mathematical patterns or formulas. We sense change in our thinking
and our souls. We dream unusual dreams about changes and look for Magic in our lives,
movies, books, TV shows. We experience beyond third dimension. The souls of children,
teens and young adults are often called Indigo Children - Children of the Blue Ray sense this.
They are telekinetic sometimes moving objects - or bending objects with their minds. This
collective unconscious is a program of grids. The Dogon draw grids. They understand the
nature of our reality, based on an electromagnetic grid program that stores memory - The
Matrix is the grids. Following the pattern of the grids...... Dogon legend came with them from
Egypt based on the ancient religions and the mystery school teachings of Isis and Osiris. It all
begins in the area that was Sumer - The Cradle of Civilization - but in truth the area that
surround the Great Pyramid. The Egyptian Goddess Isis is identified by the Egyptians with the
star Sirius. The Dogons knew about Sirius long before modern man discovered the star
system. Their religious tradition, dating back to their Egyptian roots, was later imparted
through Greek migratory patterns. The name Sirius was given by the ancient Greeks. Planet
Earth has many metaphors, archetypes and symbols that help us understand the nature of our
creation. To this end we study the heavens and celestial blueprints and the physical planet, to
unravel secrets buried until it was time..... In the late 1930s, four Dogon priests shared their
most important secret tradition with two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germain
Dieterlen after they had spent an apprenticeship of fifteen years living with the tribe. These
were secret myths about the star Sirius, which is 8.6 light years from the Earth. The priests
said that Sirius had a companion star that was invisible to the human eye. They also stated
that: the star moved in a 50-year elliptical orbit around Sirius, that it was small and incredibly
heavy, and that it rotated on its axis. Initially the anthropologists wrote it off publishing the
information in an obscure anthropological journal, because they didn't appreciate the
astronomical importance of the information. What they didn't know was that since 1844,
astronomers had suspected that Sirius A had a companion star. This was in part determined
when it was observed that the path of the star wobbled. In 1862 Alvan Clark discovered the
second star making Sirius a binary star system (two stars). In the 1920's it was determined
that Sirius B, the companion of Sirius, was a white dwarf star. White dwarfs are small, dense
stars that burn dimly. The pull of its gravity causes Sirius' wavy movement. Sirius B is smaller
than planet Earth. The Dogon name for Sirius B is Po Tolo. It means star - tolo and smallest
seed - po. Seed refers to creation. In this case - human creation. By this name they describe
the star's smallness. It is, they say, the smallest thing there is. They also claim that it is the
heaviest star and is white in color. The Dogon thus attribute to Sirius B its three principal
properties as a white dwarf: small, heavy, white. The earliest Egyptians believed Sirius -
'Sothis' - was the home of souls that have crossed over. This belief is also shared with the
Dogon. Creation is linked to the Great Pyramid which links to Orion in the Kings Chamber
(male) and to Sirius in the Queens Chamber (female), Isis. Not far from the Pleaides, The
Seven Sisters, the sky is like a big giant map of messages, a blueprint, if you will, of creational
patterns. Ancient civilizations named the planets and created myths about them, all linked to
the heavens and gods who created humans and came to Earth from the sky. Isis and Osiris,
Zeus and Hera, Amma and his female counterpart. He had to have one as this matrix and grid
is all based on opposites - polarities - like a magnetic (north and south). The Star of Isis is
called Sothis, or Sirius and is the brightest star in our night sky. The Dogon also describe this
'star' specifically as having a circle of reddish rays around it, and this circle of rays is 'like a
spot spreading' but remaining the same size.The Dogons have described perfectly the DNA
pattern made by this elliptical orbit created by the two stars as they rotate make around each
other. They believe Sirius to be the axis of the universe, and from it all matter and all souls are
produced in a great spiral motion. The Dogon also claimed that a third star Emme Ya -
sorghum female - exists in the Sirius system. Larger and lighter than Sirius B, this star
revolves around Sirius A as well. It has not been proven to exist, though some people have
called it Sirius C. Sirius C translated from the Dogon language into English is called the "Sun
of Women". It is described by the Dogon as "the seat of the female souls of living or future
beings". Its symbol contains two pair of lines that are relevant features of a Dogon legend. The
Dogon believe that Sirius C sends out two pairs of beams and that the beams represent a
feminine figure. Some of the ancient Egyptian temples, such as the Temple of Isis at
Denderah, were created so that the light of the helical rising of Sirius would travel down the
main corridor to place its red glow upon the altar in the inner sanctum of the temple. When that
light reached the altar, the beam of light from Sirius was transformed into So this, the Star
Goddess, Isis. In a manner of speaking, the same belief system was involved in the Greek
Temples, such as the Parthenon, which were oriented to receive the beams of light from the
Pleiades into their inner sanctums, where the beams were then transformed into seven
women. As the beams from the Pleiades entered the Egyptian temple of Hathor it became the
seven Hathors female judges of mankind. Within the Dogon tradition, those pairs of feminine
figures beamed down from the Star/Sun/Planet of Women to their original home near the
Hoggar mountains bringing many aspects of civilization to the ancestors of their tribes. Dogon
oral traditions state that for thousands of years they have known that the Earth revolves around
the Sun, that Jupiter's has moons and that Saturn's has rings. The Dogons calendar is quite
non-traditional in that its fifty year cycle is based neither on the Earth's rotation around the Sun
(as is our Julian calendar) nor the cycles of the Moon (a lunar calendar). Instead, the Dogon
culture centers around the rotation cycle Sirius B which encircles the primary star Sirius A
every 49.9 - or 50 years.
