Maria's Subtropical Outdoor Guerilla Grows with Connoisseur Genetics (Perpetual Journal)

[Maria Sanchez]

What an adventurous grow Maria!


No more mold and hassle for you now

Om Namah Shivaya

Thanks @Hasch !
No more on the harvested plants.
There will prob be some more on Grail NLD girl and maybe Little SSSTN.
But even in this terrible weather it spreads slowly.

I've got a few jars of stash already.
And will certainly have at least another jar or two more.

Just have to carefully plan my drying activities tomorrow.

Om namah shivaya!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

As SSSTN Big Girl has been hanging for the past 10 days, trying, rather unsuccessfully, to dry.

This is before trimming.

Trim away all the nasty stuff, and good stuff that was too close to the nasty stuff.

It's a pity, but it must be done.
The good stuff is in the jars.
Big jar on left is the sensimilla (maybe a couple of seeds in there). This jar is packed fairly tight.
Small jar on the right is the seeded flower from the lower branches pollinated by Mr ThaiFrican.

The very top of the big main cola of the Little SSSTN lady.
What I cut off was quite a bit longer than what you see in the pic.

Om namah shivaya!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Only just noticed looking at the photos.
After being cut and hanging for 10 days --- 10 days!! --- some of those pistils are still white.

Maybe I could have still taken a clone, hahahahahaa!

Oh, remember, there is still a big lower branch of Big Girl SSSTN alive and growing on the stump in the pot.

 

[badass-eu]

Good luck with drying @Maria Sanchez ! You were able to ensure offspring, the cutting would be a plus, enjoy your well-deserved harvest , Do you have a note on the smells?

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Good luck with drying @Maria Sanchez ! You were able to ensure offspring, the cutting would be a plus, enjoy your well-deserved harvest , Do you have a note on the smells?

Thanks for your support, @badass-eu !
I have offspring, yes, but I was joking about a cutting!
But, I did have an idea: if I can place this pot somewhere near some street-lighting, the light cycle may cause her to re-veg.
Then after she has re-vegged a bit, I can move her back here and flower her again!
I need to take note of where the street lights are near the garden.
It would not be difficult I think.

Smells: yes, many thoughts here.
But I find that smells change a lot from harvest, through drying and curing.
So I will wait a while and give a more complete report later on.

Same for the smoke testing.
I've already tried the Grail (indica pheno) and an early picked flower from the SSSTN Big Girl.
But they are both barely dry, so will wait until they are dried properly at least, if not cured yet, to report.

 

[ojd]

Maybe chop plants into individual branches when harvesting not whole plants to help speed up drying process and stop any mold forming because it's to cold to dry properly.

Great to see you get some finished product( I was thinking they might not finish at all with cold temps/season)

As SSSTN Big Girl has been hanging for the past 10 days, trying, rather unsuccessfully, to dry.

This is before trimming.

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Trim away all the nasty stuff, and good stuff that was too close to the nasty stuff.

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It's a pity, but it must be done.
The good stuff is in the jars.
Big jar on left is the sensimilla (maybe a couple of seeds in there). This jar is packed fairly tight.
Small jar on the right is the seeded flower from the lower branches pollinated by Mr ThaiFrican.

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The very top of the big main cola of the Little SSSTN lady.
What I cut off was quite a bit longer than what you see in the pic.

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Om namah shivaya!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Maybe chop plants into individual branches when harvesting not whole plants to help speed up drying process and stop any mold forming because it's to cold to dry properly.

Great to see you get some finished product( I was thinking they might not finish at all with cold temps/season)

Hi OJD,

Thanks for stopping by!
Yes, I certainly will cut them down into smaller branches for the future harvests.
I did that with the big bushy top of the late SSSTN already.
When I first cut down the early SSSTN the temps were still fine and I was in a rush (things to do).
Then the nasty weather hit and I couldn't make it to the site.

I tried my drying method at another site.
Already cut into individual small buds, I put them in big paper bags next to a dehumidifier.
After a few hours, the Grail (indica pheno) buds are about right.
The SSSTN is a lot drier, but I'll do the same technique again tomorrow (and over this week).
The aromas off the SSSTN are constantly changing.
As of today, some fruitiness, some paint thinner cross ammonia is kicking out.
Delicious and nasty at the same time.
Not bad nasty, dank nasty, hahahahaaa!
I guess it's the diesel in her, yeah?
Previous few days it was more fruity (maybe dried mango, apples?), cedar or maybe sandalwood notes in the back.

Did I mention the sticky? This is some serious sticky bud.
I feel like playing and sticking some to the wall for fun, but it would be a waste of nice bud.
Seriously sticky little buds.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

I need to think about the spring-summer grow season.

What shall I grow? Beans I have on page 1 and the crosses I made all with the ThaiFrican male.

Shall I go toward the remaining ThaiFrican regs (didn't manage a female to flower) 10-12 wks and Thai Madness fems (too tiny this round) 12-16 wks? I can add the Thai Madness x ThaiFrican seeds I made. Probably like 11-14 wks for these.

Or shall I go toward the remaining SSSTN fems (12-16 wks) plus some of the SSSTN x ThaiFrican seeds? Prob also 11-14 weeks.

Or shall I go toward the remaining Grail regs plus the Grail x ThaiFrican seeds? Maybe 10-12 weeks if I do the indica pheno Grail seeds, but definitely 11-14 if I use the NLD pheno seeds.

Or just run the Lemon 'n' Lime Jomes (Casey Jones x SSSDH) fems that I haven't touched yet? Supposedly just 8-10 weeks or something. Obviously more a hybrid than the haze / sativas.

Your suggestions, my worthy learned colleagues? How say ye?

 

[Maria Sanchez]

The other-site drying process continues with the SSSTN flowers.
Slowly but surely.
Did I mention how sticky they are?!

Those remaining lower branches of Big Girl SSSTN are about to hit 16 weeks this Thursday.
Will be interesting to see how they look, but it may have to wait until this coming weekend.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

For the next spring-summer grow, some thoughts...
Summer is wet. It's always wet here, but summer is wet.
Late summer is typhoon season. Those things will shred your plants, no joke.
July is the best to harvest -- lowest rainfall for that time of year, and typhoons barely starting.
Figuring in veg times (maybe 30-45 days to show sex), plus flowering times...
Might just run some of the seeds I made from the ThaiFrican male.
Thai Madness x ThaiFrican -- should be about 11-14 weeks flower.
Grail (both phenos) x ThaiFrican -- should be about 11-14 weeks flower as well.
Start maybe eight seeds of each, is 16.
Have maybe half, 8, make it to show sex.
Get 4 females. Or maybe run more, 10-12 of each.
(For reference, this round started 12 seeds, 4 fems + 8 regs, should be 8 females total, but harvested ... let's say 4 and ignore the Thai Madness issue.)
Save my original seeds from OJD for the fall to winter season, starting early September (end of typhoon season).
Or maybe throw in two of the fem Lemon 'n' Lime Jones this round, at 8-10 weeks flowering.
Maybe start those a couple of weeks later, aiming at a July finish.

 

[BC LONE WOLF]

Awesome show, love the courage to guerilla grow and amazing cultivars, props to you the grower and props to the breeder.

I thought you were in Spain hehe Maria Sanchez is an incredibly Spanish name.

Looking forward to your next grow.

 

[funkyhorse]

Hi there, I hope you dont mind
I see in first page you grow in cfa koppen environment
The first thing I can tell you is your cfa is very different from my cfa, different flora and fauna
I spent a couple of typhoons in your cfa. Crazy, no joke. Without protection plants cant survive
Do you speak the local language? Are you local or foreigner there?

If you cant protect the plants, can you bring a 50-60cms tall plant after the typhoon season to your growing spot? I am growing european hybrids now and they flower with 13 hours of light no problem, you can grow them all year at your spot. It will be tricky with tropicals or equatorials. For those the best would be to bring them out with some veg time after the typhoons, they should be showing sex for you end september and october
For harvesting in july, calculate 4 months at least before that time to bring the plants out. One month minimum for sexing if you bring them out with some vegetation,. what I am seeing here is 45 days take from seed the fastest to show sex. So if you start from seed the ideal time to sprout them at your spot would be now, they would show sex around end april and you have 3 months until harvest somewhere in july before the first typhoons come

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Awesome show, love the courage to guerilla grow and amazing cultivars, props to you the grower and props to the breeder.

I thought you were in Spain hehe Maria Sanchez is an incredibly Spanish name.

Looking forward to your next grow.

Thanks for stopping by and your kind words, @BC LONE WOLF
More credit to the breeder here than me.
Without these wonderful haze / sativa genetics, it's hard to have a decent mold-free harvest in a fall-winter grow here.
I just dropped them in the soil/coco and let nature do the rest, right?

Spain would be nice, but no, I'm not there.

Hopefully the next grow will be starting before this one even finishes!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Hi there, I hope you dont mind
I see in first page you grow in cfa koppen environment
The first thing I can tell you is your cfa is very different from my cfa, different flora and fauna
I spent a couple of typhoons in your cfa. Crazy, no joke. Without protection plants cant survive

Hey there @funkyhorse !

From reading your journals, I think our environments are similar, but obviously they're not going to be identical.
I've had some plants get shredded in typhoons, some survive with damage after hiding them in bushes.
But my new location is far more sheltered from typhoons due to the direction.
Still, it is a risk with a fully flowering head facing that kind of typhoon craziness...

Do you speak the local language? Are you local or foreigner there?

I speak the language and know the culture very well.
I'm a local foreigner, hehe.

If you cant protect the plants, can you bring a 50-60cms tall plant after the typhoon season to your growing spot? I am growing european hybrids now and they flower with 13 hours of light no problem, you can grow them all year at your spot. It will be tricky with tropicals or equatorials. For those the best would be to bring them out with some veg time after the typhoons, they should be showing sex for you end september and october

No, I can't grow them like that to place out later.
No way I can work with a 50 cm plant at home.
If I veg to 50 before placing out, they'll get too crazy big as well.
The bigger / taller plants do worst in the typhoons.

Yeah, most hybrids will just flower year-round here.
My present avatar pic is a La Buena Hierba Thai Gold photoperiod plant (Thai x Guerilla Gold).
That picture is flowering in July (if I recall correctly).
Similar for some other photos I've run here, like Mandala Safaris.

That's why I'm thinking do the crosses I just made for a trial run in this season.

For harvesting in july, calculate 4 months at least before that time to bring the plants out. One month minimum for sexing if you bring them out with some vegetation,. what I am seeing here is 45 days take from seed the fastest to show sex. So if you start from seed the ideal time to sprout them at your spot would be now, they would show sex around end april and you have 3 months until harvest somewhere in july before the first typhoons come

Yes, the time calculations, is what I was getting at in my post just above.
This last grow had sexing times of 32 days, 32 days, 42 days, and a bit longer for a runty seedling.
So yeah, 45 days is what I'm also working with.

You're right: I was planning on starting this weekend!

 

[ojd]

Hi

Great show you put on for us and look forward to your next run .
Maybe throw a few Lemon N Lime Jones Feminized down ( Casey Jones x SSSDH) and see how they do with the more wilder seeds I sent and the hybrids you made with them.
Lemon N Lime Jones is much quicker than the Nevil hybrids I sent but still heavy on Haze and great vigour and yield.

Either way look forward to your next journey

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Hi

Great show you put on for us and look forward to your next run .
Maybe throw a few Lemon N Lime Jones Feminized down ( Casey Jones x SSSDH) and see how they do with the more wilder seeds I sent and the hybrids you made with them.
Lemon N Lime Jones is much quicker than the Nevil hybrids I sent but still heavy on Haze and great vigour and yield.

Either way look forward to your next journey

Great idea!
At least a couple of the Lemon 'n' Lime Jones along with maybe some of the seeds I just made.

On another note, the drying process at the other site is still progressing nicely.
Just another day or two and they should be done.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Day 146 -- from sprouting!

11 Days since last photos + full report.
Weather was pretty horrible, cold, often wet.
Should normally be warmer, usually over 20C by now.
But it's been from 10C overnight to maybe 17C or 18C day.

Building Two:

2 X Grail Project NH18 x MM pheno 1 (reg) = (NH18 x MM pheno 1) x (NH21 x MML Male) (12-16 weeks)
In a 15L pot.
Last pollination day 69, 50 days / 7+ weeks ago.

Miss Grail (NLD pheno) -- Day 146 = 42V + 104F:

This later sativa/haze pheno had little touches of botrytis here and there throughout.
Not spreading much, but not surprising in this horrible weather.
So I cut her down, trimming each nugget off, and removed all the bad bits.
Maybe lost 20% or so in the end.
Pity, because she has a lovely shape.
Smells very fruity, a lot like the indica pheno, with a touch of citrus in there.

As the nugs went into the laundry drying bag, I removed what seeds I saw.
I confess that apart from the seeded lowers from the ThaiFrican cross, there were other seeds.
And I don't know if they are from the ThaiFrican pollen that just got blown around or from her brother (?) NH x MM x NH x MM that I left in the back of their pot.
And now those seeds are mixed.
Not ideal, but at least I know their mother, and the father is a heavy sativa / haze with some NHz at least.

Seed quality is very nice. Big, round, dark, mature.


2 X Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil (fem) = Swiss Thai Nevil 1 clone X SSSDH OJD cut Reversed (10-12 weeks?)
In a big 20L pot.
Last pollination day 69, 57 days / 8+ weeks ago.

The branch on the far right is actually the lower of the Big Miss SSSTN, at day 114 I think (16+ weeks)!
The rest is the Little Miss SSSTN in the back and left. The angle isn't great, but there's more to her than what you see here.

I cut down the last branch of the Big Miss and laundry bagged it after a very light trim.
Looks even stickier and juicier than the majority of the plant cut two weeks ago.

Little Miss SSSTN: Day 146 = 63V(?) + 83F

After removing the main top last visit the rest of the flower is pretty good.
Less hit than the Grail, I think partly because she is very fluffy and the calyxes are also small.
But still trimmed out the bad stuff.

She has a similar fragrance to the Big Miss SSSTN, but perhaps a little more citrus/lemon.
Certainly a fruit punch mix at this point, with faint paint thinner or acetone smells.
That's the flavors fresh on the plant and also coming from the drying buds cut last time.
The cut buds while being too early are still within a broad 'harvest window.'
In other words, they will be smokeable and have some value to them.

Namo Shivaya!

Fun, fun, fun!

Love and hugs,
~MJS

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Spring-Summer Grow Begins -- Maria among the Hazes!

Just dropped two fem Lemon 'n' Lime Jones seeds into pots.

• Lemon N Lime Jones = Casey Jones cut x SSSDH cut reversed (8-10 weeks)

Just dropped five reg Grail Project (early pheno) x ThaiFrican into pots.

• (Grail Project) NH18 x MM pheno 1 = (NH18 x MM pheno 1) x (NH21 x MML Male) (12-16 weeks)
• ThaiFrican = Outback Haze 2 clone x (Nevil Haze 23 x Kariba Male) (10-12 weeks)
  (I'm thinking the Grail x ThaiFrican should be about 10-11 weeks, as the mother was 80 days flower and the father was very fast to show sex and to flower. I'm calling the mother 'early pheno' rather than 'indica pheno' now, as I think it's more appropriate.)

Medium is maybe 40% coco coir, 40% potting mix, 20% worm castings, with some kelp meal, fine dolomite lime, mycorrhizae and other organic amendments.

The estimated harvest plan is have them come up mid March, show sex mid April to start of May (45-60 days), flower through to harvest in mid June to mid or late July (another 60 to 75 days), or trailing off into August.

Planted a bunch of other spring to summer seeds, tomatoes, zucchini, cucumber, aubergine, and some peas/beans.
Just need this weather to warm up and the sun to start showing more often again.

Not sure if I want a new thread for this grow, or just continue here...?
Leaving it here for now though.

Peace and Love,
~MJS

 

[AceHaze]

Hey Maria, too bad with the rainy weather at the end of flowering, but still a succesful grow!
Good choice with the Lemon n Lime Jones, I enjoyed my single plant i ran last year and did cross her to Mango Hashplant. IC Member Bevape is growing a few females of this cross right now...
Good luck with your new adventure!

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Hey Maria, too bad with the rainy weather at the end of flowering, but still a succesful grow!
Good choice with the Lemon n Lime Jones, I enjoyed my single plant i ran last year and did cross her to Mango Hashplant. IC Member Bevape is growing a few females of this cross right now...
Good luck with your new adventure!

Thanks @AceHaze !
Yeah, the look of that poor last Grail Girl is a bit unfortunate, to say the least.
Next fall I'll try to start them maybe September, a month earlier, give them less time in the cold at the end.
I originally wanted the Lemon 'n' Lime Incense, which is the L'n'L Jones x Dankincense, more haze/sativa in the mix.
But this L'n'L Jones cross should also be fire -- more a hybrid, but faster and chunkier, I'm sure.