marco renda pied @ htcc hahaha

[tetsuo78]

Who is Joe Pietri to say all this thing? nobody, Marco you should not publish lies, or he said she said story from someone who is frustrated. You try and make a medicinal magazine, but is just as commercial as all other.

Joe Pietri is a hash smuggler by trade, what make him so accurate. I think Joe Pietri is DEA! No, I know he is DEA!

Sam the Skunkman is not DEA, he is a legend. thank you sam for all!

Milla is the queen of dutch hashish.

What give treating yourself magazine the right to publish story that no one is agree with and people names are publish against their will. You can potentially ruin someone life. It's NOT true what you publish.

The whole conspiracy of the Seed business in Holland is giving the company you advertise in your magazine bad names. Marco is part of the conspiracy he is claim in his magazine: he sell also feminized seed!

Good luck making war in this peaceful scene

 

[Marco Renda]

Who is Joe Pietri to say all this thing? nobody, Marco you should not publish lies, or he said she said story from someone who is frustrated. You try and make a medicinal magazine, but is just as commercial as all other.

Joe Pietri is a hash smuggler by trade, what make him so accurate. I think Joe Pietri is DEA! No, I know he is DEA!

Sam the Skunkman is not DEA, he is a legend. thank you sam for all!

Milla is the queen of dutch hashish.

What give treating yourself magazine the right to publish story that no one is agree with and people names are publish against their will. You can potentially ruin someone life. It's NOT true what you publish.

The whole conspiracy of the Seed business in Holland is giving the company you advertise in your magazine bad names. Marco is part of the conspiracy he is claim in his magazine: he sell also feminized seed!

Good luck making war in this peaceful scene

Sorry but if you took the time to read the Ice Wars article you would see that PROOF was published. I never said that I agree with Joe Pietri especially on the Feminized seed issue as I too own a seed bank and all we produce and sell is FEMINIZED. LOL Yea right Joe Pietri a DEA you got to be kidding! I also know for a fact that Sam Skunkman tells lies to suit his needs as I caught him in a few myself! Now as for Treating Yourself being just as commercial as all the others I have to disagree as our publication is less than 35% advertising and we plan on keeping it that way! If we were wanting to be COMMERCIAL like the rest we would be accepting every single ad that comes to us and have 60% ads which is what all the others do.

Take Care and Peace
Marco

 

[Blue]

I dont know about "outing" people as it were, But what I will say is Marco is 100% correct & on the button for printing that bubblebags are a fucking rip off. There is no more then $5 worth of material per bag yet they start at around $70. I would call this taking the piss out of the public wouldnt you??

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

A product is only worth what people are willing to pay for it....

If you think you can produce a better quality product at a lower price, then why are you here?

I havent read the article yet, but now im very interested.

Hell, if nothing else, this fiasco is increasing the traffic over @ TY.

What is the phrase they say marco, the only bad publicity, is NO publicity?

There is already enough people who dissaprove of our community, do we really need to subject ourselfs to the same small minded filth slinging?

Anyway, im about to smoke some full melt from my Bubbleman Bubblebags and go find an issue of Marco Renda's Treating Yourself and enjoy the easiness of being at one with what is the world, and what not we expect of the world.


--BhT

 

[Green Supreme]

Little footage of Mr. Pietri in action working with some of his friends. You folks support this sorta thing? DEA interaction makes me nervous. Wonder if this was like part of his probation or something. Keep diggin Marco, you printed those things and like it or not, it has been noticed. Good luck covering all this up. I will leave you folks to your debate. Peace GS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDWzHkOTSDU

 

[MOneYMiKe]

wowzer's....

 

[Marco Renda]

Little footage of Mr. Pietri in action working with some of his friends. You folks support this sorta thing? DEA interaction makes me nervous. Wonder if this was like part of his probation or something. Keep diggin Marco, you printed those things and like it or not, it has been noticed. Good luck covering all this up. I will leave you folks to your debate. Peace GS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDWzHkOTSDU

What are you trying to insinuate GS? I have nothing to hide what so ever and who said anything about trying to cover this all up? If you think that I was wanting to hide something do you honestly think that I would be so public? I'm not here to win a popularity contest nor am I here to keep MJ ILLEGAL! Unlike yourself I DON'T use a FAKE made up name and hide behind a computer screen! Tell me when was the last time you got out and really tried to make a difference? Oh yea I forgot you support the LIERS and THIEFS that the article is written about!

Take Care and Peace
Marco

 

[prepress420]

Here is an interesting read on the situation:


http://www.viperslair.co.uk/tales/icecold.htm

 

[Guest]

Oh the drama! Great magazine Marco, very much enjoy the recent article about aromatic terpines. For the poster who feel some were "outed" please explain so? Many willingly put they names on public record documentation to get patent and ripoff others! Some out themself when the carrot dangle in front of thems nose. They can just smell the green, and no not canna.

We are in this hobby for helping and sharing, not for stealing and excluding. The rights to making water hash? har fucking har har. NOBODY DESERVE THAT RIGHT, it shall be human collective knowledge not for profit. Shame shame on many people, and congratulations to many. Those who patent something they do not invent/shall not have right to, have a hard time keep the patent unique. (Shall I patent the way to peel a bananna?) Evidence have prove this already imo. If we start to patent thing like this, please give credit to those people who truly figure it out. Not just rip off the local procedure and not kick back anything!

Marco keep on friend, the magazine is top notch. What was the bud picture on the cover of one of the recent mag. It was title simple "harvest". The covershot for the issue with the aromatic terpines and part 2 of ice wars.

Also just for record, I am not agree with Joe on everything. I am agree with the fact Marco have open his magazine up to any and all who would like to rebute with they facts. Usually if it walk like a skunk, and smell like a skunk....hehe we smoke it!

This is not aim at anyone, but rather in defense of Marco. Him have done nothing but open a format, if those who feel attack wish to get they side out. It have been offered by Marco and TY. If people feel this is untruth that is be publish, then the truth shall be very easy to get across. Let us have it, we are waiting??? Tick tock

by the way, I have bubbleman bubblebags. IMO bubbleman do enough good deeds and help many people, hims deserve my euro for sourcing the materials and stitching and such. The fact is patented, hrmmm. Although I do not like, is not my call to make. This fact, bubbleman is a good person, get my coin. Bubbleman always will get my coin, until the time come where I can source my own materials. Until then, bubbleman is go to imo for water hash. Is not go to for patent, but go to for materials sourced. Patents make our whole community less, is the greed factor. Intellectual ideas for canna shall be noted and credit due, but not in the monetary sense. This just my .02, sure many disagree

plant a seed, share indeed, free the weed

 

[Green Supreme]

Marco you keep distracting from the fact you chose to print an article that outs people publicly. As to hiding, isn't that what you did behind your Health Canada Exemption in the UK. First you speak of your medicine then you say you are entering the cup. You sure pick and choose what is acceptable according to your manipulations. Its folks like you that WILL bring down the med program in our country. All other things aside, you did choose as editor to out those folks, as you could very easily have edited that part. This is as good as saying it is acceptable. I wonder how many of these folks that you slam, you have approached to advertise in that rag you edit. Peace GS

ps. as to the rebuttals after seeing your opinion of those folks I highly doubt you would print rebuttals unedited

 

[Guest]

GS, you are free to start you own mag. I suggest you do so, why getting so heated? When one get heated and personal emotions involve thems can not see thing clearly. Which lead to assumption you clearly demonstrate.

Is like you are get on Marco without the people that are get "slam" putting they side out. It not Marco fault they do not get they side out, and it you assumption that Marco will edit to hims favor. Very mature?

Start you own mag, this community do not need to be fight from within.

Is not that I agree or disagree you GS, just that there a way to handle thing. Marco is do hims best, and imo very good job at be fair. Simply to take shot at hims for the lack of rebute from those get "slam". Not fault of Marco. Also there are many format for getting information out for rebute, not just Marco mag. Silence is imo in itself admission of guilt 75 percent of time. Then again, perhaps these people have not read the TY articles about them yet?

 

[Marco Renda]

Marco you keep distracting from the fact you chose to print an article that outs people publicly. As to hiding, isn't that what you did behind your Health Canada Exemption in the UK. First you speak of your medicine then you say you are entering the cup. You sure pick and choose what is acceptable according to your manipulations. Its folks like you that WILL bring down the med program in our country. All other things aside, you did choose as editor to out those folks, as you could very easily have edited that part. This is as good as saying it is acceptable. I wonder how many of these folks that you slam, you have approached to advertise in that rag you edit. Peace GS

ps. as to the rebuttals after seeing your opinion of those folks I highly doubt you would print rebuttals unedited

Yes I was entering a strain for FINEST MEDICINAL SEEDS which is a company that I own to try and help med patients with medicinal quality genetics. Yes I do sell seeds to retail outlets but I have also sent out hundreds of packs to exemptees for FREE! The Afghani Bullrider is 1 hell of a strain and it has worked well for most of my ailments plus those who suffer from Crohns. Yes it was my medicine and yes I had planned on entering it into the HT Seed Company Cup.

There are plenty of Dutch seed company that are still going to stay on and continue to advertise with me as they unlike you have gotten to know me personally and choose to continue to support me and Treating Yourself magazine. Funny that both Sam Skunkman and Robert Clarke tried to get them to pull all their support.

Like I said the information that I published is already in print prior to me printing it so I really didn't see a problem in leaving it as it is. I DON'T edit articles for content all we edit for is grammar and spelling.

If you have been reading previous issues you would see that I also publish letters that were not favourable.

So GS why do you continue to support and defend liers and rip off artists?

Take Care and Peace
Marco

 

[Green Supreme]

These people cannot defend themselves they are in the midst of litigation, I would imagine. Funny you say "Is not that I agree or disagree you GS, " yet the same is not allowed for me. You see for me the issue is not who did what first {That will be handled in court}, for me the issue is a cannabis mag outting folks{Good or bad seems you folks agree with outting}. I have yet to choose a side but cannot help be nervous about a cannabis based mag outting cannabis folks. I mean you may not like the business practices of these folks, but how many of you would have chosen to out them{Those folks would make me nervous too} or feel that their real names and internet names should be in print? I am thinking that some folks are putting blinders on outta popularity. Good luck in all yous do. Peace GS

 

[Green Supreme]

Well Marco unlike you prejudging, I will wait for the courts to make their decision and will not be fooled to taking sides till that's done. Talks cheap and if that case was so cut and dried, as you and Joe state don't you think court proceeding would be done by now. As to the seeds seized, bet you woulda pocket cash from that too. Just another Narco manipulation. The issue for me is the outting folks real and internet names. Good luck man, I will stop pointing out the obvious to folks wearing blinders. Peace GS

 

[Guest]

They give this annomous up when they put name on patent? I am not from you countries, so please educate me. Thank you.

I understand you come from GS, just not how you are handle it with the discussion. Are you more on the know about this things than us? Please enlighten us. I wish for the truth, but we can only take what is give to us. Thank you for you alternate view, and will keep up with this as thing progress.

Is up to us. You, I, each of us to make our own opinions. I value you opinion as much as the rest, and it help to make the most informed opinion for myself. The more opinion the better, the more fact the better.

People can only out themself. Supose they stay annonomous and not patent this things, they would not be in litigations? Hrmmmmm Keep fingers out of soemone else honey jar. Karma friends, karma.

 

[razz]

uh, just for the record, bubbleman asked Mila if she wanted to be partners with him on this huge venture before he started it. she passed on the deal. bubbleman said thanks, and pursued his endeavor solo. sorry, no ripping off here. did Bic steal the lighter idea from Zippo? not hardly!

 

[Guest]

Just like to say that I appreciate anyone and everyone in the canna hobby and with nothing bad to happen to any. Without travel in one shoes is impossible to pass judgement.

Please take any and all my thoughts as open ended opinion, and after further thinking I can understand GS feelings more and more. Not that I disagree with what I say before, just that is more complex than right or wrong. One of those damn if you do, damn if you do not.

 

[Skip]

I DON'T edit articles for content all we edit for is grammar and spelling.

I've agreed with all you said Marco, except for this. I believe the editor/publisher of a magazine should take other factors into consideration. You can republish anything else that's already in the public domain (with permission of course), but that can still leave you liable if there is slander. Just because someone else published it, doesn't mean it's OK and you won't be held responsible.

If there were to be a lawsuit against Joe Pietri over his book, you will also be named a defendant since you ALSO published these excerpts.

When people's credibility, reputations and businesses are at stake, it behooves the editor/publisher to FACT CHECK any accusations that might result in litigation, unless you have a bottomless pocket to pay legal expenses and judgments against you and your company.

The bottom line is: the publisher is responsible for what gets published.

You're responsible unless you publish a disclaimer for your mag stating that your are not responsible for any of the content, like we do here on icmag (bottom of every page) where the public can publish their own words directly on the Internet without editing or moderation.

And even if you do that, it might not help your situation. For instance if someone takes offense to having their real identity published linking them to internet accounts, you might be liable for invasion of privacy. I get threatened with legal action occasionally when someone posts up a REAL name on one of my sites, if I don't delete it right away.

So this is my advice, Marco. Read everything and edit anything that might come back at ya!

 

[Sundance]

Love ya Marco

But your wrong to publish such a thing ... to take sides ... be judge and jury

I would leave the slinging out of the magazine .. let private parties and the courts sort out any illegality - if there is one

Pretty easy

Sundance

 

[Green Supreme]

Harumph harumph. Peace GS