Maple leaf indica....Selection for medicinal use

[longshot]

Hi there hidingtree,

ihad the presumption it actually had maple leaf shaped leaves

The leaves on plant 1 do actually resemble those of a maple. I will try and do some pics later to show you. Also, Maple Leaf Wilson was not named so by his parents...I believe he aquired the name because of the wide leaf strains he was working with. Therefore, your initial presumption was correct. I hope that helps.
Take care,
longshot

 

[FIREGOD]

i think homegrown fantaseeds has this also... they called it an "old ed" strain ,,,,,ed wilson??? maple leaf wilson??? maole leaf indica>>>>

 

[mischievous]

whats new? do u think a light leek may have been the reason for the hermie?

 

[longshot]

Hi mischevious thanks for your interest man.
I'm sorry I haven't updated lately, but I've been having some problems with my pc and I haven't been online. I'd like to say it's all sorted, but 'working at the moment' would be a better description.

do u think a light leek may have been the reason for the hermie?

There is absolutely no chance whatsoever that a light leak was responsible for the hermi. The plant was looking and growing fine. I think that it was born hermi.
I've grown a few sensi seeds varieties in the past and I've always been happy enough with the results, but I don't seem to be having much luck with these MLI. I have never seen such diversity from a single packet of seeds. 5 phenos expressed in 5 plants and they call it 'Maple leaf indica' as if it's a variety??? This would have been much better labelled as an 'adventure mix' or 'breeders mix' or maybe even 'nothing like we say it is'.
Still, if I find something that performs the required medicinal task then it will have been worth it.
I've got a few pics that I've taken recently and I will take a few more and post them up over the next few days....if my pc holds up!
Take care,
longshot

 

[A.N.Other]

That's a shame man, the pack I had was very consistant, the only really difference was columnular vs bush style. Maybe a bad batch or perhaps the burn hit them hard. I have seen ph/fert burn cause some weird phenotypical expressions.

Good luck with the rest of the grow.

 

[Guest]

I've been interested in Sensi's Maple Leaf Indica for a while as it has/had the reputation of being one of the best Afghani varieties available. I have to say, this grow has turned me off buying a pack, no reflection on the grower, just on the genes, have to say that Sensi do sem to have dropped in quality in the last few years. Of the 6 plants they are very varied, one hermie, that to me is not what I expect from a top seed company. Only the broadest leafed pheno looks like the Maple Leaf Indica grows I've seen in the past, very disappointing.

Interesting info on the origins of the MLI, I didn't know it was a hybrid of different Afghanis, i thought it was an IBL brought out of the country in the 70s just before the Soviet invasion.

I've been lucky enough to be gifted some pure landrace Afghani beans that were collected by a soldier in April 2006, I think near Kandahar. I'm looking forward to growing them out soon. I've got a few other landrace and ibl indicas to grow out and when I've finished with my current crop of sativas I'm doing an all indica grow to look forthe best individuals to clone and make crosses.

I think I'll order some Mandala Hashberry instead of MLI, having seen this grow.

My heart really goes out to ya longshot, you have a nice grow, I use similar sized pots in a similar sized space. I too have been bitterly disappointed by seeds I've bought not turning out as they should. I had hermies in a pack of Jack Herer three years ago and also in Durban Poison so haven't bought any Sensi Seeds since. When I started out growign in the mid 90s I swore by Sensi, my first dozen grows were Sensi varieties and I remember their Shiva Shanti, Hash Plant, Afghani #1 and Northern Lights with fond memories, but it just seems they haven't kept up with the quality control. I wish I'd made F2s of those old varieties, somehow I tend to think if I bought those same strains now they wouldn't be as good.

I can recommend Seedsman's Hashplant and Afghani #1 as I've grown them recently and loved them, just like the old Sensi strains of the same name, as they both came from the same source (Sam The Skunkman) originally, makes you wonder what Sensi have done to them in the last 20 years. Also, KC Brain's Afghani Special is very good, despite being very cheap. Only issue I had was a problem with starting seeds, the seedlings seemed really weak and needed a lot of TLC to get them through their first 2 weeks. I had three phenos, 2 phenos were similar, classic Afghani xmas tree and reached just over 2 feet and yielded well, buds were very dense, difference was in smell and taste, one was garlic/cheese the other more fruity and tangy. The third pheno was a foot taller and yielded a little higher but the buds were less dense and was slightly less potent. As they are so cheap, you could pick up a couple of packs and be sure to find a keeper.

 

[guineapig]

Thanks for the details and advice British_Hempire......very knowledgable and helpful...

kind regards from guineapig

 

[longshot]

Good morning all!
British_Hempire, great info on the Afghani's. Damn good post! You know you have to make that affy landrace available to all don't you!?

i thought it was an IBL brought out of the country in the 70s just before the Soviet invasion.

Me too! That is what Sensi hint at in there spiel on the strain, after all.
Like I said earlier, I have also had good luck with sensi in the past. Super skunk is one of my all time fav's. I had some from them in the early nineties but I hear it ain't the same now. NL#5xHaze ripped my face clean off, but again, I hear it just isn't like it used to be now. Recent luck with sensi includes Mothers Finest, my favourite herb at the moment. I've been running the same pheno for 2 or 3 years now, it really is lovely! Like you, however, that is it for me and Sensi. There is no need to waste time on crap genetics with all the other great strains around. Now I know why sensi don't sell weed in their coffee shop!!
I promised some pictures a little while back....these are from about 5 weeks 12/12..
The maple leaved pheno, plant 1..

The group..

Plant 1

Plant 2

Plant 3

Plant 4

Plant 6

I will try and get round to some upto date pics over the next couple of days, I reckon plant 3 is nearly done so I'l get it done before I chop.....and don't forget the next batch! 4 more MLI clones are now sat waiting to follow these in. I will put them in some 'kinder' soil so you don't have to look at curly leaves!

My heart really goes out to ya longshot

Thanks British_Hempire,but don't worry about me too much....after all I do have this C99 to console me...
Exactly the same conditions as the MLI..

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I'll see you all soon, take care,
longshot

 

[gooboo]

Has anyone grown Sensi's Northern Lights lately?...is the quality still there? A hundred and ten bucks for something that may not be worth ten would be a rude awakening for anybody. Especially if you're expecting a true Northern Lights grow and high.

 

[T.doT.Toker]

Sorry to hear your dissappointment longshot. I wasnt aware that the quality of the MLI had gone down in recent years. If they keep the same clones for all these years then how can the genes change? You think they change breeding parents?

 

[old dude]

What a thread, what a thread...I can't get enough info on the affy, and kush......A must for the chronic pain person imo....


Thanks for all the posts guys

 

[longshot]

I wasnt aware that the quality of the MLI had gone down in recent years. If they keep the same clones for all these years then how can the genes change? You think they change breeding parents?

Hi TdT, thanks for looking in man.
I too had heard only good things about MLI, hence my choice. I'd heard the odd murmur about Sensi's quality of late, but as I have always had good luck with them I thought I would give them the benefit of the doubt.
Only Sensi know whether they have changed the breeding parents or not.

Now, I have another 4 different females at around a week of 12/12. Unfortunately, my camera has packed up but I should have accquired another before they are done, so I'll make sure to take some shots of the plants later in flower. They are in a different compost, so no curly leaves this time!

Take care,
longshot

 

[T.doT.Toker]

Good to hear. From another thread i take it you took test buds. Hopefully they turn out better after a good cure.