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malawi , zamaldelica , banghi haze

jebus66

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thanks mostly :D do you think banghi haze would do good in the same photoperiod? yeah i do like to keep active but i don't mind being a bit spaced out, would panama be less heavy?
 

The Hatter

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also about zamaldelica, since tripping is nothing new to me (not on weed) i'm sort of affraid these minor visuals would not really impress me , do people with experience in hallucinogens still find these visuals interesting?

These things are very subjective. Although zamaldelica is one of the most "visual" strains I have run across it's certainly not going to give you the sort of visuals you are thinking of associated with like 5 hits of acid. I would describe my favorite pheno of zamaldelica is being slightly like when you first start to come up on mescaline before it kicks in properly. It's uplifting, a bit trippy and you have the feeling that you are on some sort of adventure. It's rather clear headed and stimulating in a way reminiscent of true psychedelics. I get minor visual distortions from it. If you really want to try and trip on it then make some potent edibles.
 

jebus66

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seems like it's still a stimulating experience :D
also i can't really find any smoke reports on panama, would it finish earlier than malawi or zamaldelica
 

The Hatter

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seems like it's still a stimulating experience :D
also i can't really find any smoke reports on panama, would it finish earlier than malawi or zamaldelica

I grew the original Zamaldelica release with the Thia in it which was a lot more unstable and longer flowering than the current version. I ended up flowering two females. One went a bit over 14 weeks from flip the other went 18 1/2. My panama was pretty quick coming in around 11 weeks if I remember properly.

That long flowering Zammy is special. It has a good strong uplifting head rush and euphoria but your mind really wanders on it, you end up staring into spacing daydreaming crazy stuff while you are in the middle of doing something like pouring yourself a drink. Last night I really took it for it's full crash test. Instead of smoking just a couple of puffs like I normally do I sat down and smoked it half the night and now 10 hours later I still feel the after effects of it. It's crazy long lasting.

As far as Panama goes it is much less of a kick in the skull than some of the African hybrids you are comparing it to. It's still strong, but it has a mellower, floating sort of daydream feel to it. It's not like an indica where it puts you to sleep but there is a sunny peacefulness to the experience. It's slightly trippy and foggy. You are left kinda drifting along on it. I found it very euphoric.
 

Holeshot

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I totally agree with Hatter on those descriptions.Zamaldelica is very a visual high , sometimes think I'm seeing and hearing things. I feel like I could run a marathon though. Panama is a very blissful high , want to talk and do more fun things.. Always gives good vibes and smiles.Oh and the smell of Zamaldelica is just amazing .
 

Dropped Cat

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I made some water hash from some of the Z 01 Zamaldelica I grow.

Got about 1.5 grams from the process, smells kinda sweet, tastes
like cooked onions, in a good way, lol

Makes me so happy, i share it with my wife, she loves me for it.
 

dubi

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so i've been growing mostly sativa dom hybrids and i wanted to try out some ace strains, i was mostly interested in these 3 but i wanted to chose 2 so malawi OR zamaldelica AND banghi haze
i know there are threads discussing these strains but no one really gets to the point about their flowering times and smoke reports so yes i could go through all of the rambling and find some descriptions but i would really appreciate it if someone who has grow them would help me out, i was mostly interested in knowing flowering times(the real ones) and i guess smoke reports on these strains without the usual rambling and off topic stuff that goes on in these other threads, also most of them are pretty outdated now, thanks in advance :huggg:

:huggg:thanks for the help man , yeah ace seeds really stood out for me , yeah the malawi seems to be less complex in taste, i wasn't really considering panama but now i don't even know x)
do you know how many weeks or days it took on average after the start of budding for each strain?
i saw somewhere that the GT had the harshest comedown do you agree or do they all have mellow comedowns? also which one do you think streches the most? sorry for the interrogation x)

i agree i wouldn't pick any strain just based on taste but it still matters, yeah malawi seems really tempting but when people describe it's high as heavier what does that mean? is it still very cerebral? also i like that it's really long lasting but there's other things that matter to me like the comedown and if there's a low "ceiling" to the high
so do panama malawi and zamaldelica mature at around the same time? i thought panama would finish earlier, and the fewer phenos the better

Welcome jebus66,

All our strains have been bred and tested for years in southern Europe so i don't think you will have any problem finishing Malawi, Panama, Golden Tiger and Zamaldelica.
They all finish approx around the same time (with the exception of the taller thai Golden Tiger phenos that could take 1-2 weeks more to finish than the rest).

if you let me know your latitude, type of climate, growing variables for the plants (hours of direct light per day, type of soil, size of pots, temps in the different seasons, veg times, etc ...) then we can estimate better the final yield of your plants and probably the moment for the harvest too, although there are many other things to take into consideration like plagues, heavy winds/storms, etc .... that could affect the final yield of your plants, so it's hard to give a very concrete answer about the final yields, but if they are correctly grown i can asure you that the yield will be very high and the flowers super potent.

Malawi is super strong and has a heavier come down, the effect is very cerebral but at the same time very heavy physically and very long lasting, it's a super complex and strong experience in all senses. Some Panama are closer in potency to the best Malawis, but Panama is much tastier in average.
 

jebus66

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thanks for the help dubi :D
my latitude is 38º the weather is mediterranean, i'll be growing indoors with a 400w hps but i'll probably do this outdoor season too, i'll try to find a place where the plants get direct light all day the soil is organic and pots with 50 l minimum , the plants would be started indoor for 3-4 weeks and placed outside in may probably, the summer is pretty hot and in the autumn the temps never go lower than 5ºc, the rains and winds start in the end of september/ october, maybe the banghi haze would do better outside
 

jebus66

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also if i wanted to grow one of your indica leaning strains what would finish earlier outdoor and what would be mold resistant
 

dubi

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thanks for the help dubi :D
my latitude is 38º the weather is mediterranean, i'll be growing indoors with a 400w hps but i'll probably do this outdoor season too, i'll try to find a place where the plants get direct light all day the soil is organic and pots with 50 l minimum , the plants would be started indoor for 3-4 weeks and placed outside in may probably, the summer is pretty hot and in the autumn the temps never go lower than 5ºc, the rains and winds start in the end of september/ october, maybe the banghi haze would do better outside

Hi jebus66,

Our strains are bred at 37º latitude in a mediterranean coastal climate, they will work perfectly at your location. You can easily get more than 200 grams per plant using 50 liter pots, but is also depends a lot on many variables ...

I usually don't like to give my opinion about the concrete final weight of a strain, you can get 15 grams from a plant or 1.5 kilo from the same seed, just try to do your best to grow them correctly and they will reward you generously.

If i had to choose an indica dominant strain from our catalogue i would recommend you Kali China for sure. If you like purple indicas Violeta is a good one too, but if you ask me Kali China is my favourite by far.
The new Snow Moon could be interesting for you too.

Hope it helps.
 

jebus66

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thanks dubi , i think i might even do 100 l we'll see, outdoors i was pretty set on doing the banghi haze( i'll grow it indoors with the panama first) but i'll be growing with a friend and he wanted some indicas too even though i have bad experiencies with the rains in the end of summer and indicas anyways thanks i think my experience with ace seeds will keep on being very positive :D
 
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