Malawi X Caribe ?
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Quick update,
So I've been playing around with a 10/14 flower cycle both from seed and also after a little vedge time....didn't really work in the ways I expected and that's fine by me, it was a fun experiment..neat things happen.
But anyway , as it goes now, I'm going with a 12/12 from seed with the Caribe x Malawi..
Really like how this cross has turned out so far, pretty uniform with a few distinct characters,, of the 24 younglings, One elegant hazey looking pheno stands out...much more a Caribe looking pheno with a bit of an "edgy" look to her...the preflowers are aggressive and look wicked.
Right now not much for worthy pics, , but I will keep updating my adventures with this cross.
So I've been playing around with a 10/14 flower cycle both from seed and also after a little vedge time....didn't really work in the ways I expected and that's fine by me, it was a fun experiment..neat things happen.
But anyway , as it goes now, I'm going with a 12/12 from seed with the Caribe x Malawi..
Really like how this cross has turned out so far, pretty uniform with a few distinct characters,, of the 24 younglings, One elegant hazey looking pheno stands out...much more a Caribe looking pheno with a bit of an "edgy" look to her...the preflowers are aggressive and look wicked.
Right now not much for worthy pics, , but I will keep updating my adventures with this cross.
Here is a Mangobiche x peyote purple finishing up from the 10/14 from seed flower cycle,.. This did better than the caribe x Malawi with it and also with 24/0.....this is an excellent variety, I may revedge the stump of this one.
I think the purple Malawi x Caribe will do very well and naturally on 12/12 from seed ,
I also changed my tent around , more of a micro SOG thing , with intense lighting...spread out lights and added a few plug and play power strip mod jobs with screw in led to fill gaps....
But thought you'd all like to see a 10/14 bud nub on a 1 gallon bucket.
I think the purple Malawi x Caribe will do very well and naturally on 12/12 from seed ,
I also changed my tent around , more of a micro SOG thing , with intense lighting...spread out lights and added a few plug and play power strip mod jobs with screw in led to fill gaps....
But thought you'd all like to see a 10/14 bud nub on a 1 gallon bucket.
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Some random thoughts and info(wake and bake)
So Obviously my tent setup has influenced my experimentation, but I feel now on 12/12 from seed the Caribe X Malawi will do what I'm looking for..
My 2 tents are 4x2x4 and 2x2x3, now running 12/12 Sativa's from seed SOG 1 gallon, but I got some 2 gallon I might try also....
The other one is running a micro Hempy SOG with autos under 24/0 light...pretty much 1 liter bottles cut up into hempys, 4 inch diameter...
So pretty much the standard 2 grow room light regime setup, but I'm using both for flowering SOG from seed....with a micro setup its looking like a very fun way to go about it...
The autos are a supersilver haze auto(BB) x OG kush auto(flash) pollen chucking I did which I got lots of good seed from to play with.
I also dusted one of these sshxog autos with some caribe pollen and have a handful of those to play with outdoors...
I was thinking of outdoors open pollinating my Caribe x auto f1's. With these Nicole kush x early Moroccan f1 freebies.... In the hopes of creating a new super gorilla strain.....I wonder how the early Moroccan automatic sativa flowering genetics and the ruderalis genetics will play out from an f1 to a f2 ......also the resiliency of both the Jamaican and Moroccan for very different and difficult climates with huge growth and low requirements... The Nicole kush I believe is just another really nice OG clone thrown in to improve the Moroccan stability and quality.... But anyway that's my summer outdoor plans...was gonna do these in a very minimally worked plot and use the best ones by natural selection ..
And back to the Caribe x Malawi , really pretty uniform , but I think this mix if done Again by the professionals will want to maximize the chances I think for this "Angry Jamaican" pheno....not sure of the parental plants available from the Caribe lines...but its fun to ponder.
So Obviously my tent setup has influenced my experimentation, but I feel now on 12/12 from seed the Caribe X Malawi will do what I'm looking for..
My 2 tents are 4x2x4 and 2x2x3, now running 12/12 Sativa's from seed SOG 1 gallon, but I got some 2 gallon I might try also....
The other one is running a micro Hempy SOG with autos under 24/0 light...pretty much 1 liter bottles cut up into hempys, 4 inch diameter...
So pretty much the standard 2 grow room light regime setup, but I'm using both for flowering SOG from seed....with a micro setup its looking like a very fun way to go about it...
The autos are a supersilver haze auto(BB) x OG kush auto(flash) pollen chucking I did which I got lots of good seed from to play with.
I also dusted one of these sshxog autos with some caribe pollen and have a handful of those to play with outdoors...
I was thinking of outdoors open pollinating my Caribe x auto f1's. With these Nicole kush x early Moroccan f1 freebies.... In the hopes of creating a new super gorilla strain.....I wonder how the early Moroccan automatic sativa flowering genetics and the ruderalis genetics will play out from an f1 to a f2 ......also the resiliency of both the Jamaican and Moroccan for very different and difficult climates with huge growth and low requirements... The Nicole kush I believe is just another really nice OG clone thrown in to improve the Moroccan stability and quality.... But anyway that's my summer outdoor plans...was gonna do these in a very minimally worked plot and use the best ones by natural selection ..
And back to the Caribe x Malawi , really pretty uniform , but I think this mix if done Again by the professionals will want to maximize the chances I think for this "Angry Jamaican" pheno....not sure of the parental plants available from the Caribe lines...but its fun to ponder.
So its getting interesting again, getting everything dialed in, I'm a grower that only grows for himself so I tend to try lots of different things a lot , I always have what I need so yield is never really even a concern even with my micro setup. But fear not, I got some time to dial in these sweet peas.
The bigger ones in there now are the female survivors from seed the 10/14 and 24/0. Some transplanted some not, but all abused and not to potential,, but happy and Now sitting comfortably at 12/12 where they will stay forever..
Don't worry I did things the right way
I typically have a very high female ratio when I grow probably 90+%or damn near 100% really, , but I was having weird problems with the Caribe x Malawi on A 24/0 and the 10/14 that the indica influenced plant did not have...so now on 12/12 and a more dialed in nutes, a few new seeds and everything is happy and popping now.
Also this is the "angry Jamaican" pheno...only 1 out of 24 seeds so far,,, not up to its potential, but you can clearly see the Jamaican structure with Malawi influence,,,, for the most part , the rest of them are very uniform hybrid looking things of almost their own thing, they look good.,,the newly popped seeds starting on the12/12 will tell a more full story, they also are getting a food they like better than the others started on...
The bigger ones in there now are the female survivors from seed the 10/14 and 24/0. Some transplanted some not, but all abused and not to potential,, but happy and Now sitting comfortably at 12/12 where they will stay forever..
Don't worry I did things the right way
I typically have a very high female ratio when I grow probably 90+%or damn near 100% really, , but I was having weird problems with the Caribe x Malawi on A 24/0 and the 10/14 that the indica influenced plant did not have...so now on 12/12 and a more dialed in nutes, a few new seeds and everything is happy and popping now.
Also this is the "angry Jamaican" pheno...only 1 out of 24 seeds so far,,, not up to its potential, but you can clearly see the Jamaican structure with Malawi influence,,,, for the most part , the rest of them are very uniform hybrid looking things of almost their own thing, they look good.,,the newly popped seeds starting on the12/12 will tell a more full story, they also are getting a food they like better than the others started on...
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Thought of sharing the mangobiche peyote purple again in natural light, I wetted a couple caribe x Malawi seeds to take its place in a few days...but this gal has been teased throughout the thread and needs a closing story as well...not keeping any clones or revedging, but the quality is worth it , if its on your radar...more indica influence than I'm looking for, but huge potential.
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Its gonna be the story of this lonely angry Jamaican for a few weeks.... The other ones have come around a bit and looking good breed wise, the others are looking more like the "AJ". I'm looking for,,,I just put them all through serious abuses to start.... But I know how sold I got these beans now ...
Really liking how this purple Malawi x Caribe cross is coming out....good mix of both in the hybrid all around.... The smell of " AJ' is really neat is all I can say at this point....fruty incense herbal spices
Expecting to see a colorful surprise in a few of them..
Very pretty this one, I'm getting excited.I'm liking the cross better than the individual for sure on this one
...Really liking how this purple Malawi x Caribe cross is coming out....good mix of both in the hybrid all around.... The smell of " AJ' is really neat is all I can say at this point....fruty incense herbal spices
Expecting to see a colorful surprise in a few of them..
Very pretty this one, I'm getting excited.I'm liking the cross better than the individual for sure on this one
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Looks like resin production won't be a problem for the "AJ" pheno....showing better and earlier resin production than the Malawi and Caribes I've grown...smell is very complex
Really hitting stretch now, I'll show the others with the AJ soon, they are looking better, ...they were all so abused I didn't want you all to see and get the wrong Idea.
Really the more I think about and look into the Purple Malawi X Caribe , the more I realize how solid it is...
Would be fun to do regular seeds with the Top JBM male and the old killer mom, find some mean phenos for sure
Really hitting stretch now, I'll show the others with the AJ soon, they are looking better, ...they were all so abused I didn't want you all to see and get the wrong Idea.
Really the more I think about and look into the Purple Malawi X Caribe , the more I realize how solid it is...
Would be fun to do regular seeds with the Top JBM male and the old killer mom, find some mean phenos for sure
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OK so here's full update,,
I had some in yogurt cups as an experiment, needless to say don't ever put a Jamaican hybrid in a yogurt cup.
Now added a few 1.6 gallon buckets to try out, I got a bunch of these, probably end up going to all these by my hunch.
AJ. Smells now almost completely like pink grapefruit.... Its pretty fantastic
Fruity sweet and sour is dominate across most of them , found one with a "skunky" and one that smells straight like NL...that one is deff a NL pheno..darker green than all others and stout.
But similar smells to purple Malawi mostly but intensified aromas overall than the parents.
You can see I really deprived them of nutrients and root bound them , so its hard to really say how they should look....the AJ is just an invincible pheno
I had some in yogurt cups as an experiment, needless to say don't ever put a Jamaican hybrid in a yogurt cup.
Now added a few 1.6 gallon buckets to try out, I got a bunch of these, probably end up going to all these by my hunch.
AJ. Smells now almost completely like pink grapefruit.... Its pretty fantastic
Fruity sweet and sour is dominate across most of them , found one with a "skunky" and one that smells straight like NL...that one is deff a NL pheno..darker green than all others and stout.
But similar smells to purple Malawi mostly but intensified aromas overall than the parents.
You can see I really deprived them of nutrients and root bound them , so its hard to really say how they should look....the AJ is just an invincible pheno
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Here we go , my favorite so far of the next round..
12/12 from seed,1 gallon bucket. 6 like this one...not gonna number them but will pick favorites as they emerge ,,,haven't kept track of days, I just go until its done....this is probably about a week old....took a small clone off AJ if its anything like caribe it will be rooted in just a few days.....my auto experiment in my little vedge box kinda didn't work, so gonna mom it with AJ pheno and use that plus keep poping seeds to keep finding winner cuts.
Awe isn't it cute
12/12 from seed,1 gallon bucket. 6 like this one...not gonna number them but will pick favorites as they emerge ,,,haven't kept track of days, I just go until its done....this is probably about a week old....took a small clone off AJ if its anything like caribe it will be rooted in just a few days.....my auto experiment in my little vedge box kinda didn't work, so gonna mom it with AJ pheno and use that plus keep poping seeds to keep finding winner cuts.
Awe isn't it cute
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Despite my constant abuse, AJ just keeps trucking along...has potential to make giant colas I think.
Also took clone of the NL pheno, I see potential in that one,..with its emerald green leaves, its purdy,,,,stretches horizontal not vertical
AJ pics
Also took clone of the NL pheno, I see potential in that one,..with its emerald green leaves, its purdy,,,,stretches horizontal not vertical
AJ pics
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Moved seedlings to the center stage so we could watch the fun,,,they'll be going gang busters now...not sure of days..2 weeks maybe , some are a few days apart...and the size of some sativa seeds is really small....the tiny seedlings thing is pretty weird compared to all the indica dominant
Middle left one has more of the "AJ" look...
The Jamaican has this stretchy finger thing ya know,,,like the middle leaf likes to really stretch out and elongate..I kinda dig it.good variety here
Middle left one has more of the "AJ" look...
The Jamaican has this stretchy finger thing ya know,,,like the middle leaf likes to really stretch out and elongate..I kinda dig it.good variety here
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Flowering heavily now
Also ,fixed my original light for this tent,,,I'll be putting that back into use....I'm not all that impressed by LEDs...this light is a 16 bulb T5 setup 864w packed in a 2x4 frame....gives me spectrum and the penetration power plus coverage in the small tent...
Really gives me great quality results.
Also ,fixed my original light for this tent,,,I'll be putting that back into use....I'm not all that impressed by LEDs...this light is a 16 bulb T5 setup 864w packed in a 2x4 frame....gives me spectrum and the penetration power plus coverage in the small tent...
Really gives me great quality results.
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I had these pics here with the old setup,,,, thought of sharing it because the first Caribe I grew is in it vegging in between a couple AfghanixOG autos finishing up..
Pics of the autos flowers from t5...great quality results with setup....
I might try bigger buckets and LSTing some Caribe x PMalawi. Seeds...12/12 from seed....LST can be fun.
Pics of the autos flowers from t5...great quality results with setup....
I might try bigger buckets and LSTing some Caribe x PMalawi. Seeds...12/12 from seed....LST can be fun.
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Packing on buds a plenty on all the phenos..."AJ" still stands out....all of them have copious amounts of resin and are totally awesome though...I probably won't bother cloning after all...
Fixing my lights freed up another T5 setup I was using led retrofit in....switched it back to flouros and gonna rock that in my mini tent with another auto run since my other one failed and I'm gonna ditch clones...
I believe the LEDs were giving me all kinds of weird everything... No sir , I didn't like it.
I'm gonna dispel any ideas T5's can't produce top quality...
Plants are much happier now under the T5
I had to cull 3 males from last round of seeds, only one from our test 6 (now 5)...these are about to flower now at 3 weeks, the taller ones are about to, the shorter ones are just about to stretch and catch up....planted 3 new.
Fixing my lights freed up another T5 setup I was using led retrofit in....switched it back to flouros and gonna rock that in my mini tent with another auto run since my other one failed and I'm gonna ditch clones...
I believe the LEDs were giving me all kinds of weird everything... No sir , I didn't like it.
I'm gonna dispel any ideas T5's can't produce top quality...
Plants are much happier now under the T5
I had to cull 3 males from last round of seeds, only one from our test 6 (now 5)...these are about to flower now at 3 weeks, the taller ones are about to, the shorter ones are just about to stretch and catch up....planted 3 new.
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Had to cull 2 more males, one from the control group...the 4 left are very uniform females, I've done some stem "pinching" to control stretch some...plants responded well..and are starting to flower nice.
Responding very ideally to 12/12 from seed
Gonna pop one fem ace Malawi I still have..should be neat side by side.
Getting foxtail action, probably start flush soon.
Very sativa smells,, like red grapefruit, fruity
Responding very ideally to 12/12 from seed
Gonna pop one fem ace Malawi I still have..should be neat side by side.
Getting foxtail action, probably start flush soon.
Very sativa smells,, like red grapefruit, fruity
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Did not get to finish what I was doing, but managed to harvest some quality smoke that could of gone a lot longer.
all the phenos are potent some more than others, very mental affect, not too racy but some can be noticeably ...devastating too light weight smokers no doubt,..takes about 15 minn to really kick in, but it also hits you instantly, very wavy clear powerful mental effect.
Some taste and smell better or worse does'nt really correlate with the effect,,,the effect is a doosy, a couple puffs here and there , you ain't smoking a whole joint ...taste is alright , some are pretty tasty, But old school sativa flavors,
But hey thought ya'll like to see I'm trying hydro 1st time for fun, got 3 water farms going with seedlings going, they dont look great but they are starting to look better as I figure this thing out...seems to be pretty smooth now....Not sure what I'm gonna do, LST if its 2 females and scrog if I only get 1 female. 3 males would be the pisser ... but anyway
all the phenos are potent some more than others, very mental affect, not too racy but some can be noticeably ...devastating too light weight smokers no doubt,..takes about 15 minn to really kick in, but it also hits you instantly, very wavy clear powerful mental effect.
Some taste and smell better or worse does'nt really correlate with the effect,,,the effect is a doosy, a couple puffs here and there , you ain't smoking a whole joint ...taste is alright , some are pretty tasty, But old school sativa flavors,
But hey thought ya'll like to see I'm trying hydro 1st time for fun, got 3 water farms going with seedlings going, they dont look great but they are starting to look better as I figure this thing out...seems to be pretty smooth now....Not sure what I'm gonna do, LST if its 2 females and scrog if I only get 1 female. 3 males would be the pisser ... but anyway
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Did'nt get to keep these going long , but I learned some valuable hydroponics knowledge,,,its actually a lot easier than I thought..
Update on cured buds: ohh man , some very very powerful mental effect herbs...Some phenos very dreamlike effect like Thai not to racy but with great creative mind,lots of energy,really powerful and long lasting ,very clear and clean, this is what i really wanted to get out of the cross....Some phenos very racy powerful confusing like oldschool trainwreck but even more exaggerated ....the strongest phenos are just a cannibinoid overload...just devastating...not refined at all just a cannibinoid beat down,take a nap after an hour of stumbling around then have some ice cream...
Some of the most powerful herbs I've ever experienced, certainly for the sativa effects
I'd like to explore more Jamaican hybrids.....I know there is that other Jamaican line used in the double jam,,,A super long flowering purple lambsbread with crazy mental effect...Imagine crossing that to the PH#23 or the purple zamal
I'm not happy with the minor interruptions in my hobbies and have decided to up and relocate to a more friendly climate in Colorado.
The Angry Jamaican shall return
Update on cured buds: ohh man , some very very powerful mental effect herbs...Some phenos very dreamlike effect like Thai not to racy but with great creative mind,lots of energy,really powerful and long lasting ,very clear and clean, this is what i really wanted to get out of the cross....Some phenos very racy powerful confusing like oldschool trainwreck but even more exaggerated ....the strongest phenos are just a cannibinoid overload...just devastating...not refined at all just a cannibinoid beat down,take a nap after an hour of stumbling around then have some ice cream...
Some of the most powerful herbs I've ever experienced, certainly for the sativa effects
I'd like to explore more Jamaican hybrids.....I know there is that other Jamaican line used in the double jam,,,A super long flowering purple lambsbread with crazy mental effect...Imagine crossing that to the PH#23 or the purple zamal
I'm not happy with the minor interruptions in my hobbies and have decided to up and relocate to a more friendly climate in Colorado.
The Angry Jamaican shall return
