Malawi Style Cob Curing.

[repuk]

That's the am I high? high where you don't realize how intoxicated you are until you try to do something that requires a bit of focus at which point you go holy hell I'm fucked up

It lasted 2-3 hours, but this time when I started moving, felt something new: like a just thorougly oiled/joint polished R2D2. Boy I felt "loose"! also not a single ache nowhere! You felt like if your entire body where under a wonderful and impossible "anesthesia" because your senses are really heightened, but only to feel good!.

I know that "stoned" confused state , I never reach that "peak" in the high while on cobs, be it smoked or chewed. It's always ultraclear headed.

Toking on a violeta fatty now… ouch… definitely I'm not as sober as I thought… violeta hits really smooth but today I'm feeling her...

You nailed it Seeded what I love about the proper herb is feeling "brand new", tastes, smells, sensations… are perceived though a perfecly "clean" glass… like they were on the first time.

I had several pizza, or tortilla making episodes that would rival Monty Python Fawlty Towers gags… but with the Zam, or specially Guawi (my most potent crop) buds.

Felt more complex than a rocket launch and there where so many "mmm.. what was I about to do?", screwing/confusion and laughing at myself moments... I love that.

I love cooking and doing so while on herb… is a bliss!! Pure Love Sharing! (and creativity unleashing)

Completely agree on the "mother earth connection" feeling! I guess in the end it was She who gave us endocannabinoid systems... it should be for a reason!

Instantly striked me as an analogy to that connection with nature the Avatar movie creatures had… I feel it be it with my dogs, cats, hens, or plants… and I notice they do, too.

Na'vis used the tails, we resort to sativa Godesses in form of cobs.

Thanks a lot for all the advice seeded! I'll try, no doubt. Enjoyed a lot your post!

 

[Tangwena]

That's the am I high? high where you don't realize how intoxicated you are until you try to do something that requires a bit of focus at which point you go holy hell I'm fucked up

If you find that you like that high don't swallow your herb. Chew it for like 30-45 mins and you'll get an amazingly clean high without the stone. It lacks the oomph but if you're not a regular smoker chewing a couple of grams and spitting it out makes for an incredible state of being. I kid you not you'll almost cry at how wonderful/beautiful the average experience is. Making a pack of Mi Goreng noodles for example will feel extremely complicated but while cooking them the sights and scents will have you frothing like a rabid dog and then once you sit down after your exhausting 4 minutes of stirring the pot and taste the noodles the spicy burn will make you feel alive and filled with warmth like never before. Mac n Cheese is basically the same but brings a wholesome, this is home kind of feeling. Salad, but especially stuff you've grown yourself, makes you feel as though you're not only doing right by yourself and nature but you're connected to the earth in a primal way. Mind you that's just for taste. Once you experiment with the other senses it's like a whole new world is opened to you.

I don't know if you've ever done shrooms before but the unrelenting happiness to the point of maddening euphoria they can cause comes to mind. It's definitely not that intense but with the right herb it's about as close as you can get without losing your grip on reality. I've found the trick is to give up on the high and enjoy the experience. Just suck it all in like a vacuum cleaner and by the time you're done you'll realize that you were higher than you ever imagined without any disappointment from not being stoned. Learn to enjoy hindsight and you're gonna love spitting it out

Spoken like someone who knows brother. I think a lot of smokers just dont recognize the enhanced insight without the stoned feeling.
But for those seeking new highs and experiences you hit the nail on the head brother thats exactly what I get out of it.

 

[Sticky Sat]

Hello brothers !

Many thanks to all of you for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us !

Should've subbed the first time i dicovered this thread but i just didn't realized at the time what an incredibly rich topic cobing is and i'm amazed at how many interesting informations have already been added since i last visited...

Not being able to smoke anymore, i make cookies with the most uplifting sativas i have at hand.

I have yet to explore the cob world (can't wait to... ) but the kind of extra clear "am I high ?" high (with all the manifestations you're describing) seems very similar to the one i get when eating what i call the "perfect dose" of cookie...

Cheers !

 

[Tangwena]

Hello brothers !

Many thanks to all of you for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us !

Should've subbed the first time i dicovered this thread but i just didn't realized at the time what an incredibly rich topic cobing is and i'm amazed at how many interesting informations have already been added since i last visited...

Not being able to smoke anymore, i make cookies with the most uplifting sativas i have at hand.

I have yet to explore the cob world (can't wait to... ) but the kind of extra clear "am I high ?" high (with all the manifestations you're describing) seems very similar to the one i get when eating what i call the "perfect dose" of cookie...

Cheers !

Hi Sticky yep thats the high but more and clearer than I ever had on any cookie or other edible.
I put it down to it being the whole plant and not an extract.
Also the plant type is as important as the cure. I find every plant and every cob are unique in their effects when fermented and chewed as in a cob cure.
Give it a try and compare the effects it would be very interesting to hear your thoughts.


I find the highs from chewed cob are so unique to each strain.
I have never had any drug even close to the feeling of bliss and contentment with a powerful zest for life that I get from a GOOD sativa that has been fermented and then aged.


Now my lungs are shot from smoking I am just so happy to have this method of tripping out on pot.

It could be a lot of things but I feel so happy and blissed out on the right pot cured this way I want nothing else.


Nothing else interests me except growing better plants and making better cobs i have found everything I ever wanted in life.


As you may suspect I am still high 6 hours later after chewing some spectacular Panama x Honduras cob its the best I have had and I cant live without it.
I have more growing for a new year harvest and with what I have learned from my last grow of this strain, the next cobs are going to be spectacular. Its scary how euphoric this strain is just bliss brother.

 

[707OGBUSH970]

Epic thread on cob curing. I havent done it for years, because I like the traditional method, but it does produce a unique product with a unique high, I just dont like how it mellows the taste put so much.

 

[Tangwena]

Epic thread on cob curing. I havent done it for years, because I like the traditional method, but it does produce a unique product with a unique high, I just dont like how it mellows the taste put so much.

To each his own my friend to get the cure right is not easy but once you do its another world.
Its just what you have been brought up on more power to you my friend.

 

[Sticky Sat]

Hi Tangwena !

My cookies are more exactly a kind of candied finely ground bud powder bars. I use the whole roughly trimmed plant material as i also remarked that anything less truly is...

I add butter, sugar, chocolate and spices but the taste isn't so great cause there's about 2 g of bud powder in a medium finger size bar...

I eat about 1 to 1.5 g/day in 2 or 3 takes, depending on the harshness of reality at the moment... ;-)

I just take a regular chocolate square size piece (about 1 cubic cm) that i keep as long as possible in my mouth to optimize the sublingual absorption before rinsing it all with coffee.

Although i'm sure the cobing brings another dimension to the experience, your description of the high you get from the cob chewing is exactly how i'd describe the high i get from the cookies.
Like word for word brother...

Nothing else interests me except growing better plants and making better cobs i have found everything I ever wanted in life.

Just replace "cobs" by "cookies" and my wife would swear it's me talking !

I'm editing the post after re-reading several pages of this great thread...

I'm not sure the super high rh we have all year long here would help with cobing...
After harvest, it takes at least 3 days for the leaves to start losing their rigidity and, after 10 to 15 days, I still have to do a 20 mn low temp decarb/drying in the oven to be able to properly grind the buds...

I always urge my visiting friends to light the pipe asap as any bud taken from a jar has to be smoked in the following 5 mn or it becomes a kind of soggy sponge...

It wasn't always like that though... It started to change about 10 years ago but the last 5 have been the worse ever. It's not only the rain but also the lack of heat and lumens as there's months when we don't even have one sunny day....

I never run out of reasons to be high all the time but this deterioration of the weather is definitely eating my brain when i'm not...

Cheers !

 

[HaHaHashish]

I'm not sure the super high rh we have all year long here would help with cobing...


It doesn't matter if it's hot. cold, wet or dry where you are, you can still cob because the outside humidity levels have nothing to do with what is happening inside the vac sealed cob. All you have to do is control the humidity level of the buds before wrapping, rolling and tying the cobs and the temperature of the cobs during the "sweating" and "curing" stages.

After harvest, it takes at least 3 days for the leaves to start losing their rigidity and, after 10 to 15 days, I still have to do a 20 mn low temp decarb/drying in the oven to be able to properly grind the buds...

I know that feeling....during bad (= wet, humid, rainy) months and sometimes years around here sometimes branches hung to dry will take months before they are considered "dry" enough to grind up and roll a joint with, so it might be a good idea to consider doing what I do and use a dehumidifier in a small room and monitor it so you control the drying during the wet months, this works just fine. The trouble is that dehumidifiers can and will rapidly over dry your buds if you let that happen. I dry in shallow cardboard boxes on raised metal screens, if the bud might become too dry, too fast, I close the lid of the box (or take them outside in the higher RH areas of the house)..ideally you will have buds (half) dried this way that can be cobbed in 4 or 5 days, maybe less if they are airier and less dense*

*or 2 or 8 or whenever days from harvest it takes to be dry enough

in regards to drying bud for joints or pipes - never use an oven or dehydrator as half or more or all the potency will be lost....you will get a stronger hit off a bud that was dried in a room that is 50% humidity for only 3 days then, with lots of flame, the half dry bud can be hit in a pipe, it will be hot and harsh, but you will catch a buzz I've tried a dozen different methods of fast drying and any method that uses heat really lowers the high (due to terpenes that are changed or lost) and all these methods using heat for fast drying are inferior. This is not the right thread for further comments on drying bud for smoking not cobbing, but with the right monitoring and timing,fast drying methods using microwaves or dry ice in a freezer can work but all methods of fast drying will give a vastly inferior result compared to time and patience.

 

[Sticky Sat]

Thanks a lot for all these explanations Hahahashish !
I only decarb/dry prior to grinding already "dried" buds for making cookies but there's no doubt the heat is affecting terpenes in a less friendly way than cobing does...

 

[repuk]

Sticky, as been said, humidity with a vacuum sealer won't be a problem, and a very useful tool in your climate!

also when cobbing high humidity is no problem at all, you can cob with the plant almost still "live", in words of Tangwena. Vacuum and fermentation will do the magic of being able to control it by unsealing / wiping off excess moisture.

Once curing time comes/finishes, I'm sure you'll find a way to finally dry them slowly to a 65% even in your climate. This is a really important process I've recentely found in my short experience, it affects potency and effect.

Re: your cookies, care to share the full recipe? subbing grinded bud by grinded cob will be all needed... and an alternative way for those who find chewing disgusting for example.

 

[Sticky Sat]

Here's the recipe brother !

2 cups finely ground bud powder
3 cups oil and/or butter
4 cups sugar
2 eggs
3,5 cup flour
3 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp ground cloves
1 tsp 4 spices
4 tbsp cocoa kohler and/or Nutella.

Mix butter/oil with the powder
Add everything else and finish with the flour.
Cook at the lowest temp and cut bars while it's still hot or it will become hard.

I found out the high is enhanced when you store the cookies (in a plastic box) in the freezer at the lowest temp for at least 15 days. Can't explain why but there's a difference if you store at - 4°C or at - 18°C... The colder the better...

Can't really call them cookies though, as the taste of weed is still very strong...
There'd be many ways to make them tastier by adding other ingredients but i'm trying to optimize the strenght/volume ratio. Easier to keep a small piece in the mouth for the sublingual absorption...

 

[Digger102]

Do you like the strong herb taste? You might be able to cut that by infusing the oil with the herb before you make the cookies. Two cups of ground up herb has to be like eating grass clippings. I made some decent oil by making water hash with the trim and shit first. Dried out the material, then put that in some coconut oil and infused the oil. Strained it, then divided the infused oil into three parts and added hash to two of them. So 1 cup of oil was what I called my base, took another cup of the infused oil and added 4 grams of hash and in the last cup of oil added 8 grams of hash. A teaspoon of the base in your coffee or whatever in the morning would start my day off right. Not messed up at all, but NICE! Everything after was a little stronger. Once I took two "00" caps of the +8 and one "00" of the +4 and it was too much for about an hour then it mellowed out.

 

[Tangwena]

Nice recipe Sticky I am sure it works very nicely.

I must be strange but I actually enjoy the taste of fermented weed (cob) much like chewing tobacco is enjoyed except I swallow the chewed wad after all the juice is extracted.
A well fermented cob tastes totally different from green bud give it a go you may be surprised.

 

[SweetSue]

Ha! You reminded me I had some little canna berries to chew. Lol! Agreed, the fresh bud tastes different, but sometimes that's what the body asks for.

I chew my cobs until there's nothing left in my mouth but a small piece of stem. Sometimes that takes over two hours. Lol!

Salty, if you infuse the oil, either strained or not, and add some liquid sunflower lecithin (I use 1 tablespoon for every cup of infused oil) you'll get a cookie that hits harder, faster, and lasts longer. The liquid sunflower lecithin has my brownies hit within 15 minutes of ingesting, and on a good day that marvelous 11-hydroxy buzz lasts a good 5-6 hours for me.


It works for you though, so this is just a suggestion.

Tangwena, my friend, I had to stop and share that tomorrow I'll be cobbing up a major part of my Zamaldelica X Panama, and may do some fermented buds too.

Tickles me pink to have met you. You've made a dramatic difference in my own virtual community. I'm pretty involved with the move to New Orleans, so I may not get pictures over here until after the move, but I'll be certain to swing by and post some.

Guys.....beautiful work.

 

[SweetSue]

Nice recipe Sticky I am sure it works very nicely.

I must be strange but I actually enjoy the taste of fermented weed (cob) much like chewing tobacco is enjoyed except I swallow the chewed wad after all the juice is extracted.
A well fermented cob tastes totally different from green bud give it a go you may be surprised.


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I've never asked, but how exactly do you get that so flat? What I'm really asking is, how thick do you start with?

 

[Digger102]

Sweet Sue made an excellent point, I forgot to say I added the sunflower lecithin, be sure not to get soy lecithin. If I remember the recipe, I ended up adding a tablespoon of lecithin in the cup of oil and hash.

 

[Sticky Sat]

Nice recipe Sticky I am sure it works very nicely.

I must be strange but I actually enjoy the taste of fermented weed (cob) much like chewing tobacco is enjoyed except I swallow the chewed wad after all the juice is extracted.
A well fermented cob tastes totally different from green bud give it a go you may be surprised.


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Hello my friend, although i've never done it, be sure it doesn't seem strange to me that you enjoy the taste, smell/scent, touch, sight of such unique pieces of art ! The opposite would indeed be surprising...
I'm mesmerized by these beautiful cobs and the promesses they hold... I'll definitely give it a try but it may take a while... I'm off-grid on a small island and one thing i'm sure of is that there's no vacuum sealer here !
Even if there was, i doubt my dying battery bank still has the required amps to operate it... No worries though, i'll keep reading and there's always a way...

Many thanks again to all of you for opening this world to me !

 

[Sticky Sat]

Do you like the strong herb taste? You might be able to cut that by infusing the oil with the herb before you make the cookies. Two cups of ground up herb has to be like eating grass clippings. I made some decent oil by making water hash with the trim and shit first. Dried out the material, then put that in some coconut oil and infused the oil. Strained it, then divided the infused oil into three parts and added hash to two of them. So 1 cup of oil was what I called my base, took another cup of the infused oil and added 4 grams of hash and in the last cup of oil added 8 grams of hash. A teaspoon of the base in your coffee or whatever in the morning would start my day off right. Not messed up at all, but NICE! Everything after was a little stronger. Once I took two "00" caps of the +8 and one "00" of the +4 and it was too much for about an hour then it mellowed out.

Thank you for this recipe Digger ! For decades i used to extract thc but found out about 10 years ago that, although not very pleasant in the mouth, keeping the whole bud material gives a longer and different type of high that i crave for....
I'm not sure grass clippings wouldn't have a better taste though...

 

[Tangwena]

Ha! You reminded me I had some little canna berries to chew. Lol! Agreed, the fresh bud tastes different, but sometimes that's what the body asks for.

I chew my cobs until there's nothing left in my mouth but a small piece of stem. Sometimes that takes over two hours. Lol!

Salty, if you infuse the oil, either strained or not, and add some liquid sunflower lecithin (I use 1 tablespoon for every cup of infused oil) you'll get a cookie that hits harder, faster, and lasts longer. The liquid sunflower lecithin has my brownies hit within 15 minutes of ingesting, and on a good day that marvelous 11-hydroxy buzz lasts a good 5-6 hours for me.


It works for you though, so this is just a suggestion.

Tangwena, my friend, I had to stop and share that tomorrow I'll be cobbing up a major part of my Zamaldelica X Panama, and may do some fermented buds too.

Tickles me pink to have met you. You've made a dramatic difference in my own virtual community. I'm pretty involved with the move to New Orleans, so I may not get pictures over here until after the move, but I'll be certain to swing by and post some.

Guys.....beautiful work.

I'll be sure to look in at your place to see that come of age my friend.
The flat bud was just a cola that i vac sealed like canary bud and the vacuum flattened it like that. It was some of the best stuff I have ever made.
I am growing some more right now Panama x honduras. I am after more of that rush.
I am also growing the 3rd Golden tiger variant as well. Its going to be very exciting come the New Year,all going well I will have some juicy pics to tempt you with in return for the amazing stuff you have been making lately. Hats off to you my sister cobber.

 

[Tangwena]

Hello my friend, although i've never done it, be sure it doesn't seem strange to me that you enjoy the taste, smell/scent, touch, sight of such unique pieces of art ! The opposite would indeed be surprising...
I'm mesmerized by these beautiful cobs and the promesses they hold... I'll definitely give it a try but it may take a while... I'm off-grid on a small island and one thing i'm sure of is that there's no vacuum sealer here !
Even if there was, i doubt my dying battery bank still has the required amps to operate it... No worries though, i'll keep reading and there's always a way...

Many thanks again to all of you for opening this world to me !

Wow that is off the grid half your luck.
You can get pneumatic hand pump type vacuum pumps for camping if you can get post delivered.
The Malawians do not need vacuum pumps so it can be done without one if you have a lot of bud to experiment with.
Although your humidity might be an issue, they make theirs over winter which is very dry in Malawi.
Best wishes anyway and may the sun shine on your patch of paradise my friend.