MAKING MARIJUANA GREAT AGAIN

[farmerlion]

Welcome all levels of growers here at icmag.

For the last six years I have been developing and refining what I can tell you is the most cutting edge knowledge based, responsible fully organic, phenotypic expressive type of cannabis growing created. That is a big claim and I hope you will join me as I back it up.

I had started sharing some of the information in the Forum Aims thread. Many of those posts will be getting moved here in the coming days. Millions of people have grown pot. Thousands of people are pretty good growers for the knowledge, experience and equipment they have. Hundreds of people in the world are outstanding in their preferred methods of growing cannabis.

I will show and explain in the most detailed ways, answering questions WHY?
*FUNGAL REPOSITORIES * is the most productive, reliable, efficient, cost effective organic style of growing. Let's not leave out pest deterring indoor, outdoor, greenhouse method.

After experiencing the pitfalls of multiple growing styles and utterly detesting the synthetic fertilizers and shortcuts used by commercial dispensaries and grow operations. I was determined there had to be a better way to grow the highest quality and for greedy people QUANTITY of cannabis per cycle.

Like anything done exceptiexceptionally well, the foundation has to be prepared properly. There aren't any shortcuts that will benefit the cannabis growers or consumers. My greenhouse is untouched since harvest of last season. We will be starting with cleaning the growing area, then soil preparation. After the greenhouse is cleaned. We will start treating the soil as if it already has been planted with seedlings or clones.

Before we germinate any genetics decide what your goals are for this upcoming season.
1. What types of genetics are you looking to grow?

2. Are you using timers, tents, shade clothes or natural light cycle?

3. Are you making a hybrid or reproducing genetics? What are you going to do with a male or a hermaphrodite plant? How does this effect your goal?

4. How reliable are your water sources and quality? (Rain, Lake, Well or Tap) water. Chlorine in your tap water will kill your microbial life.

5. PRIDE- Will separate you from the best life(plural) has to offer. Be it techniques, relationships, jobs and life. Attention to detail and quality of efforts is different than a prideful person that only hears him/herself.

Anyone who thinks that they know everything is already done learning and can't be taught.
Everything I'm sharing here has been tested and studied by doctors with decades of experience and research knowledge. Other areas like topping, I have done side by side studies on here at icmag and posted my results. I'm not going to argue or defend every aspect of information against stoner science and opinions of my friends dad's buddies brother's neighbor thinks this?!?

6. Don't finish using a product because it's already paid for or you have a bunch of it leftover. ANALOGY (The most expensive drink you will ever have, is the one you don't walk away from). DUI

7. I'm not God. I don't walk on water. I can however see the water from where I'm walking. My goal isn't for self recognition publicly. I want the world community of cannabis growers to have the latest, most researched information available. So the cannabis you grow is the absolute finest cannabis that can possibly be grown in your environment.

Thank you for your time. I pray you all have the best grows you have had yet. I'm hoping the warming weather will help my lungs. I have missed a few months of work due to covid complications. Which will help prove what I'm sharing here about an efficient repeatable, renewable solution. Because my ass is getting closer to the poor house on a weekly basis.
Peace farmerlion

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

on this one!!

 

[DARKSIDER]

Always looking to learn.

 

[ArtOfSelection]

ohhh my interest is peaked

 

[farmerlion]

. Hello my friends, as you can see I'm starting out with a wreck from last seasons grow. The old growth is tomato plants, I only got one hour of cleaning in. The winds are 35mph gusting to 50 to 55 mph. When I fill my black mixing tub with debris it blows out when I try to go outside.

I will wait and see if the wind dies down a little bit. The goal is to get everything swept and cleaned with vinegar. You can spray the inside of the plastic down and it doesn't leave a soapy fim that diffuses the light any more than it naturally does on it's own. I will pull all the root balls from last season leaving the finer roots to finish decomposing. They also do a nice job of keeping the soil aerated.

It's also a good idea to check your soils compaction in each bag at this time. I have a 3/4" aluminum rod that I use for my fungal repositories. I shove it from top to bottom in each bag in about three different places. I will be adding powdered Leonardite to each bag, this greatly increases the Humic and Fulvic Acids in the soil. It a.so adds to the soils density over a few seasons.

If I can't push the rod to the bottom of the bag without great effort. I dump the bag into the mixing tub and add some more soil, either a new bag or composted depending on the amount needed and available in my compost pile. The downside is even though the soil is very dry, you still have your colonies of microbes in tact. Once you disturb them they have to reform and spread out through the soil again.

This takes time and is another reason I start early preparing my soils. The lake is still frozen over, but I have about 25 gallons of water from last season that Ieave in the greenhouse for this purpose. I can give all the bags a good watering and start waking things up. Then when the ice has receded from the shoreline a few feet I can wade in and start filling water jugs again. This will test your resolve every season. Even once the ice is gone having a big wave of ice cold water hit you, brings words to your vocabulary that you haven't used since the previous years.

I will get the cleaning and preperation work started and do another post hopefully tomorrow. Have a wonderful day my friends, thanks for joining me here.
peace farmerlion

 

[MallardDuck]

Hey Mr Lion. Hope your well. Ill be here for this one for sure! I have been following your stuff on fungal repositories for a bit now. Excited to see it in action

 

[CannaRed]

 

[farmerlion]

Old Pink,
I can't thank you enough for this thread/forum. I have been studying microbial and fungal behaviors for years now. For the last six years I have been testing and refining them for cannabis mainly in my greenhouse and one season indoors.
. Everything I will be presenting comes from individuals with doctorates in botany and decades of research that I have carefully studied and taken notes on. I was looking for a place to share this information and back it up with a full season consisting of ( cleaning/preperation, why what I'm teaching you is not only the most advanced organics environmental system. It's also the most efficient, renewing, cost effective and quality/quantity producing available, period.
I will cover truths about soil amendments, teas, herbicides, pesticides, flushing topping and super cropping.)

I have my work of the most important reproduction of genetics and the making of a hybrid cross that I have done to date. I will document the donor selections made and why. For the reproductions over the next two seasons, they will be open pollinations. Since the genetics being crossed are the same being reproduced. A parental reversal over the next two seasons will take place at the same time.

The genetics themselves are very refined and stable,, one being an IBL over several generations.. i will cover water source,, watering,, water retention and transpiration. Fungus,, bacteria, microbial colonies, worms and exudates. How they all work together and what things stunt/retard their growth and activity. I will cover the do's and dont's of defoliation, when and why.

Flowering onset times, geographical region acclimating and flowering finish times.. Finally harvest,, drying/curing, tinctures, butter, hash making and THC/CBD ratios percentages in edibles and how they're computed. This should cover most of your growing cannabis needs. There's many more intricate details that I will cover, but I don't need to list them now.

I have some donations to drop off tomorrow. As some of you may know, I do a full three month cure on all cannabis that I grow before it gets donated. Through mine and others research , I know that I am making the highest quality cannabis humanly possible with the knowledge available to me that has been tested.

I hope all of you will trust what I'm sharing with you. I'm here to teach you simple truths, not defend decades of research to stoner science and myths. Several topics I have done side by side grows on and shared here on icmag in other forums. Parental donors, reversals of parental donors and topping/cropping.

I will start compiling information tomorrow and try to have it in a chronological format for the sequence of soils, germination through harvest.
peace farmerlion
MedDakotabis

Farmerlion

 

[farmerlion]

Fungal Repositories

Hello all,
I'm going to start by giving credit to the Doctors and the books, videos and decades of scientific research completed by these amazing people. Their passion was not and is not cannabis. Soil microbial life doesn't know to what plant the roots belong to. They develop a symbiotic relationship with each individual root system.
Each plant communicates with the soils microbial colonies, be it fungus or bacteria.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT THESE TWO SIMPLE TRUTHS BEFORE YOU READ ANY FURTHER.

1. Your root system and the microbial colonies in your soil know more about your plants needs than you or I ever will.


2. The cannabis seed you plant into the soil knows more about how to grow cannabis than you or I ever will.

Read 1 & 2 again and let that sink in. This simple acceptance is absolutely crucial to everything else I'm about to share with you.

Dr. Maynard Murray, 40+ years research, Fertility from the Ocean Deep
Dr. Elaine Ingham, 40+ years research, Soil Food Web School
Dr. Allison Justice 20+ years research
Dr. Faust at Bioag 30+ years research
Dr. James White 30+ years Rutgers University

Farmerlion 15 years growing, 10 years self studying Micro Biology and it's relationship with cannabis in particular. 6 years of acclimating equatorial genetics to my geographical region. I have studied about 60 strains/hybrids and taken notes on flowering onset times using natural light cycle for my geographical region in my greenhouse.

My mission and goals.
My goal in life is not to be employed. I was born to be deployed.
Deployment = the use and service of your natural gifts to the world.
Add value to people
Be unique, new techniques, be different

If you have a difference in opinion or experience with a certain technique. Please consider your individual growing environmental conditions and triggers. I will cover (topping/lollipopping) there is certainly a case to be made under certain circumstances for each. My preference and opinion is this, and I stand by it full heartedly.
(Nobody ever goes back to the doctor for a second circumcision. It won't make your penis bigger).

Peace farmerlion

Peace

 

[farmerlion]

Hello my ICMAG family,
I hope you will take the time as you have it to watch all five of the Dr.Elaine Ingham videos on YouTube. She has about 15 other videos from her soil food web seminars also shared there.

I'm going to start with notes from Dr. Allison Justice. Since I ended my last post with a somewhat controversial technique. I will start with Allison's research regarding this topic.
(Defoliating)- thinning leaves, topping, lollipopping.

Lollipopping is almost a 100% an indoor growers technique .

Topping is used indoors and in a greenhouse. There is circumstances of security where topping is used outdoors for concealment in yards below fencing. I won't cover those individual needs as fence heights and soil conditions have a great effect on the age/maturity of the plant at different height stages.
Please note that Defoliation during pre flowering and the first weeks of flowering onset causes hormonal imbalances and growth stunting .

Defoliation increases the salinity of the plant in PPM parts per million. Not the soil or grow medium PPM (DWC, Hydroponics included).

Plants do not produce more foliage than they need for a given light source including ventilation and humidity controls.
(Trimming a bunch of leaf bracts off your plants, because you think you're getting more light to bud sites and gaining overall flower production).
Wasn't proven in any studies to being effective or factual.

When defoliating (lollipopping, topping) reduce the overall feeding PPM for best plant growth. At week four of vegetative growth (lollipopping, topping) didn't show any loss to yields on initial studies. There was positive results but a loss in humidity control.
​​​​​​ Along these lines of indoor DWC, Hydroponics NPK needs.
Nitrogen- 50 to 200 PPM MAX 150 is ideal PPM.
Pottasium- 5 to 80 PPM 0 to 5 PPM is low, 15 PPM each watering is ideal.
Phosphorus- 85% being washed out, leeching. 100 PPM MAX
Manufacturers recommended application totals is three times higher on average than needed causing lockup.

Cal/Mag - Epsom Salts , one or the other is needed most often but not both.
(Tomatoes and Poinsettias) have very similar needs to cannabis.

LIGHTING and return on investment (ROI)
LED return on investment was much higher than MH or HPS, Mercury Vapor.
For best LED lighting results, humidity controls and room temperatures need to be increased.
PPFD 800 watt LED lighting was the most efficient per plant space of all her tests and final plant weights.

FLUSHING - (BUCKLE UP SWEETHEART) This is the single biggest lie perpetrated by agricultural commercial industries and hormone growth inhibitors sold into the cannabis industry.
You can't flush NUTRIENTS or CHEMICALS out of plant tissue (PERIOD).

Read that statement again. It's crucial to the quality and cost efficiency of all your future grows.
FLUSHING- 1 and 2 week flushes.
*You can cause nutrient deficiencies in your plants.
*You are flushing synthetic chemicals/fertilizers from the soil/grow medium that didn't need to be there in the first place.

This circumstance is the foundation of all my research on behalf of MMJ. Medical and recreational cannabis users have the right to the highest quality cannabis available.
I'm here to show for profit growers private and commercial, they're wasting money purchasing these products. For hydroponics growers, the world record tomatoes and pumpkins have one product in common. I will disclose that products name when I cover the incredible lifes work of Dr. Maynard Murray.

CURING CANNABIS- I will cover this topic now as it is pertinent to many growers around the world in a perpetual cyclical timing.

Curing Facts
1. For corporate dispensary growers, you only need wait the first time for a quality cure of three months. Every cycle after that falls into the same release date cycling as rushes or uncured cannabis. The easiest way to beat your competition is to be better than your competitors. I've already showed you that not using synthetic chemicals/fertilizers saves you money, giving you a competitive edge.

2. A longer cure cannot offset or compensate for poor growing practices.

3. Rushed heating, drying methods of the buds/flowers. Eliminates the vast majority of phenotypic expressions. (Wine)

4. Cannabinoids in the trichome heads need the natural degradation process to form the highest concentrations of individual Cannabinoids. Be it CBD, THC, CBG etc. When the drying process is rushed or skipped. The flowers don't produce these essential chemical changes. I will use wine again as an apology.

Dom Perignon and Boones Farm are from grapes that take the exact same amount of time to grow. So what is the difference other than one bottle is $3 and the other bottle sells for over a$1,000?

GROWING PRACTICES, CURING PRACTICES

Curing, dry prevents spoilage only.
Curing conditions and moisture levels. 40% to 60% humidity.
.8% moisture stops botritus, .6% moisture is consumer preference for best cured buds.

No burp, 20 minute burp and (one hour burp is the industry standard).
There was no actual release of moisture by burping containers was the most important finding.
Rotronic HP23-AW-A Water activity meter was used for the burping testing. It's a $1430.00 base model piece of equipment.
Other notes of significance was the amount of CO2 in the samples fluctuated with employees being in the curing room.
The 5 gallon plastic buckets being used for curing proved not to be air tight. Meters inside the sealed buckets fluctuated as well. Moisture content in large and small buds equalized and homogenized.

Conclusion, water activity levels are crucial for properly curing buds. 40% to 60% room/container humidity is ideal.

This concludes the specific information relating to cannabis that Dr. Allison Justice shared. I will post more notes and studies in the morning. I hope you have found this information useful.
peace farmerlion

Peace

 

[farmerlion]

Hello my friends, today is a special day. I'm going to share a 6 year refinement of gathered knowledge, biological research and principle, compiled into the most cutting edge productive, cost effective, high quality technique in the entire cannabis industry.

Okay farmerlion that's a big claim,, now back it up! And I will!

Due to the amount of pictures and information needed for reference. And backing my claims up this may be in a few posts to properly convey the information.
* FUNGAL REPOSITORIES EXPLAINED *
I will post pictures first, the steps taken second and the principles and knowledge behind each step. The symmetry and how they work together.
Why teas are inconsistent and don't work the way we expect them to each time. The corrections I discovered and have implemented and refined for several years now.
Teas and amendments like them have been being used improperly, because we didn't fully understand what was taking place (Biologically)and how they really worked.
Starting off with a fresh grow bag of soil. I use 35 and 45 gallon grow bags. I single plant the 35's and double plant the 45's. Miracle grow type soils that have inoculations pre added, take much longer for your microbial colonies to get going.. These synthetic fertilizers often sterilize the soil. Much like big ag using anhydrous ammonia. It delivered great results, but made the farmers dependant upon it . The natural abilities of your soils microbial life to defend against bad bacteria, weeds and pests was gone. The extra crop produced was now being spent on pesticides, herbicides and more stimulants to boost productivity to offset rising costs.

All that just came in your bag of soil that made a promise of (BIGGER, BETTER, FASTER). But it's on sale and only costs a couple of dollars more than the regular soils. Hmmm?
A keg cup sized hole with a secondary thumb sized hole going almost to the bottom of the bag is your Fungal Repository. The reason for the keg cup hole is because your germinating seed is sensitive to it's environment. When it's to cold to be growing, I'm preparing my soils microbial colonies. This can be to rich of an environment for a new seedling or fresh clone. I later fill the whole with a biodegradable manure cup with the bottom cut out.

Most root systems grow faster than the cups degrade. By the time the roots grow out the sides of the manure cup and down into the first repository. They are well established in their new environment and ready to flourish.
. I have a dedicated blender just for puree ingredients. I watch for discounted fruits and vegetables at the grocery stores. Watermelon, flats of strawberries, blueberries, peaches and bananas are the plants favorites. Bananas and potatoes are the best for a little potassium boost going into flowering.

Since one plant has already converted these starches and sugars. They are already available for plant/root uptake. The benefits are immediate and you can see the difference by the following morning. . You can see the three separate fungal repository holes in the grow bag. There is also a repository beneath the seedling mix filling in each keg cup sized hole. I didn't use manure cups with this bag as I was germinating directly into the bag. I'm not a believer in transplanting/up potting as a growing technique AT ALL ! There's nothing good that comes out of risking your plants root health intentionally. I have started seedlings indoors in manure cups with the bottom cut out. Then later set the cups in the pre existing holes in my grow bags, this works fine.
I use rain and lake water that I collect for the entire life of the microbial colonies. If you are using city water let your water sit at least overnight so the chlorine can have a chance to evaporate.

One last thought for this post. If you are growing in a tent. Find a container like a calf sled or an ice fishing sled to use. I have also built my own containers matching my light footprint. Let your roots have the maximum amount of space to grow. Before you plant your seeds or clones, lift your tent. Have ratcheting system in place, that works.

Ropes and pulleys from ceiling hooks work nice as well. My four 600 watt HPS lights in my indoor room, I used this system very efficiently. I will close this post and get into the nuts and bolts of how and why this system works so well. Additionally explaining inconsistencies and misunderstandings of Tea's used as inoculants. The proper and most effective way to use them.
Peace farmerlion

Peace

 

[farmerlion]

Fungal Repositories and Microbial Biostimulants Explained

Microbial Biostimulants Geography, are communal organisms. Ph significantly shifts microbes to shift environments.

Diversity narrows as you get closer to the North and South poles of the planet. The equator is the richest gathering of microbial species. This pertains to bacteria as well.
*Minerals in the soil affect Ph*
*Roots will travel to the best soil food source and Ph*
*Microbes only grow at certain food sources for that type of microbe*

*TEA'S THE REAL LOW DOWN*
The longer a tea sets the microbes eat up their food source. Then another microbe becomes dominant and eats up the next food source. This continues through each different species of microbes eating different food sources until only inert material is left. After years of decay these microbes become Humic and Fulvic Acids.

Teas need consistent inputs to work in the root zone properly.

Don't change up you tea recipe throughout the season. The roots acclimate to a certain type of microbes for nutrient uptake.

If a Ph buffer(growth inhibitors) is introduced into the soil. The microbial life will move away from the acidic or alkaline buffer. This essentially stunts the growth of your plants. *Roots acclimate to certain microbes.*

Stabilize and stay consistent with amendments.

If you want to develop a different tea, do so from the beginning of the season in a separate bag. Don't try and change an existing colony with different teas or buffers.

CARBON ORGANIC MATTER IN YOUR SOILS, IS THE SINGLE BEST SUBSTRATE AMENDMENT.

The addition of organic matter before planting is crucial for microbial life when soil doesn't have a plant.
Microbes will die off after harvest as the roots are no longer feeding the microbial colonies.

*The Rhizosphere needs consistent microbial Ph balanced stimulants.
The Rhizosphere is your root zone. Healthy roots need quality water and food sources for microbes.

*99%of microbes are GOOD. The 1% that are bad are very bad!
(Microbes are a cultivar species).

*The sum of microbes are better than any single species of microbes on it's own.
Colonies of microbes empower each other.

CULATION (Q lation) means it bonds with buffering agents.
Clod Buster Humates
Humic Acids- black or brown, high molecular weight.
Humis- forms under dust layer of soil. Leaves, bark, twigs decomposed by fungi in undisturbed decomposition.

Humates- Biodynamic preparations to grow fungi.

Fulvic- Acid soluble fraction, low molecular weight, yellow in color.

*FUNGAL REPOSITORIES- The addition of organic matter is crucial to the development of fungal colonies. Pureed potatoes, bananas, strawberries, blueberries, water melons and pine needles of local trees and shrubbery are essential to acclimating plants to your geographical region.

Next post I will explain how this ties into the phenotypic expressions, your endocannabinoid system. Understanding Cannabinoid Pharmacology
Peace farmerlion

Peace

 

[farmerlion]

Hello my ICMAG family,

PhD. Linda Clumpers , Cannabinoid Pharmacology
Dr. James White, Professor of plant pathology Rutgers University

While some or most of this information seems technical and over the heads of most cannabis growers. It's important because two other doctor's have studied, researched and tested. Independently very similar to identical research concepts as Dr. Elaine Ingham and have verified each others findings.

This information I gathered through medical podcasts both the doctor's did, similar to Ted Talks. Not everything was relayed in complete thoughts, as the host would interject and change the subject from time to time. At the end I will summarize and give you a nutshell of information you can trust.

In reference to seed sales, storage and germination. There is some crucial information given. See if you can pick up on it before I summarize.

Curious about Cannabis Podcast#20 Phd Linda Clumpers
Cannabinoid Pharmacology, Cannabis for pain, www.canncannify.com is a research guide for reference (data gathering)

Endocannabinoids are antagonist compounds.
Cannabinoids respond to imbalances in the body. Endocannabinoids have a short life span of influence. (degrade, decompose).
Endocannabinoid deficiencies- while taking/consuming CBD helps, it's not the cure all answer.
A sum of the compounds gives a beneficial effect and takes away the side effect. Compounds influence each other. Some have positive, others have negative effects.
*Where does your CBD come from???
Linda stated in her findings 80%!!! 80%! of information is misleading or wrong.
(CANNABIS IS AGENDA DRIVEN)

5 mg by inhalation isn't the same effects on the body as 5 mg oral consumption.
Smoking, sublingual and oral are the three most common types of consumption. There is a growing number of consumers that are making their own suppositories for cannabis specifically. I have seen a thread here on the mag about it. If someone wants to link it here would be appreciated.

Menstrual cycle, cannabis consumption one week before the cycle starts, lessons the effects of the Menstrual cycle. Anorexia, obesity, neural pain and intestinal health are greatly affected by your endocannabinoid system.

TERPENES ontourage effect, as stated earlier in this post. They work better together better than any single terpene or cannabinoid does on its own.

CBD interactions with other drugs (pharmaceutical) CBD can diminish or amplify other drugs effects/actions.

SLEEP THC does influence but doesn't improve your sleep.
Sleep issues aren't necessarily sleep disorders.
CHRONIC PAIN limits sleep but isn't a disorder. There is direct and indirect effects of sleep disorders.
*THC does effect REM (dream state) sleep. THC inhibits REM sleep. Chronic pain sufferers will actually sleep and not be restless, but not in the REM sleep cycle.

CBN & THC combineds had much better sleep results.

The PLACEBO effect, is very high in teenagers and diminishes with age of the person being told of the specific effect. This is in reference to the thought that CBD is the cure all for everything and everyone.

Industry hype drives the PLACEBO effect of cannabis. Using a poor quality CBD or a product claiming to have CBD and doesn't. Gives a negative reaction to cannabis that is undeserved.

*Verify the quality of the CBD products you are buying* High price doesn't always mean high quality.

I'm going to do a partial summary here now. The balance of the information that forms the symbiotic relationship between between your endocannabinoid system and the Cannabinoids produced by the cannabis sativa plant.

(This is farmerlion speaking now and not the doctors. They don't grasp fully this concept, but are getting there quickly)

MIRRORS Rhizophagy, plant nutrient extraction from symbiotic microbes.
. This is why MMJ medical cannabis and recreational cannabis need to be treated differently and grown using this system of Fungal Repositories in natural sourced water, food and sunlight.
I am all for, all cannabis being grown better, but I'm not corporate America that only cares about making a dollar. While hyping indoor grown, nuked recreational cannabis that is harvested early, quickly dried to be sold to uninformed people.
There is a growing number of cannabis consumers that are demanding higher quality and ethically grown cannabis.
For those of you that are growing or are new to growing, please grow ethically and responsibly.

Peace farmerlion

Peace

 

[farmerlion]

Rhizophagy, Microbial Endophytes, Endocannabinoid system and Cannabinoids

. These four entities (forms of life or life enhancing) means. Have a Symbiotic relationship being plant, animal/human, fungal and bacterial.
So closely related in their function and (PURPOSE) not plural. I have no doubt that God designed them specifically for you and I to benefit from, through and to/too.

Symbiotic relationships

*SYMBIOSIS, is a close ecological relationship between the individuals of two (or more) different species.

*Commensalism, one species benefits, the other is unaffected.

*Mutualism, both species benefit.

*Competition, neither species benefits.

*Parasitism, one species benefits, the other is harmed.

Although there are many ways organisms interact with one another, most symbiosises involve clever ways to obtain food or protection.

The human body, the cannabis plant and the soil food web encompasses this like the Trinity. The student is not greater than the master, but dependent upon each other to reach the highest level of function and expression.

This type of symbiosis is poorly understood and less well documented relative to Symbiotic relationships. These posts might be the first time this Symbiotic relationship has been explained in a factual manner.

*Rhizophagy
Rhizo- root
Phagy- eating
Plants eating microbes, cycling them back into the soil. The microbes are still living and gather more nutrients taken back up into the root system again.
Like sticking a finger in mom's brownie batter and sucking it back off.

*Microbes can alter cannabinoids percentages * (EPIPHANY) !!!

Let me explain this to you so you understand the magnitude of that research proven statement. Hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions have been spent on tuitions of botanists, medical doctors not to mention research equipment, laboratories and greenhouse field studies, time and labor. To confidently utter these five words.

Microbes can alter cannabinoids percentages!

I feel I should do another nutshell summary to really drive this point home, before I conclude this lesson. The ramifications are a blessing of staggering proportions.

For medical patients and growers, you can increase the (CBD, CBG, CBN, THC) and including the myriad of other cannabinoids in your cannabis. By increasing the microbial colonies and their health in your organic soil. I get so excited about this I can barely type. Looking out the window at deer playing in my yard in the snow. Summer seems so far off right now.

*Endophytes, are microbes that the roots pull inside the root cells and convert into energy. Overall growth, nutrient content and THC, CBD, CBG, CBN Etc content of cannabis plants are influenced by what endophytes are present in the plant.

Total Endophytes
Seed vectored Endophytes , don't clean your seeds. They have microbes on the outside that the seedling needs. Soil microbes are absorbed, microbial diversity in soil is important. Seed quality is in direct relation and proportion to overall soil health.
Lower germination rates are in direct relation to this aspect of seed, soil and plant health.

*Microbial Endophytes *

A. Improve plant stress tolerance.

B. Suppress plant pathogenic fungi.

C. Modulate root development

D. Improve nutrient absorption.

E. Alter chemical constituents of plants.
Constituents- an essential part, component, element. The organic Constituents of plants, animals and microorganisms. Harry S Mosher, Merriam Webster.

F. Gravitropic Response- roots grow downwards instead of sideways. This is essential for consistency in water availability for your plants and the microbial health of the Symbiotic relationships.

This is a continual cycle throughout flowering. The plant can adjust in what amounts of each nutrient it feels it needs..
*Plants exude a secretion of EXUDATES in a zone proximity to root tip meristems. This facilitates microbe entry into the plant meristem. The plant feeds the microbes drawing in different exudates to be cleaned of nutrients and re-released back into the soil.

Inside the root cell a superoxcide strips cell walls of the microbes. Nitrogen is contained inside bacterial cell walls.
*Cytoplasms* are
Gram"-" Bacteria- amino acids, glutamine acids, alanine, diaminopimelic acids.
*Super Oxide*
Gram"+" Bacteria- amino acids, alanine, glutamine, lysine, glycine.
Super oxide is abundantly produced around the microbes in the paraplasmic space. Just outside the root hair plasma membrane.

*Rhizophagy Cycle Microbes* Modulate the development of seeds.
1. Microbes trigger the Gravitropic Response in roots causing them to grow down through the soil..

2. Microbes trigger root hair elongation. (no microbes, no root hairs)

3. Microbes increase root branching.

4. Microbes increase root and shoot elongation and total growth.

*EXPANSION WAVE* mechanism for microbial expulsion from root hairs in Rhizophagy cycle. This expansion works in the same way that the male ejaculation does. The microbes are pushed out the root tip under pressure.

*CONSTANT CYCLOSIS* (ejaculation) enables efficient nutrient exchange between microbes and root cells by reducing gradient build-up (blue balls).

Native microbes on seeds should be preserved. No anti microbials on seeds and no removal of seed tissues.

Manage soils and seeds to build up microbial colonies/communities.

***BIOSTIMULANT MICROBES ***FUNGAL REPOSITORIES * IN SOIL TEAS***

Biostimulant microbes may be added; these are generally Endophytes that enter into the root cells. Participating in the Rhizophagy cycle, but the correct microbes need to be deployed for optimal results. In an earlier post I covered Microbial Dominance in TEA'S.
This cycle time can be as short as 12 hours, when the inputs are correct to a few days/week+ if the inputs are wrong. (Synthetics/Heavy salts).

Biochemical diversity through organic soil microbes is the future of SUPER TUNING healthier cannabis plants, with a wider cannabinoidal spectrum as an elevated base.

Dr. James White, Professor of Plant Pathology Rutgers University stated.

Seed microbes plus soil microbes should have the strongest beneficial inputs for plant life and productivity. Studies are ongoing, plants farm their own microbes, plants colonize exudates.
*soilfoodweb.com*

For my Fungal Repositories in my grow bags these are the things I use on a regular basis. Nothing in huge amounts, just so they are present. That my earthworms are eating, tunneling fresh air passages in my bags. The microbes my roots need to feed from and feed are available at all times of the season.

While during I will throw in an extra whole potato or banana for elevated potassium needs. I'm pretty sure the soil already has it figured out and is ahead of me.
* I do want to add that pests and disease don't bother healthy plants.* I have not purchased Lady Bugs or any othere predatory insects in the past two years. I have never purchased a herbicide or pesticide.

I will document my entire upcoming season starting this spring with cleaning and soil preparations.
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So, i recently had an opportunity to do a side by side smoke test. This was from the same clone, with one sample being done in the farmerlion method. The other sample was indoor grown, under led's, and the roots were in old/new potting mix that was watered with a light worm tea, throughout the grow. The difference was obvious, and only took the inhale part to know which was preferred, didn't even need to exhale to have formed an opinion. There were too many variables, (such as lighting, and cure) to be considered scientifically conclusive, in this short little test. But i'm pretty convinced, already.

We have been tossing our kitchen leftovers into our veggie gardens, for years. And we put the end of the year garden stalks and leaves back into the soil. Also, bird droppings from chickens and pigeons. Am wondering how to increase the amount of fungal repositories for large garden applications. The bushes that grow in this area that have berries, i suppose that we could juice the berries, but that stuff is valuable for food...perhaps when the apple trees are mature, the leftover apple stuff would be good, but that will probably take a few more years. The gardens are large, and i don't know that we have enough to put a dent in them, with our scraps. The garden soil was 'virgin' with lots of rock dust from the glacial dumps, so we are pretty lucky in that area. The soil is on the alkaline side, and is low in magnesium, high in sodium(or was that chloride, i forget). We are hoping that the bird droppings are helping, as that is probably our 'best' soil addition. Supposedly, pigeon droppings are one of the finest manures, bringing top dollars, back in the old days when actual dropping manures were used frequently.

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Hello friends, today we are going to discuss the genetics I will be growing out over the next couple of seasons.

Before I state any genetics one must have a goal you are trying to accomplish. Even if you chose not to make a decision you have made that decision not to make one. In the end that is your legacy, like it or not.

. *GOALS LONG AND SHORT TERM.*

1. With the two most important strains I have been gifted, I will do an open pollination reproduction of each strain.

2. Upon curing of the buds, one reproduction per season. I will gift back to the people that blessed me with these incredible genetics. When dealing with any genetic base don't take it for granted. If it's special or unique to you, it will be special and unique for someone else as well.

As the decades quickly pass us by our memories create legends in our youth that we tirelessly pursue spending thousands of dollars trying to find and recreate. Road Kill Skunk is the best example of this analogy. Unless 30+ year old seeds are found, it's gone!

3. I want to make a hybrid of the two Inbred lines and fully acclimate them to my growing environment. While making selections towards the strongest cannabinoidal expressions (POI).


The first strain I will be preserving through reproduction is (Mother of Pearl) WTF is that?
Mother of Pearl is a gem of gems. The male has a turbulent past that caused discord amoung friends. Bushweed later named it Hmong Hilltribe Thai , prior to that it was a Thai selection made in and around Phitsanulok Thailand by Kanga. He and Neville were working together at the time. This isn't the same Hmong Thai used by dubi and Charlie.
It was shared and passed to a few different people. If you search Hmong Hilltribe Thai you can read the great thread by rc_colas. It was later crossed to the legendary (Ogers Kush)created by the Oregon Kid in the 80's. The combination of the two strains makes what I'm growing and reproducing The Mother of Pearl. This cross was made by Huesos. The Phitsanulok Thai has a natural early onset of flowering that Huesos selected towards while maintaining the incredible power of each parental donor.
This is the background of the Mother of Pearl. There is information about the Ogers Kush, I can't post links as it is to a private cannabis site. There may be others I don't know.

The second strain is also from a member here that has been on a sabbatical for several years even had the rumor that he is deceased. Six yeaSix ago he popped up and said I'm not dead! Personally I think he's dead again?! lol

Mr.Greenjeans brought what were supposed to be from Mexico, from my understanding. Genetics back to Hawaii, through making inbred and filial selections. The genetics became acclimated to the Hawaiian environment and quickly became a plant of urban legend. For those that were blessed to try her, it was truly an honor.

So the Cherry Bomb is the second strain I will be doing a reproduction preservation on. It's my great honor to have these genetics and be able to give back to the community and the man who shared them with me.

I will be growing out both strains over the next two years. Keeping only the males from one strain each year for the preservation of each strain individually. In the process I will have two versions of the same plant from opposite parental donors.
(Mother of Pearl x Cherry Bomb) and ( Cherry Bomb x Mother of Pearl).

While I have done comparisons in the past with parental reversals and their progeny. Seeing these two phenotypic expressions combined excites me to no end. I will make these f1's available to the icmag and private communities.

My goal is to work towards early onset of flowering and finishing times by selections, and not the use of Ruderalis/hemp genetics. Mario of Delicatessen made incredible advances through his selections using this technique. I'm using these same techniques and I will be calling them my (Moon Strangler Series). The first hybrid cross of the Mother of Pearl x Cherry Bomb and it's reversed siblings will be called (Moon Strangler Thai).

The other three genetics that will a.so be incorporated at some time are the China Yunnan from Ace seeds, The Blue Thai from Dinafem and Casey Jones. They all have an Asian lineage and I believe that is what makes them great!

There is certainly much to be learned from this experience and endeavor. I would hope Mr.Greenjeans isn't dead and could share more details about his incredible works. I thank Neville, Kanga, Bushweed, RC_colas, Huesos, Oregon Kid and Mystic Funk of Cryptic Labs for their great efforts and decades of work. I have a vast genetics library of over 150 strains/landrace varietals. They're all on hold for this project. I have tried to give this library away, but found the cost of shipping to mount up quickly especially when shipping overseas.

I'm still refining a long term time capsule containing cannabis culture. I have had albums and various other items donated for this purpose. Long term I would love to see or know that the possibility of the dead sea scrolls could play out with cannabis seeds and cheech & chong. People millennia from now laughing at (Dave's not here!).

Peace farmerlion

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Midwestkid, thank you for your question. Honestly I don't monitor anything anymore. I could and have just to double check stuff. I really only confirmed what I already knew. A high microbial content in your soil is self balancing on everything. Please keep in mind that anything new introduced can and will have an effect on your soil.

I haul water in 3 and 5 gallon watering jugs. I add 1 tsp of Sea-90 to 3 gallons of water and 2 tsp of Sea-90 to 5 gallons of water. I don't do this with every bottle, I average 9 to 15 gallons of water per day unless it's extremely hot. Then I will give another watering at or around sundown. Then I split about 10 gallons between the 19 grow bags.

Yes with anything it can be over done. One of the best lessons I can share is , more isn't better. The amount listed on the bag and website is what Dr.Maynard Murray used for his hydroponic system. I'm sure that ratio works incredibly well for hydroponics. It will be far to rich for soil and organic health. I have discussed new packaging and rates specifically for this product with Mike the owner of Sea-Agri Solutions.

I feel he is a little nervous about jumping in bed with the cannabis industry. Marketing with cannabis packaging on their website could turn off the very traditional/conservative market he works with. Personally I would like to take his product on tour and shoow people at Cannabis Cups and Rallies what they are missing in quality and cost reductions.

I hope this helps you out , peace farmerlion

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Hey all, just stopping by to say high! Hope you all are doing well. For a hidden spot in the forums, I've been contacted by several growers with questions and support for this thread. I thank everyone for your interest.

. It will surely be a very educational experience for those who try this method. I still have the whole month of March and part of April to wait. Then I will do the cleaning in the greenhouse and then soil preparation. I have 19 grow bags in my greenhouse so final genetics selections and counts depends on actual seed germination numbers.

. I'm going to use 15 Mother of Pearl seeds reproduction, actual plant counts of other strains will follow off these numbers of germination. The Casey Jones and the Blue Thai will each have at least one bag each for sure. A few years ago I had a Blood Rose from Hazeman seeds, what a beautiful plant that was.

. I prefer to germinate directly in the final grow bags of soil. Late plants give me much anxiety and I sometimes drop more seeds into a bag. Then when they all finally come up together I'm screwed!!! So I will most likely germinate in wet paper towels and know for sure I have a tap root before I switch genetics.

. I have already stated this is about the Mother of Pearl and the Cherry Bomb genetics, so at least two bags this season will be the Cherry Bomb CherryBomb making her greenhouse debut . Next season will be the CherryBomb reproduction and a couple f1's from the Mother of Pearl male and the CherryBomb female seeds.

. This particular cross is my long term goal moving forward. I hope several of you will join me in this display of fungal repositories.
peace farmerlion

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Sorry for the butchered job of forwarding these from one thread to another.. I would like to thank VerdantGreen for the help, I was clueless on how to do it.

 

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Hello friends,
I'm working on a special project that could benefit many types of medical patients. If you have read the previous posts and watched Dr.Elaine Ingham videos on exudates this might make sense??? Might?

Since we know exudates clean beneficial bacterial nutrients and fungus off of microbes. (IF) the mycelium and spores are picked up by exudates? How does it change chemically in the cannabis plant? Does it show up as a cannabinoid? Does it show up as any type of chemical expression at all?

I will be doing a side by side study with two of the Mother of Pearl plants. I will be using a white varietal of Golden Teacher Mycelium. If I have enough mushrooms and can create enough flushing and harvests, I will do three bags in case one bag happens to be a male plant.

If a male is integrated in the mycelium will anything transfer through the pollen? I will have samples tested after harvest and see if the HPLC reveals anything. I will be trying different stages and depths of mycelium placement. I'm planning on testing in the 45 gallon grow bags. Then I can have extra repositories to influence the Rhizosphere.

The potential for a new soil mix is being considered. Good aeration and higher moisture content? The two species have very different environments that they thrive in. So there is still many things to consider. One thing is for sure, I'm going to go through a shit load of mushrooms trying to figure it out.

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Hello friends, another round of cleaning today. I have most of the big stuff taken care of, vacuuming and washing things down with vinegar tomorrow.

I will start working on the soils tomorrow as well. Some of the bags had a good moisture levels in them still from last season. I did give everything a heavy pre freeze up watering, it seems to have worked. I have two bags that are going to get combined. One 34 has a very light soil mixture and one 45 has a very heavy soil mixture.
. That might wait for another day. I have to take it slow, I have been almost bed ridden for a couple of months at home. I get out once a week and it kicks my ass. The warmer weather is helping, and I miss being active and certainly miss working in the greenhouse. Coffee with the girls in the morning isn't to far away.

Have a great rest of your weekend
peace farmerlion