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Luang Sativa

DoobieDuck

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I posted a tid bit of a report in the Flower Pix forum but many viewers may not see it there so here we are.

Luang Prabang Sativa

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Date: 03-01-08
Strain: Luang Prabang Sativa
Judge: DoobieDuck
Breeder: Gypsy Nirvana landrace seeds
Grower: DoobieDuck

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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. Visual Appeal: Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent.
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2. Visible Trichomes: Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered.
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3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for a more precise report.

Clear [ x ] Cloudy [x ] Amber [x ] Dark [ ]

4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.

Brown [x ] Green [x ] Gold [x ] Blue [ ] Grey [ ] White [ x] Red [ ] Rust [x ] Orange [x ] Purple [ ] Black [ ]

5. Bud density: [ 5 ] Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are not in their natural state leave this field blank.

6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates a pronounced presence. Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [x ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ] Berry [ ] Floral [x ] Mango [ ] Pepper [x ] Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [ ] Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ ] Cedar [ ] Grapefruit [ ] Menthol [ ]
Pineapple [ ] Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ x] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ] Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ] Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [xxx ] Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry [ ] Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]

7. Aroma [ 10] Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled bud for best results.

8. Seed content [ 1] Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.

9. Weeks cured [3 ] If known enter the number of weeks your sample has been cured. If desired repeat SSR after an additional two weeks of curing.

PHYSICAL EXAMINATION COMMENTS:
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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.

1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information below that will identify the instrument as follows:

Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc) [ ]
Vaporizer (enter the brand name) [ ]
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass) [ smal glass pipe]
Joint (enter brand of papers) [ ]
Other (specify):

2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one indicates a subtle presence and a nine indicates a very pronounced presence. Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ] Berry [ ] Floral [ 3]
Mango [ ] Pepper [3 ] Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [ ] Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ ] Cedar [ ] Grapefruit [ ] Menthol [ ] Pineapple [ ] Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [3 ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ] Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ] Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ]
Musk [ ] Spice [ 7] Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry [ ] Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]

If appropriate return to this question after 5-10 minutes and mark
with X any unmarked descriptors for lingering aftertaste.

3. Taste [ 10] Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.

4. State of dryness [ 5] Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.

5. Smoke ability [8 ] Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.

6. Smoke expansion [5 ] Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.

SMOKE TEST COMMENTS:

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FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
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Address final questions immediately after effects have worn off.

1. Dosage [2 ] Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.

2. Effect onset [2 ] Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.

3. Sativa influence [ 8] Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.

4. Indica influence [0 ] Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica influence is best described as a sedative, lethargic or numbing effect that affects the body.

5. Potency [7 ] Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.

6. Duration [2 ] Indicate the number of hours the effects lasted.

7. Tolerance build up [ ] Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.

8. Usability [ ] Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day. Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.

Morning - wake up [ ] Day - work [ ] Evening - relax [ ] Night - sleep [ ]

9. Overall satisfaction [ 6] Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.

10.Ability and conditions [7 ] Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere, current tolerance and most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.

11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use. Yes [x ] No [ ] breeder Yes[x]

12.Rate the noticable effects on a scale of 1-9 mild-severe. Take care to use the appropriate column for your response. Delete the existing space when recording your entry to maintain the columns in alignment. In all cases these casual observations should not be construed as medical advice.

What effect did the strain have check [P] off if the you got a POSITIVE EFFECT and check [N] if you had a NEGATIVE EFFECT

[P] Ability to rest or sit still: unable at first to rest but very so later on.
[P] 6...Anxiety relief
[P] 6...Appetite
[P] 8...Audio perception
[P] 9....Humor perception....very positive
[P] 10...Imagination/creativity...very positive
[N] 1....Paranoia relief..I'm always paranoid!
[P] ?....Sex drive
[P]10...Sleep....not until hour or so later but very positive then.
[P] 8 Pain relief...see notes below
[N] Speech process....mumble, mumble, mumble.......
[P] [N] Taste perception
[P]8 Thought process
[P]8 Visual perception


EXTENDED MEDICAL SURVEY (optional)

What effect did the strain have check [P] off if the you got a POSITIVE EFFECT and check [N] if you had a NEGATIVE EFFECT

[P] [N]ADD/ADHD
[P] [N]Alcoholism/Alcohol Abuse
[P] [N]Allergic rhinitis
[P] [N]Amphetamine Dependence
[P] [N]Anorexia
[P] 8 Arthritis/Musculoskeletar pain
[P] [N]Asthma/Cough
[P] [N]Bipolar disorder
[P] [N]Cancer/Chemotherapy
[P] 8 Chronic fatigue
[P] 8 Depression
[P] [N]Diarrhea
[P] [N]Drusen of Optic Nerve
[P] 6 Epilepsy
[P] [N]Glaucoma
[P] [N]Hiccough
[P] [N]High blood pressure/Racingpulse
[P] 8 Insomnia
[P] [N]Itching
[P] [N]Migraine/vascular headache
[P] [N]Muscle Spasm
[P] [N]Muscular movement disorders
[P] [N]Nausea
[P] [N]Panic Attack
[P] [N]Peripheral nerve pain
[P] [N]Post traumatic Stress Disorder
[P] [N]Pre Menstrual Syndrome
[P] [N]Sedative/Opiate Dependence
[P] [N]Schizophrenia
[P] [N]SLE - systemic lupus erythematosus
[P] [N]Spasticity in Multiple Sclerosis

FINAL COMMENTS: Suffering with severe back, shoulder and neck pain from multiple surgeries with hardware, fybromyalga, joint pain, depression, and seizure disorder...I know...I'm a mess. This strain helped me completely forget about my pain for over 2 hours. Medical marijuana does not get rid of my pain but helps mask it and improve my quality of life. Every moment of not being aware of my pain helps with my depression and my quality of life. It brings a smile back to my face and I actually am happy for awhile. Thanks Gypsy Nirvana for aquiring these landrace genetics for me to try, grow, and breed some crosses with...DD



Moer images and further report comments can be found : http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1547284#post1547284
 
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guest3854

This report was invaluable to us Doobie . I just got on-line this morning and saw this thread , not sure if you posted a grow report ; That would be much appreciated , as this as well as several other varieties are in tha line-up , started in tha next couple weeks .
Looks like you did her proper .


Steele
 

Sleepy

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that's what it's all about...

that's what it's all about...

"This strain helped me completely forget about my pain for over 2 hours. Medical marijuana does not get rid of my pain but helps mask it and improve my quality of life. Every moment of not being aware of my pain helps with my depression and my quality of life. It brings a smile back to my face and I actually am happy for awhile."

great job, doobieduck! :redface:
 
Sounds like some great meds there DD, nice report, Did you notice a potency increase after curing it a while?

Ill have to keep my eyes out for this one, you expect your going to keep running this cut for a while?


-stb
 

subrob

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saw these on the bay-have been eager to see someone run them. thanks for the report DD-great job......sub
 

DoobieDuck

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Steel..thank you...but I could have done a better job with more space and less power outages. There is a thread in the grow diaries forum for her.
Sleepy..you got the drift! ......
STB..I haven't cured her long enough yet! But I will post back here when I do so....
Subrob..thanks..
This description is from SeedBay where I obtained the seeds...DD
Description:
During a recent excursion to the east we have been lucky enough to meet with the local population of Laos and the surrounding areas. This has given us access to some of the more untainted strains the world has to offer.

Luang Prabang is a city in Northern Laos which lends it's name to these seeds. Graced beautifully by the Mekhong river this area has had the benefit of not receiving much influence from the western markets while still providing a rich and fertile area for it's indigenous strains. This has allowed the local strains to remain in their original states and therefore represents a rare and indulgent window into the past. Some of the strains in this area have been grown without outside influence for many years. We have recently sourced a batch of these seeds from a respected local farmer and are now proud to offer these to you as one of the many land race strains we will be providing in the future.

Being a landrace strain there are obviously a few points to be considered. These seeds are not stabilised in the same way many of the western bred seeds are and as a result they retain their original beauty and traits. This also presents a very intriguing challenge to the grower. These seeds may express latent traits, they will be grown away from their native environment and offer an excellent insight into historic growing. For this reason we do NOT recommend that novice growers attempt these, they are a challenge to grow well and many changes may be needed to see them reach their full native potential. If you're a serious grower looking for a challenging strain, an old school grower who remembers fondly the Thai/Laos/Cambodia based strains of the past or are a breeder looking for original strains then these may be exactly what your interested in.

Rest assured the smoke reports on these are very positive. The smoke is smooth and earthy with no roughness on the throat. An initial giddy high that slowly increases in intensity without those nasty palpitations, levelling out to a lasting high which is longer than an indica, this really is like a classic old school Asian Sativa. The bud itself is not the sparkly lime green crystal fest shown in most recent strains. The buds are shades of brown and copper with occasional hints of red, with the leafy look typical of a true Asian Sativa. Those of you who remember the fabled Thai sticks of old will definitely feel that tinge of nostalgia with this one.
 

caduceo

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The idea that a medicine exists that can help you with so many intensely painful medical conditions gives me hope to keep on living. I know this sounds sappy, but its completely true. thank you doobie, for this smoke report, and I hope your conditions clear up as soon as possible! I'd say God bless, but God only cures who he wants to, I want you to get better, not for God to choose some random dude.
 

DoobieDuck

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Youngbuck thank you very much...caduceo..yes it does help, not sure about calling it medicine..maybe "a herb"..he he ..my conditions will never get better, the outlook is for worse but I am a musician, photographer, stained glass, inlay, artist and those things along with MJ are keeping my mind busy...

here is another story about the Luange:

Hey flower pix viewers...I had this thread http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=70209 going in the Grow Diaries forum and for all of you who may have missed it I'm now presenting my flower images of the Luange Prabang Sativa from Gypsy. This ain't no heavy dense indica ..I'm happier than sh*t with these rair beautiful airy sativa buds, as most of you know I grow mainly for images, and this oddity provided some distinct pretty lookers. I haven't posted a smoke report yet but may I include a little tid bit here? It cured for weeks in jars before I broke into it and one lazy afternoon I thought "Ya...why not now?" With my wife, who smokes once a month, by my side we each had a couple tokes off a small glass bowl. Taste is very very sweet..old school sativa...yummy...spicy. Onset was about two or three minutes...and stoned! My precious bride, who was cleaning house...and had gone back to that activity after her hits, soon was at my side complaining.."what was that sh*t?...that stuff wiped me out..." well I was also indeed flying high. Very sativa high...I wanted to get up and do something but couldn't remember after I got up what I was going to do or where I was going. I wandered for awhile...she tried again to clean house and returned again with..."I don't like that stuff...it's to strong for me...I don't want to smoke that any more" ...well..it was a long, 45 minutes before we each finally came down and cleared our heads. I enjoyed it tremendously. She, as I say, is not a very tolerant smoker and it hit her very hard. Hope this sheds some light on the effect of this landrace strain...thanks for the views..thanks Gypsy..DD
 
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guest3854

Nice , brief description Doobie . Sounds like some real quality smoke and can't wait to see how they do fer us .

Steele
 

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Thank you DD for following through with your smoke report. :respect:

Looking forward to seeing other opinions as well...there's been quite a rush to obtain these lately. :canabis: Those who can provide alot of grow space, and are able to provide alot of light, will certainly be rewarded in the end. :canabis:

Toke on! :D

dg
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Yeah.......Thanks Doobie Duck for the report.....that erb' sure is trippy.......the best thing I found to do whilst high on that weed was to just kick-back in a slow boat on the Mekhong river and watch the shoreline go by on a warm day with a slight breeze, listening to the chug-chug-chug of the boats engine letting your mind soar over the 30ft high clumps of bamboo and other exotic plants and trees........Then disembarking from the boat and exploring some waterfalls..........wow! what a day.......all helped by the Luang Prabang Sativa.........



 

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DD - it's great to hear you are getting real medical benefit from the Lao herb - how would you compare these SE Asian sats with your experience of the Malawi (and hybrids thereof)?
 

DoobieDuck

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Steele thanks for stopping in...you will do well with these..sorry such a brief description...I am much better as a photographer!

DG...my sentaments exactly...those who have the space and light...the rush on sales, I',m hoping, can some what be attributed to reports and images like mine at times. I'd love to know I am helping the breeders in someway with my efforts!

Gypsy...I can hear the motor from here....we hear that as we chug along basking in the sun trolling for big lake trout...only an occasional bite will startle you.

Caligreen...I agree...wish I was there..looks down to earth...

NGAKPA...I'm not really sure about the high yet....but the smell, taste, and some growing aspects are very similar.

Thanks everyone for the posts and views...I'll be posting another smoke report in a couple months....DD
 

dobo

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It's so strange how Sativa's usually produce airy weak looking buds but holy shit do they pack a punch!! Anybody know the science behind it? I've got a few sativa dominant plants growing at the moment, I sampled a quickdried bud (microwave method) last weekend and wow it was a strong hit!! theres lots of resin but still airy..majority of trichomes were clear...going to give it another few weeks and hope it fattens up before its all amber! Much respect for your patience DD!!








Sativa plant I trained due to security is much fatter denser buds..

 

DoobieDuck

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Perpet thanks for stopping by...dobo I don't know the science behind this sativa thing but there are many threads on it here at IC....you'll have to look around? Yours look very nice...DD


 
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dobo

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Cheers I'll have a look, kinda hard to find threads because if you type in sativa you get a million hits!! Love the look of that plant!! So unique!
 

bongcritter

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Wow, nice job on the pics DD! I'd love to try some of this some day but unfortantely I just don't have the resources for such a grow....Until then I'll dream

nice grow, bro!
 
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