immaculate
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Nope. I've sat and domed bag after bag at settings 7-9 in single sessions and never "got there." Put the same medicine in a tube and BOOM!
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Lots of vapor vith the Volcano but very little effect, wtf ?
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Nope. I've sat and domed bag after bag at settings 7-9 in single sessions and never "got there." Put the same medicine in a tube and BOOM!
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Truthman
Didn't I state EQUAL TO OR BETTER THAN. You just proved my point.
Also, there was another test done showing the volcano delivered more thc than smoking as well as less by-porducts which means there is more thc being absorbed by your body as it is less diluted than smoking. I'm sure you saw the study because I posted it another thread you was in. I'm getting tired of posting the same thing, but here is the thread showing the post:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=246138&page=8
i see you on that point. very true
but for me if its 4-5 breaths or 25 breaths outta a vape it still doesn't get me where i want. always feels like half a high.
smokings just my style... i love vapoo for medibles though
not really arguin w anyone, just thought maybe the OP misses what i do from vales
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Truthman
That depends on the temperature you're using. With a lighter, of course it will be in one hit because the temperature is so high, but that is also a bad thing as a good amount of the cannabinoids will be burned. With a vaporizer you just up the temperature to 430f, don't crowd the bowl so more air can get around it, and you will release all of the thc in one hit also. This depends on what vaporizer you use also, but I don't feel like going into that. You get the point. The problem is most people think because they use half a gram when they smoke they need that much when they vape, but because it's so pure you need less. This also helps to keep the temperature accurate within the bowl.
The same thing applies to smoking. You will notice if you don't torch a bowl, but let heat float above it, and inhale at a nice slow rate, you get more flavor, and more high. This is because you aren't burning as much substances as you are when you torch it, and get a cherry going real fast. A vaporizer is even better because the heat is stable and accurate, but you have to know what temperature you're working with or you may not even release any thc.
immaculate
Member
All I see is you being torched by brotherindica. I especially liked this post:
Which, ironically, is exactly what Hornby's study proves...
The only thing these devices have going for them is the elimination of secondary material...but not without an obvious price. cannabis is already not only proven to prevent cancer, at least one study has shown that people who SMOKE cannabis are less likely to develop lung cancer than those who smoke nothing at all. Damb.
immaculate
Member
How do you vaporists medicate when you're not at home or don't have 15 minutes to heat a vaporizer.
ya i do that too. I pack it tight, and let the volcano heat up for ten minutes to heat up before first too.
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Truthman
You saw what you wanted to see. I still don't get why he chose to use flash points, and anyone with some idea on flash points would think the same thing. Do what you want, because even if you were proven wrong, you won't admit it. You are on a crusade to make vaporizing look bad. I also noticed how you didn't mention the study I posted which was from a UNIVERSITY IN THE NETHERLANDS.
I don't just vaporize for health but to get a nice pure flavor, as well as a nice clean high. I realize vaporizing isn't for everyone. Some people just want a quick, rush high and don't want to learn how to use something. Then there are people like me who don't mind taking time to learn something new, and invest in a quality product to get a better return. I would rather spend money on a high quality vaporizer then glass, and people spend $500-up easily on some glass, yet they complain about spending that on a vaporizer. I guess this is just one of the things that separate people in the cannabis scene, and shows we aren't all the same.
Do what you want, I'm done going through the same thing over, and over.
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hard rain
After nearly 35 years of mostly daily smoking I switched to a volcano earlier this year and it definitely works for me. The high is slightly different to smoking. On the occasions I switch back to smoking I hardly notice the difference. In other words I don't crave the smoking over the vape high at all. I still use pretty much the same amount of herb. The volcano is the only vape I've used apart from the vapor genie which didn't really do it for me. I don't need a scientific study to know it works.
The way I use the volcano is to 1/3 to 1/2 fill the chamber with finely ground cannabis loosely packed. I start off with the setting at 5.5 for the first run, then 6, then a third run at 6.5. Fill the bag completely each time. I am quite high after that but I then re grind the herb and do one more run at 6.5. After that throw out the used herb. I have tried vaping at higher temps but it seems harsh and really doesn't get me any higher than what I've described above.
Just about to have my first vape of the evening.
The way I use the volcano is to 1/3 to 1/2 fill the chamber with finely ground cannabis loosely packed. I start off with the setting at 5.5 for the first run, then 6, then a third run at 6.5. Fill the bag completely each time. I am quite high after that but I then re grind the herb and do one more run at 6.5. After that throw out the used herb. I have tried vaping at higher temps but it seems harsh and really doesn't get me any higher than what I've described above.
Just about to have my first vape of the evening.
for those missing out on 'all' the cannabinoids, you can cap up the leftover matrial and orally ingest the rest. it can't hurt....
for huge HUGE vape hits buy a VaporGenie delivered to your door for $55, I can only speak for the VG 'Classic' model, my exhales look just like I milked a bong. I use a blue pencil flame lighter only & I load the bowl with only half of what they recommend.
you can trim bud & pocket the VaporGenie to bring it camping, hiking or wherever you can get away with lighting a bowl. the Volcano is top dog but try a VG for the best $55 vape experience, w/in 5 hits you'll have a comfort level w/it, ten hits later you'll have it mastered.
when I dump the 'duff' it's a light toasty brown. I decided to see what might be missed by vaping & so I loaded my bong with some duff & toked, I gagged hard & blew it right back out through the bong, it had to be 100% plant material w/no resins, the harshest crap I'd ever put fire to.......
I use the Arizer Extreme-Q 4.0 @ 210 celsius with 0.15g doses. I use the whip, not the bag. And after I can't get any more visible vapor out of the weed, I usually throw it out. I don't get anything out of the vaped weed if I smoke it from a bong. Even pulverized fan leaves get me high with the vaporizer.
Chalk me up as another that has never been able to properly medicate with any vaporizer.
Changed temps, vaped for hours, changed strains and basically tried everything several times now. Everyone else gets baked... I just get disappointed. *shrug*
Stay Safe!
Changed temps, vaped for hours, changed strains and basically tried everything several times now. Everyone else gets baked... I just get disappointed. *shrug*
Stay Safe!
i've used my volcano daily for 5 years. the high is far superior to smoking for me. much cleaner (i like sativa-leaning strains). i still smoke a joint or two per evening, but mainly because i don't want the huge vape buzz again, but the medium high a joint produces.
what i found:
when i started using the volcano, the quality of my high increased by half while my consumption dropped by half.
weed must be finely ground!!!! i can't stress this enough.
just barely cover the screen (on the solid valve system!) with herb!
half a chamber!!? sweet zombie jesus, why on earth would anyone do that?!?
the first pass vaporizes all of the oils that make up the taste of the strain! every additional pass will taste more and more toasted!
i pull 2-3 bags from that small amount and it gets me well baked for at least 2 hours! (what kind of insane tolerance levels have some of you built up?
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i run the first bag at 5,5 (for 9 outta 10 strains) and at 7,5 for the last.
if you still can't get high from vaping, or if you have to turn to 8-9 to get any vapor, maybe the heating element is busted and doesn't produce the proper temp?
what i found:
when i started using the volcano, the quality of my high increased by half while my consumption dropped by half.
weed must be finely ground!!!! i can't stress this enough.
just barely cover the screen (on the solid valve system!) with herb!
half a chamber!!? sweet zombie jesus, why on earth would anyone do that?!?
the first pass vaporizes all of the oils that make up the taste of the strain! every additional pass will taste more and more toasted!
i pull 2-3 bags from that small amount and it gets me well baked for at least 2 hours! (what kind of insane tolerance levels have some of you built up?
)i run the first bag at 5,5 (for 9 outta 10 strains) and at 7,5 for the last.
if you still can't get high from vaping, or if you have to turn to 8-9 to get any vapor, maybe the heating element is busted and doesn't produce the proper temp?
Soem weed is just bette smoked and some better vaped
IME cured weed is better for smoking but i get a way better effect in the vape from fresh weed
sometimes i get FUCKED up wih a certain strain, and when i smoke it i almost dont feel it
It has lots to do with humidity level, drying strain curing or not etc.....
I dont like smoking so much anymore , i only smoke when trimming or when not at home
Vaping givbes me a way stronger and better effect that lasts longer compared to smoking
IME cured weed is better for smoking but i get a way better effect in the vape from fresh weed
sometimes i get FUCKED up wih a certain strain, and when i smoke it i almost dont feel it
It has lots to do with humidity level, drying strain curing or not etc.....
I dont like smoking so much anymore , i only smoke when trimming or when not at home
Vaping givbes me a way stronger and better effect that lasts longer compared to smoking
The Boys
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i dont know what to say, im pretty dissapointed. but as i said the first time i tried the volcano (last winter) it gave me a nice buzz but now that i have my own its not doing much. i think i notised a bit of a head buzz but it was soo mild i wasnt sure if it was just a lack of oxygen (short of breath) from holding in all those vapor hits or the weed.
I'm a lucky guy.
A wee bit o weed in Da Buddha and I'm good with lots of taste and no lung irritation.
The best hits are with the least amount because it's glass is horizontal.
I'd like to do a side by side with the Arizer because the vertical glass would expose more surface area to the heat and maybe would require less refills.
How about a worm drive in a glass tube vape feeder to work with that remote control, lose the plant material and fill the hamper with sift hash balls like bb's and it works like a pellet stove.
Grab the Doritos, strap on a catheter and you're good to go.
A wee bit o weed in Da Buddha and I'm good with lots of taste and no lung irritation.
The best hits are with the least amount because it's glass is horizontal.
I'd like to do a side by side with the Arizer because the vertical glass would expose more surface area to the heat and maybe would require less refills.
How about a worm drive in a glass tube vape feeder to work with that remote control, lose the plant material and fill the hamper with sift hash balls like bb's and it works like a pellet stove.
Grab the Doritos, strap on a catheter and you're good to go.
okay, yeah, one toke and it's all burned up. but the vapor is pure cannabinoids, so exhaling a lot of vapor is just a waste. i prefer taking six hits from 0.12 gram and not wasting what doesn't get absorbed.
again, depends on the design ... my vape heats from room temperature to 400°F in 20 seconds. i usually wait a full 90 seconds from power on to allow the trichomes to melt in the oven ... and then take the hits.
although i rarely leave my home/office (well, i unplug for about 3 hours at dinner time) my vape is battery powered and also has an AC adaptor ... any DC input from 6v to 20v -- can use a car adaptor or DeWalt power pack.
like i say, with regards to vaporizer design, they're doing it wrong
