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Ca++

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Many of you will look at that, and just know.
I wanted to drop in a couple of taps, but not forever. So I undid the pipes at a suitable location, and used flexi's to loop in some service valves. Which are garden tap threads (I think)
This is often easiest under a sink, where a flexi might already be used. Such points use rubber washers, which are good for DIY guys. Fixed pipework presents few problems, if you can find a compression fitting as I did. These use an olive, which deforms. This can make reuse on another fitting, imperfect. Some liquid pfte is the answer. It's a paste, that will bridge gaps you can see through. Meaning no crazy tightening is required. It offers about 20nm of break-away torque. About the same as needed to remove a sparkplug. It's a good answer to expected weeping. However, used on stainless or chrome, it takes days to set. Just a few hours on copper. So if you can use tape, it can be easier. These issue don't present themselves at tap flexi's where rubber washers are used predominantly.

Some asian arse washing kits contain a fitting designed just for under sinks, and toilet inlets. Both commonly use the same washer on a flexi approach. Just like a domestic washing machine
iu

You spin the flexi off the bottom of the tap/loo (after turning the water off, which should be close by) Then just put this between your homes flexi, and the tap/loo it should of screwed to. This can be a great answer to RO installs.

While searching for this Bidet fitting, I spotted a new way to consume wine
iu

About all it's good for.
 

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Many of you will look at that, and just know.
I wanted to drop in a couple of taps, but not forever. So I undid the pipes at a suitable location, and used flexi's to loop in some service valves. Which are garden tap threads (I think)
This is often easiest under a sink, where a flexi might already be used. Such points use rubber washers, which are good for DIY guys. Fixed pipework presents few problems, if you can find a compression fitting as I did. These use an olive, which deforms. This can make reuse on another fitting, imperfect. Some liquid pfte is the answer. It's a paste, that will bridge gaps you can see through. Meaning no crazy tightening is required. It offers about 20nm of break-away torque. About the same as needed to remove a sparkplug. It's a good answer to expected weeping. However, used on stainless or chrome, it takes days to set. Just a few hours on copper. So if you can use tape, it can be easier. These issue don't present themselves at tap flexi's where rubber washers are used predominantly.

Some asian arse washing kits contain a fitting designed just for under sinks, and toilet inlets. Both commonly use the same washer on a flexi approach. Just like a domestic washing machine
iu

You spin the flexi off the bottom of the tap/loo (after turning the water off, which should be close by) Then just put this between your homes flexi, and the tap/loo it should of screwed to. This can be a great answer to RO installs.

While searching for this Bidet fitting, I spotted a new way to consume wine
iu

About all it's good for.
That is very interesting setup friend. Where there's a will there's a way.
 

Ca++

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This is the 4th time I have done such a thing. It's nice to take it out, and leave no sign it ever happened. Next comes the fitment of washing machine hoses, and their solenoid valves. Though in 12v. This always leads towards some sort of automation. Even if it's just filling the tank to a level sensor. Though this time, we can expect an F&D system, with the tank filling and setting itself.

The pic looks rough, but that's mostly because the plumber here before me, as an absolute joke. This location destroyed my own faith in myself at one point, as everything I touched, broke the next bit. I even decided to leave a tap washer job, as it seemed too risky lol
 

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This is the 4th time I have done such a thing. It's nice to take it out, and leave no sign it ever happened.

:eek::biggrin: Each to there own my friend.. Only Joking.. I must say i do have the same looped pipe on the combi boiler though for when emptying the system..
 

Ca++

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I fear the plumbers work in the background, is tarnishing my own lol

It's really bad. There was once a storage tank here, with a header above, and another in the loft. Then the boiler below, was swapped for a combi. So all 3 tanks removed, and he just looped all the pipes. What you see leave the pic top and right, are just looped inches out of sight. Thing is, there is no air valve up here. Dead legs outside the regs. But worse, is that this is a cupboard, with its floor raised 12" as it's above the slope of the stairs. Essentially, there is a huge cavity of nothing below that floor. These pipes need not show. Though actually, these pipes need not exist at all, once I sort it out (one day). I have a boiler by my kitchen sink, sending hot up two floors, and back down again to the tap 18" away at most. I just moved in too fast to pull the floors and do it all again. I won't talk about the notching I have seen. I just need to move really.

And why do 15mm pipe clips come by the 100
 

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Very informative. Well, I knew most of the info, but the wine thing is really new to me!
 

Ca++

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Indeed, I always insisted on them flavoured ciders to make it better lol
 

Ca++

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It's growing
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Yellow thing first. It's a double check valve. Or you could say, it's a pair of non-return valves in one block. It's a legal requirement in many places, so in a water cut, my street can't siphon my tank. It's hozelock brand, if you wanted one.
From here it's the machine hose, up to the 12v washing machine valve. About £3 if you don't have one dumped in the street. After this on/off control valve, I drop to small gauge push-fit. John Guest stuff. Round the corner to my water meter. As this F&D tank will be filling itself, I won't know how much the plants are drinking. So need the water meter to meet changing climatic conditions. I also want to draw lines on my tank every 5-10L, and I'm not using a jug.

Next in line, I have the aeration venturi, fitted with push-fit for the job, but not fitted to the job yet.

For ideas on how you can flick a switch to have your tank fill then stop, this topics got ya
Really, just filling for you, perhaps on a timer before you get there, is life changing. So little, can mean so much.

Edit: This thin white pipe is easy to route around a house. The valve can be under your sink, where a Y piece gets you in the plumbing. Then you just have the thin pipe to get to your tank. I have laid rubber mat under carpets, to get this across halls out of view. Just this pipe and a 12v speaker wire need taking to your grow, in order to have a remove control hosepipe. No need to run pressurised copper pipe, or the easier plastic that still won't bend much.
 
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