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Im gonna have to take a walk later and gather some leaves. I think I spotted Yarrow growing wild all over the place too. Is it the yarrow flower Im after or the whole plant?
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be careful, that could be queen anne's lace or some other member of the wild carrot family which can be highly toxic/deadly
Yarrow grows wild, so you might have seen it. It is smaller than hemlock or QAL and has distinctive leaves and the roots should not look like a carrot. It also has a nice smell, somewhat similar to a balsam fir.
I just top as soon as possible...and keep topping every other node or so...just depends on which growing shoots are taller or shorter. If more tops are slower than others I may top the faster ones and allow the slower ones to catch up...essentially regulating each growing shoots height by topping until the canopy of the plant is mostly even and ready for flowering.
Some types can get like 20 to 50 tops with uniform flower size on every top...others not so...depending on genetics...others just can't keep up with that # so they are usually booted as 'faulty' plants.
It's kind of difficult to manage up to 30 types this way...but I have simply from hands on experience. Taller plants on the outside shorter ones in the middle. Some would say that taking the dominant tops take the potential for big flowers away from that top that would have made a bigger flower....but I'd rather have MORE flowers of decent size than a few big ones.
spurrsbrotha
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ain't it the truth...and higher quality to boot
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BlueJayWay
I have yucca root powder, how would ya'll use that? Also I saw "aloe powder" i think it described it as just the gel powder, and "aloe leaf powder" obviously the whole fillet, both for $15 or so for 16oz (the mountain rose herb site). The 100x cosmetic/medicinal gel powder from a different site was $120 for 16oz. I'm assuming the main difference would be the 100x will last a shit-ton longer due to its concentration, but i like the idea of having the whole leaf dried and ground up, even if i'm using "more."
If i read correctly aloe doesn't contain any or has very low Nitrogen so could be good to use throughout the grow (?) as well as the Yucca root... Alfalfa I taper off on the teas by 2nd week in flower (lots in the soil anways already) and i'm thinking the same for nettle and maybe the comfrey too? Not sure though, Thoughts?
Horestail in the soil mix too, i like that gasca...
If i read correctly aloe doesn't contain any or has very low Nitrogen so could be good to use throughout the grow (?) as well as the Yucca root... Alfalfa I taper off on the teas by 2nd week in flower (lots in the soil anways already) and i'm thinking the same for nettle and maybe the comfrey too? Not sure though, Thoughts?
Horestail in the soil mix too, i like that gasca...
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BlueJayWay
Looking outside I have a metric shit-ton of Manzanita on the property, should probably look into that, hundreds of years of composting leaves on the ground (IS the ground i should say) lots of pine but probably should just avoid excess pine. Black Oak galore around here too, shit I'm taking a field trip around the yard tomorrow!
You want the flowers though the stalks would be a good addition in a compost pile. The stalks are what the traditional Iching sticks are made from.
One thing about looking for Yarrow west of the Cascades, the Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT) sprays the sides of rural roads with a herbicide to kill a number of plants so pick the flowers as far away from the road as possible.
US Hwy 26 west of Gresham are 100's of acres of native Yarrow which is the white variety. In Eastern Oregon the native one there is/was the the one with Yellow flowers.
But you'll find yellow on this side and white on the other. I have 5 hybrids in my garden which I picked-up because the flowers are very unique like red petals with blue centers and some other beautiful combinations.
Cut the flowers and remove as much of the stem as possible. You want about 4 cups of loose flowers and add that to 1 gallon of clear water. Let that stand for 2 days and then drain & strain.
Mix 2 cups of the Yarrow 'tea' with 14 cups of water = 1 gallon. This is an uber safe tea to apply to the soil or as a foliar application.
DO NOT LET IT FERMENT
IncredibowlBoss
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CC -
2 quick follow ups:
1. Does it do any harm to include leaves? What about bulk packaged dried? These guys are OTCO certified, start at $10/lb and offer bulk discounts, so it seems like a good backup for folks who cant find fresh.
2. Any harm/advantage to aerating the yarrow 'tea'?
2 quick follow ups:
1. Does it do any harm to include leaves? What about bulk packaged dried? These guys are OTCO certified, start at $10/lb and offer bulk discounts, so it seems like a good backup for folks who cant find fresh.
2. Any harm/advantage to aerating the yarrow 'tea'?
You couldn't find a better company to order botanical products from than those folks. They are the real deal - no question about it. Another source (also located in Oregon) is Liberty Naturals though they're more commercially oriented, i.e. minimum orders, etc. But they also have a huge range of oils, dried plant material, etc.
Aeration? Sure - I do on all botanical teas not because I'm trying to grow microbe colonies but to get the plant material bouncing around in order to release the compounds which is what you're after: Terpenes, Terpenoids, Ketones, et al.
HTH
CC
EDIT: Did you mention BuffaLoam on another thread or was that someone else?
Aeration? Sure - I do on all botanical teas not because I'm trying to grow microbe colonies but to get the plant material bouncing around in order to release the compounds which is what you're after: Terpenes, Terpenoids, Ketones, et al.
HTH
CC
EDIT: Did you mention BuffaLoam on another thread or was that someone else?
They look more like the second..
Like this more or less:
and a link to the image if it doesn't show:
http://christianbates.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/240px-Equisetopsida.jpg
IncredibowlBoss
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Thanks as always, CC!
Yup - mentioned BuffaLoam in my Aloe Vera thread - just picked up 8 lbs of their compost yesterday. Seems they do a potting mix, a CT mix (which looks like it just has some added kelp), and the compost.
The stuff looks and smells good (relatively speaking - my wife no longer seems to trust my 'come smell this compost tea! It smells great!'). I've never used manure from a mammal before, but my ECSD & Golden Goat look like they need something special with how fast theyre metabolizing.
A friend who lives in the Midwest began using BuffaLoam several months ago and is really pleased. I know him to be a serious organic gardener and he takes 'soil mixing' pretty seriously.
He also buys their compost and uses that in his worm bins thereby increasing the quality.
Good humus source, IMHO
CC
He also buys their compost and uses that in his worm bins thereby increasing the quality.
Good humus source, IMHO
CC
Yep - I've seen that plant and it's usually found around lakes vs. streams or wetter marsh areas.
I need to dig out a book on wild plants and see what's up - I'm really confused now.
CC
When I searched for horsetail the first time (after reading it on the list as a great source of silica) I was surprised, because I didn't think I'd find it around here.. but it actually seems to be weedy in terms of its distribution (when you start to look for it, it's everywhere!). I thought it would be a north american only plant, or something similar.
I think one is female and one is male...the spike with the dots looks to be male.
Hey anyone used horsetail spikes and layers......I mix mine with the blood of a newborn calf.
Horsetail....female and male.....
http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/17264/enlarge
Thanks! Now it makes sense.....
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SeaMaiden
I realize this isn't exactly a forest scenario, but I can tell you that every place we ever buried a mare's placenta ALWAYS grew healthier plants. They key is that you've gotta bury it deep enough that the dogs don't get it. While it's decomposing you generally don't get gophers digging tunnels in the area. Once it's decomposed it doesn't matter, they're back with a vengeance eating all those healthier plants.
Maybe the gophers know something *we* don't...
Maybe the gophers know something *we* don't...
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