Living organic soil from start through recycling

[MrSterling]

Beautiful pistils, DM!

 

[Seandawg]

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Wow dude! That looks like something a clown fish would live in. Gnarly...

 

[rrog]

Crab shell works too, once it breaks down...

Since using a bit of Neem and crab meals I haven't seen a bug. Been well over a year.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Those rats dont deserve the delights of ceyenne! But good advice i am sure. I seem to have solved the problem with a heavy duty trap and some peanut butter. With 3 cats and a mutt that would hunt rats all day if it could i didnt expect any issues... but they are sneaky little buggers.

Hopefully thats the end of them but the trap is still set... actually that reminds me all the butter was gone last night and the trap still set. Must be mice now... lol. They better stay the fuck away from my clones!!!


The Microbe Life is $20 here and $21.50 for shipping... doh!

 

[MrSterling]

Had something tearing into dog food bags earlier in the summer. I put out a rat trap, we ended up getting nine gigantic rats.

 

[shmalphy]

Persistence is the key to rodent trapping.. I got 12 mice last year, and a few so far this year... yes, I keep a death toll lol... Keep traps set and watch for turds

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

In 1988 it was $100.00 for 10 Haze x NL#5 seeds which just blew me away - I'd never heard of 'buying' a cannabis seed

"If only"

Just starting to dig into this thread...and I like a lot of what I've read. I remember the 1987/88 seed catalogs well CC.

 

[OrganicOG]

rrog

Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3) for example, is deconstructed when it comes in to contact with Sulphuric acid thereby releasing the Ca++ from the Carbon and Oxygen ions.

Soils low in Sulphur will often suffer from 'Calcium' lockout and a good example of that in the gardening world is Coir. Coir is almost completely free from elemental Sulfur meaning that Calcium++ is not available from Limestone, Calcite Lime, Oyster shell powder, etc.

Ever see any threads on Coir boards about Calcium lockout? LOL

Think that they would ever dig deep enough into soil science to figure out that adding more elemental Calcium locked in a double-ring with Magnesium Carbonate (Dolomite Lime) is a fool's errand?

CC

Hi Cootz and icmag

Very interesting discussion in this thread, been up late reading it all night. I been growing organic for about a year now and just recently decided to make an organic coco coir mix a couple days ago actually.

Base: Roughly 50% Flushed Coco Coir, 25% local EWC, 25% perite
Amendments: Roughly 1 Tablespoon per gallon of Fish Bone, Crab, Kelp, Alfalfa Meals, Soft Rock Phosphate, Neem cake, 2 tablespoons per gallon of 'Garden' Lime, 3 tablespoons per gallon of 'Garden' Gypsum, random amount of Rock Dust (azomite type dust) and 1 tablespoon of Sul-Po-Mag for 5 gallons of soil.

I also added on top of this for good measure an extra tablespoon of neem cake and crab shell to the whole mix which was only 6 g's. Because I read that the coir hogs up some nitrogen on the wiki article and know from experience that neem and coir go together well because of the neem's slow release action.

I hope this mix is good and has all the sulfur and elements it needs covered, let me know what you think

 

[Gascanastan]

The One x Blue Moon Rocks Bx1
These future momma's and pappa's are seedlingz getting a foothold in recycled organic living soil...perhaps we can just give this trip an acronym like everything else...just say ROLS for short......no/yeah???

When the soil is fully balanced/broken down/cooked/composted and there are no longer uncomposted dried amendments capable of burning fresh young roots....seedlings can be directly transplanted into this soil with no worries. No-till pots make the best starter pots for new seedlings...these pots always end up being the healthiest of kids.

Blue Orca x NL#5/Haze
Started in beer cups using same soil as everything else. One of several kidz in which the hopeful hunt for phenotypes that supply instant enlightenment will begin.

The One x SC99 (Dutchgrown's SC99)
This cross could be a freeking monster from another planet..or a plane crash with no survivors.

 

[Gascanastan]

Blue Orca

 

[MrSterling]

What sort of places usually sell lava rocks or pumice? Pet Stores? Garden Centers? I'm going to the big big city tomorrow and the perlite has finally run out.

 

[YosemiteSam]

landscape places...they tend to have a bunch of different "rocks" that you can put around...big ol bins of them. back your truck up and they dump some in the bed for you.

edit...avoid overloading the truck, its a bitch to steer when the front tires are barely touching the ground and bouncing all over the place.

 

[MrSterling]

edit...avoid overloading the truck, its a bitch to steer when the front tires are barely touching the ground and bouncing all over the place.

Haha, thanks YS. I remember being a teenager and the gravel guy dumping a ton and a half in the back of the pickup. The poor girl floated all over the damn road.

 

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Those bloody rats killed one of my TO x BMR clones. The other one looks like its going the same way. Very droopy leaves like its bone dry and yellowing leaves on the bad one. Its a gonner for sure :/

Luckily i took cuttings a week or so before the damage. But they now have fungus gnats in the perlite they been stuck in. I reckon i can coax at least one into life.

Thanks for the kind offer lostenspace however lostenspace has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

 

[Gascanastan]

What sort of places usually sell lava rocks or pumice? Pet Stores? Garden Centers? I'm going to the big big city tomorrow and the perlite has finally run out.

Landscaping companies,nurseries,garden centers....yep. I picked up some pumice at the garden center the other day.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

The local Home Depot and Lowe's stores carry bagged crushed & sized lava rock for about $4.50 per 1 c.f. - about the same price (per c.f.) as Perlite if you buy that in the commercial 4 c.f. bags.

Worth a phone call perhaps......

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

Just DON'T buy it from a garden store - local nursery charged me $8/10 lb bag - methinks its Home Depot from now on. I did once get a 40 lb bag of large lava rock from Walmart for I think $15, but they didn't have any smaller sizes.

 

[all natural]

Olympia fish compost is the best bagged compost I've seen out there next to the old Marwest. This is what compost is supposed to look like.

The product is mostly for retail sale only around the Olympic peninsula...but it's getting further nowadays.

AS for the concern over nitrogenz.....poop on your plants and add 6 tablespoons dolomite.

I googled Olympia fish compost and get oly mountain fish compost out of the olympic penninsula. Is this the same stuff as you are talking about?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

That's it......

 

[all natural]

cool. its apparently available at a store in Gresham, Ill check it out tomorrow