also do you advise on using ro water to stop the build up of minerals in the drip lines.
my water comes out of the tap at 0.6 ec
my water comes out of the tap at 0.6 ec
Let's talk coco slabs with drippers
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those drip set ups look fine to me. but i have not seen them in action myself. but from the look and sound of them they are ideal for anyone wanting a drip system for a small number of plants.
if you have ec 0.6 tap water, then ro is useful for you. make a mixture of maybe 50/50 or 60 ro and 40% tap this way you'll get your tap ec way down, but still have the trace elements that canna is expecting in your water.
if you have ec 0.6 tap water, then ro is useful for you. make a mixture of maybe 50/50 or 60 ro and 40% tap this way you'll get your tap ec way down, but still have the trace elements that canna is expecting in your water.
1hitWONDER
Member
gaiusmarius you said in a previous post that you have a 350gal rez that last one week, so when the end of the week comes do you
a. wait till float value stops pump then refill with pre made mix for that week
b. drain everything then refill
c. flush with water
what do you do with the small amount left in the bottom of rez and in feeder lines, do you drain it all out first or just add water or nut mix on top? thanks
a. wait till float value stops pump then refill with pre made mix for that week
b. drain everything then refill
c. flush with water
what do you do with the small amount left in the bottom of rez and in feeder lines, do you drain it all out first or just add water or nut mix on top? thanks
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no man i just fill up on top of whats left in the tank. i don't drain the system more then once between runs. in fact with canna coco A+B you can even refil on top of a half full tank. used to do it in a cold place so the water temp wasn't too coldm which it would have been had i filled the whole tank at once. but now i just let the tank get as empty as the pump can make it or close to it, then i refill. between every run i scrub the tank down and empty it, but not during a run.
1hitWONDER
Member
thanks gaiusmarius
so when you mix the old solution with new you don’t get fluctuations with ph, ec?
What do you do with the first bit of run off, i see it's filtered though a pantyhose leg (builds benifical bactium). Do you manually/auto remove the first bit during certain weeks because its high in salts and other contaminents?
also how many gph is your pump?
so when you mix the old solution with new you don’t get fluctuations with ph, ec?
What do you do with the first bit of run off, i see it's filtered though a pantyhose leg (builds benifical bactium). Do you manually/auto remove the first bit during certain weeks because its high in salts and other contaminents?
also how many gph is your pump?
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John goodman
Member
helll oooooooooo
helll oooooooooo
Hi gm
im so glad i found this thread,what would you recommend res,dripper,tubing,pump for a 50 site aquatray to waste...
I'm finding it hard to dispose and carry 300ish kilos of coco up the step ladder, the mess and all them pots PPFFF ..haha...so these slabs seem fookin ideal to me..one at a time like
im running a 32x6.5ltr coco dripper system run to waste. Its my 2nd run ive had with coco ...the stuff is lovely!!!! however 3 drippers failed due to calcium or salt build and i dont think the 2ltr per hr drippers are what i need at mo.. ive been feeding through a hose pipe just on end of pump and counting in seconds on each pot...i canna take it any more!!!
as i read earlier in your thread... i too tend to run my feed on the light side, ec 1.4.
im currently running a 90ltr res, which im changing my res every 2-3 days
, depending on what stage. cant be doing with it fella ...what sorta res do u think i will need for the 50 siter ???
pukka thread Gm... love the plants your system ....your doing the do bro
what are u running ...25mm fittings? for pipes and 6mm feed ?
i think ive found my new home lol ...hiya all cya around!!
regards
John
helll oooooooooo
Hi gm
im so glad i found this thread,what would you recommend res,dripper,tubing,pump for a 50 site aquatray to waste...I'm finding it hard to dispose and carry 300ish kilos of coco up the step ladder, the mess and all them pots PPFFF ..haha...so these slabs seem fookin ideal to me..one at a time like
im running a 32x6.5ltr coco dripper system run to waste. Its my 2nd run ive had with coco ...the stuff is lovely!!!! however 3 drippers failed due to calcium or salt build and i dont think the 2ltr per hr drippers are what i need at mo.. ive been feeding through a hose pipe just on end of pump and counting in seconds on each pot...i canna take it any more!!!
as i read earlier in your thread... i too tend to run my feed on the light side, ec 1.4.
im currently running a 90ltr res, which im changing my res every 2-3 days
, depending on what stage. cant be doing with it fella ...what sorta res do u think i will need for the 50 siter ???
pukka thread Gm... love the plants your system ....your doing the do bro
what are u running ...25mm fittings? for pipes and 6mm feed ?
i think ive found my new home lol ...hiya all cya around!!
regards
John
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raygun
Active member
Has any one run a recirc coco drip suscessfully? I am currently running that set up now. I am using 2gph drippers to each plant in coco pots. Currently all in veg in 16 oz cups. I run the drippers twice a day and long enough to recycle the water in the res.
I have about 4 gal in my res and so it takes about 10-12 mins. they have been using about a gal/day or so and my ec is around 1.3 going in to the 3rd week of veg.
So far i have had no issues except i can not keep my ph under 6. It wants to stay around 6.2-6.4 It does not seem to effect the plants as they are all healthy and growing like weeds! I suspect the benifitial bacteria have somthing to do with that as i keep my res alive. I have a stocking over the drain in to the res and their is about a cup of coco in the bottom of the stocking that just sits in the res.
I am using Floranova/licious&plus, LK, Hygrozyme, Hydroguard, Organic unsulf. Molasses and a 60/40 RO/tap water as i have really hard water .8 ec.
I would like to here from more people who have tried to recirc there res with coco.
Thanks
I have about 4 gal in my res and so it takes about 10-12 mins. they have been using about a gal/day or so and my ec is around 1.3 going in to the 3rd week of veg.
So far i have had no issues except i can not keep my ph under 6. It wants to stay around 6.2-6.4 It does not seem to effect the plants as they are all healthy and growing like weeds! I suspect the benifitial bacteria have somthing to do with that as i keep my res alive. I have a stocking over the drain in to the res and their is about a cup of coco in the bottom of the stocking that just sits in the res.
I am using Floranova/licious&plus, LK, Hygrozyme, Hydroguard, Organic unsulf. Molasses and a 60/40 RO/tap water as i have really hard water .8 ec.
I would like to here from more people who have tried to recirc there res with coco.
Thanks
G
Guest
Quite a few folks use a recirculating system. You should read this thread again, there is a lot of good info in this thread ..
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raygun
Active member
I saw a few folks who run them but i have yet to see a thread about it. Most every one is run to waste. I have seen the moms on a recirc but what about the whole grow?
I am not one to ask a question with out looking for the info first. I am finding that it is working just fine myself just wanted to see if any other recirc coco growers would chime in about any issue they have run across.
I am coming from Bio-Buckets in a wardrobe and have had nothing but great sucess with that system. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....36&page=1&pp=15
is a link to my last featured grow. I just needed to run more than 4 plants this run as i have 4 strains going ATM. Grapefruit x c-99 (wally), Sourbubble Bx1 (BOG last 3 of my orig seeds), Apollos Mist F2s(my F2 of REZ AM) and my own Sour Bubble Bx1(outcrossed once and then bx to my clone mom)
The trick in this one is that the SB are so Indica and stout and the AM is so sativa and streachy it will be a chore. The SB can take a high ec no problem the the AM don't really like it heavy on the nutes. So far though no issues and i an stoked with how well the coco is performing I am thinking of running 2 Bio-Buckets and about 4 coco plants from now on. Who knows i might just convert 100% coco but i like the fact i don't have to buy anything for my buckets. I recycle the rocks as i have enough to clean one set while the other is in use. The Coco is supposed to be recyclable up to 3-4 times but not indefantly. Its not the cash as much as its the trip to the store that i trust in my driving range is about 1 hour away one way.
I guess it might be time to start a recirc Coco grow thread?
Thanks
~Raygun~
I am not one to ask a question with out looking for the info first. I am finding that it is working just fine myself just wanted to see if any other recirc coco growers would chime in about any issue they have run across.
I am coming from Bio-Buckets in a wardrobe and have had nothing but great sucess with that system. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....36&page=1&pp=15
is a link to my last featured grow. I just needed to run more than 4 plants this run as i have 4 strains going ATM. Grapefruit x c-99 (wally), Sourbubble Bx1 (BOG last 3 of my orig seeds), Apollos Mist F2s(my F2 of REZ AM) and my own Sour Bubble Bx1(outcrossed once and then bx to my clone mom)
The trick in this one is that the SB are so Indica and stout and the AM is so sativa and streachy it will be a chore. The SB can take a high ec no problem the the AM don't really like it heavy on the nutes. So far though no issues and i an stoked with how well the coco is performing I am thinking of running 2 Bio-Buckets and about 4 coco plants from now on. Who knows i might just convert 100% coco but i like the fact i don't have to buy anything for my buckets. I recycle the rocks as i have enough to clean one set while the other is in use. The Coco is supposed to be recyclable up to 3-4 times but not indefantly. Its not the cash as much as its the trip to the store that i trust in my driving range is about 1 hour away one way.
I guess it might be time to start a recirc Coco grow thread?
Thanks
~Raygun~
sorry i haven't been around as much as usual....
yo John goodman,
i like the look of your setup man. real tight see of green. like you i hate carrying my medium around, which is why i even use the same slabs a few times. you are correct about the watering fittings. a good inline filter is a great help in keeping the drip lines free. but you should always check them between runs and replace any blocked ones.
Hey skin,
i'm not 100% sure if they are 4mm or 6mm drip lines, they call them spaghetti drippers. i like that system because it works with a smaller pump then the drip systems that have a valve between the main ldpe hose and the drip lines.
Hi raygun
i have been recirculating my coco grow nutrient solution for ages. i find it makes no big difference to my yield whether i throw the return away, or let it go back to the tank. recirculating just means you have to keep a closer eye on the tank ec/ph. i even get the feeling that recirculating makes the water more alive, all the beneficial bacteria get flushed back to the tank, instead of being flushed down the drain. the only thing to worry about is salt accumulation. it's convenient to have the setup done in such a way, that you can switch to run to waste easily for when you want to flush the system.
peace out
gm
yo John goodman,
i like the look of your setup man. real tight see of green. like you i hate carrying my medium around, which is why i even use the same slabs a few times. you are correct about the watering fittings. a good inline filter is a great help in keeping the drip lines free. but you should always check them between runs and replace any blocked ones.
Hey skin,
i'm not 100% sure if they are 4mm or 6mm drip lines, they call them spaghetti drippers. i like that system because it works with a smaller pump then the drip systems that have a valve between the main ldpe hose and the drip lines.
Hi raygun
i have been recirculating my coco grow nutrient solution for ages. i find it makes no big difference to my yield whether i throw the return away, or let it go back to the tank. recirculating just means you have to keep a closer eye on the tank ec/ph. i even get the feeling that recirculating makes the water more alive, all the beneficial bacteria get flushed back to the tank, instead of being flushed down the drain. the only thing to worry about is salt accumulation. it's convenient to have the setup done in such a way, that you can switch to run to waste easily for when you want to flush the system.
peace out
gm
raygun
Active member
Cool Thanks Gaiusmarius! that is comforting to know. I have not had any problems even with my small res. I only keep about 4-5 gal at a time for now durring veg. I have noticed that the PH likes to rise up to round 6.6 about a day or 2 after adding new nutes and water. It will fluxuate from 6.2-6.8 but i would constantly have to add ph down to keep it at 5.8.
The Bio-Bizz coco that i am using is PH'd out of the bag at 6.5 it should have been flushed out good enough by now. I have added 2.5x's the water back in a 50/50 ro/tap mix and really so far nothing looks deficient. I feel like you do about the bennies in the res. I ran Bio-buckets for so long i love the active alive water aspect I atribute that to some of my PH fluxuations. I think that as the beni bac eat and help to transform the nutrients to more available forms for the plants they change the ph to best suit there needs.
It would be real easy for me to switch to waste if ever needed. I will be doing that between the flip just to rinse out the res from any possible build-up.
One thing that i have noticed with running the multiple strains from sativa to indica is that some have filled their cup with roots from top to bottom and others it seems like the coco was to moist and they never grew a full cup of roots. They are all on the same drippers and timers but i guess some just require a little less water than others. I have since removed the drippers from those on every other watering. Its teadious but until they catch up it needs to be done. Really now that I think about it, I think that its just the seeds that got a late start to replace the ones that did not germ. Its really only 2 of the apollos mist, one sour bubble(my cross) and 2 of the Orig. sour bubble bx1 from BOG.
Well thanks
Peace
~raygun~
The Bio-Bizz coco that i am using is PH'd out of the bag at 6.5 it should have been flushed out good enough by now. I have added 2.5x's the water back in a 50/50 ro/tap mix and really so far nothing looks deficient. I feel like you do about the bennies in the res. I ran Bio-buckets for so long i love the active alive water aspect I atribute that to some of my PH fluxuations. I think that as the beni bac eat and help to transform the nutrients to more available forms for the plants they change the ph to best suit there needs.
It would be real easy for me to switch to waste if ever needed. I will be doing that between the flip just to rinse out the res from any possible build-up.
One thing that i have noticed with running the multiple strains from sativa to indica is that some have filled their cup with roots from top to bottom and others it seems like the coco was to moist and they never grew a full cup of roots. They are all on the same drippers and timers but i guess some just require a little less water than others. I have since removed the drippers from those on every other watering. Its teadious but until they catch up it needs to be done. Really now that I think about it, I think that its just the seeds that got a late start to replace the ones that did not germ. Its really only 2 of the apollos mist, one sour bubble(my cross) and 2 of the Orig. sour bubble bx1 from BOG.
Well thanks
Peace
~raygun~
G
Guest
I've finally decided to switch to coco from soil. I was going to buy an 8 or 10 pot wilma system but they won't fit in my cab which is 82cm wide and 50cm deep. I'm going shopping tomorrow to pick up a couple of those large flat rubbermaid type storage boxes that slide under a bed, should be able to find ones that will fit in my cab. I'm going to use two, one as a res then place the other directly on top as the tray for the pots. I'm thinking of using 3.5 litre square pots as I already have a load of them although I might buy some larger 7 litres square ones, although I think smaller the 3.5s will be fine as I only want small plants.
I'm wondering what size pump I will need for a small 8 plant setup, the smallest is 300 litres per hour, and I can also get 400 and 800 lph models. Any suggestions as to which size would be best?
I'm wondering what size pump I will need for a small 8 plant setup, the smallest is 300 litres per hour, and I can also get 400 and 800 lph models. Any suggestions as to which size would be best?
hello Gaiusmarius ive been searching for pipes as i have some dripper pipe and cant see my pipe staying in the big bore pipe as it is too soft .
i have finnaly found someone who sells 4 mm internal diameter ldpe pipe , this i presume is what you use ? apparently quite stiff and would probably push in and stay in the big bore tube ?
i have finnaly found someone who sells 4 mm internal diameter ldpe pipe , this i presume is what you use ? apparently quite stiff and would probably push in and stay in the big bore tube ?
G
Guest
I found this automated watering gizmo, its pretty cheap and only has a 7l res, and the res is clear, but would it work for watering coco as a cheap simple dripper system?
http://www.qvcuk.com/ukqic/qvcapp.aspx/app.detail/walk.yah.UKGD~U084
http://www.qvcuk.com/ukqic/qvcapp.aspx/app.detail/walk.yah.UKGD~U084
ViktorVaughn
Member
Recirculation
Recirculation
So the system running now is coco in 2 gallon pots fed three times a day with ring-drippers made from the spaghetti tubes like mentioned near the beginning of the thread. My question is in regard to recirculation: How do you manage additions especially during flowering but in general as well? For example the nutrient regimen in use now calls for root stimulator and hygrozyme for the next three weeks switching to bud enhancer after that and then to top booster and shooting powder. If you never completely change out your reservoir how is this managed?
Recirculation
So the system running now is coco in 2 gallon pots fed three times a day with ring-drippers made from the spaghetti tubes like mentioned near the beginning of the thread. My question is in regard to recirculation: How do you manage additions especially during flowering but in general as well? For example the nutrient regimen in use now calls for root stimulator and hygrozyme for the next three weeks switching to bud enhancer after that and then to top booster and shooting powder. If you never completely change out your reservoir how is this managed?
ViktorVaughn
Member
Anyone?
Anyone?
Does anyone know the answer?
Anyone?
Does anyone know the answer?
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ViktorVaughn
Member
Dead? No!
Dead? No!
This thread can't be dead! I need it! Gaius?.. Gaius?.. Anyone?.. Gaius?..
Dead? No!
This thread can't be dead! I need it! Gaius?.. Gaius?.. Anyone?.. Gaius?..
i have only grown with drippers once but with very good results , the system was a recirculating setup with 25 litre buckets . i didnt use alot of additions to my normal feed but i had two barrels of feed and mixed one while the other one was in use and then changed over when necessary !
i only really did this for the pk 13/14 at weeks 3 and 5 of flower .
someone who knows what they are talking about will come along soon
i only really did this for the pk 13/14 at weeks 3 and 5 of flower .
someone who knows what they are talking about will come along soon
