And just to show how the odds can skew, I popped 10 seeds from an MNS pack and got all females, can’t remember it was either Z8 or Early Haze, I think Z8. They were reg seeds, Shanti wasn’t making any fems at the time.And with 10 seeds, you've got a 99.9% chance of 1 or more females. Makes the 'standard' pack amount seem pretty reasonable....