About $100 for the gallon bottle, concentrated... which makes between 133-400 gallons. That's a lot of foliar spray. Anyone want to split a bottle 10 ways?
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About $100 for the gallon bottle, concentrated... which makes between 133-400 gallons. That's a lot of foliar spray. Anyone want to split a bottle 10 ways?
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
i got Regalia along with chitosan and actinovate
im using some tried and tested strains this year that i know wont mold. i let my success of 2013 of og kush and chemdogs roll into the 2014 thinking they would do well again and we had a fall starting about 3.5 weeks early but it taught me alot so im ready this year 
Savage Seeds
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Like you I've been at this a while, the white russian don't mould even with wet humid weather which it always is around here until winter then it's cold and 4 feet of snow. Since greenhouse bred the AK47 with their White Widow I can tell you it's White fuckin Russian. I can also tell you if you want a plant that will give you huge ass yields of good bud GROW GREENHOUSE WHITE WIDOW! It's a fuckin terminator! Heat, humidity, rain, drought it don't care that bitch just grows and grows and doesn't mould; Bugs don't like it and it clones in 5-7 days.
This wasn't spose to be about WW but the point is the huge fat kalashnikova will do well I know it will I've grown white russian same thing different name.
Featherfoot yer just a dink anywhere I've seen you on here Mr. My way's the right way, get off it man.
I'm not sayin plant yer plants in the crick bottoms just take soil from there and put it where you want to grow it's got everything you need in it.
45th
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Frost dates dictate...however one plant has started for budding already at the 45th.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=304461
I use Osmocote which is slow release 14-14-14.
Check the photo album....I may even put some Short Stuff #1 out on July 4th...crazy. Weather has been awesome!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=304461
I use Osmocote which is slow release 14-14-14.
Check the photo album....I may even put some Short Stuff #1 out on July 4th...crazy. Weather has been awesome!
I have a couple locations I won't be able to visit often and wanted to set and forget. Maybe visit a couple times throughout the season but that's it. I have some osmocote plus 10-10-10 anyone have experience with it? Is it ok as a standalone or do you add anything for flower? It's 4 month release so the timing should work out for harvest.
Or if not that then another suggestion for ferts?
Or if not that then another suggestion for ferts?
MountainBudz
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Hey scrappy, yes I have used osmocote with great results guerilla growing for the past few years. It will not burn your plants and does a good job keeping them strong and healthy. You can definitely see its presence in the grow, I have ran some side by side comparisons with it before. Although, personally I will still feed with water soluble nutes along with the osmocote. If it is a true set and forget plant it will still thrive without the supplemental feeding, however, I enjoy visiting mine before a good rain and sprinkling some jacks water soluble around the base of the plant and also take a stick and poke holes in the dirt as well and also kinda ridge up a circle around the plant to keep runoff at bay and inside the perimeter. This works really well to if you want to get in and get out quick.
Also, I have had good results with miracle grow time released ferts, dynamite and triple 10-10-10 and 20-20-20 granular farm fertilizer.
I prefer to stay away from organics, well anything animals based that is due to the critters that have attacked the shit out of my plants in the past. If you are like me and are in a area with a lot of flyovers and a non medical state and can't use cages, wiring, protection of any sort then please don't waste your time with organics, (ANIMAL) based things like blood meal, bone meal, feather meal and fish. Manures, guanos and anything poo or compost base is okay and is acceptable in a true guerilla grow.
Another idea I would like to throw out is make sure you get the osmocote flower fertilizer. It may be low in nitrogen but during flower is when you will not be as comfortable visiting due to paranoia of land owners or leo possibly staking out or putting up trail cams. What i'm getting at is use the one for flower/flowering and give something supplemental higher in nitrogen during veg and once flowering kicks in you will have plenty of phosphorus in the ground to supply you during those worrisome days of budding.
Hope this makes sense to you man, its early and I have been up for the past 24 hours in the bush off and on. Got 73 plants put out last night and have a wave of comfort come across me since I have got the plants out of the indoor environment lol. I'm missing having plants around the place but not the feeling of the consequences in this piss ass state i'm in (laws that is), I actually love the state and the beautiful land we have here.
I'm sure the girls and (boys) are happier in the bush anyway hahaha.
Good luck bro!
Also, I have had good results with miracle grow time released ferts, dynamite and triple 10-10-10 and 20-20-20 granular farm fertilizer.
I prefer to stay away from organics, well anything animals based that is due to the critters that have attacked the shit out of my plants in the past. If you are like me and are in a area with a lot of flyovers and a non medical state and can't use cages, wiring, protection of any sort then please don't waste your time with organics, (ANIMAL) based things like blood meal, bone meal, feather meal and fish. Manures, guanos and anything poo or compost base is okay and is acceptable in a true guerilla grow.
Another idea I would like to throw out is make sure you get the osmocote flower fertilizer. It may be low in nitrogen but during flower is when you will not be as comfortable visiting due to paranoia of land owners or leo possibly staking out or putting up trail cams. What i'm getting at is use the one for flower/flowering and give something supplemental higher in nitrogen during veg and once flowering kicks in you will have plenty of phosphorus in the ground to supply you during those worrisome days of budding.
Hope this makes sense to you man, its early and I have been up for the past 24 hours in the bush off and on. Got 73 plants put out last night and have a wave of comfort come across me since I have got the plants out of the indoor environment lol. I'm missing having plants around the place but not the feeling of the consequences in this piss ass state i'm in (laws that is), I actually love the state and the beautiful land we have here.
I'm sure the girls and (boys) are happier in the bush anyway hahaha.
Good luck bro!
Hey scrappy, yes I have used osmocote with great results guerilla growing for the past few years. It will not burn your plants and does a good job keeping them strong and healthy. You can definitely see its presence in the grow, I have ran some side by side comparisons with it before. Although, personally I will still feed with water soluble nutes along with the osmocote. If it is a true set and forget plant it will still thrive without the supplemental feeding, however, I enjoy visiting mine before a good rain and sprinkling some jacks water soluble around the base of the plant and also take a stick and poke holes in the dirt as well and also kinda ridge up a circle around the plant to keep runoff at bay and inside the perimeter. This works really well to if you want to get in and get out quick.
Also, I have had good results with miracle grow time released ferts, dynamite and triple 10-10-10 and 20-20-20 granular farm fertilizer.
I prefer to stay away from organics, well anything animals based that is due to the critters that have attacked the shit out of my plants in the past. If you are like me and are in a area with a lot of flyovers and a non medical state and can't use cages, wiring, protection of any sort then please don't waste your time with organics, (ANIMAL) based things like blood meal, bone meal, feather meal and fish. Manures, guanos and anything poo or compost base is okay and is acceptable in a true guerilla grow.
Another idea I would like to throw out is make sure you get the osmocote flower fertilizer. It may be low in nitrogen but during flower is when you will not be as comfortable visiting due to paranoia of land owners or leo possibly staking out or putting up trail cams. What i'm getting at is use the one for flower/flowering and give something supplemental higher in nitrogen during veg and once flowering kicks in you will have plenty of phosphorus in the ground to supply you during those worrisome days of budding.
Hope this makes sense to you man, its early and I have been up for the past 24 hours in the bush off and on. Got 73 plants put out last night and have a wave of comfort come across me since I have got the plants out of the indoor environment lol. I'm missing having plants around the place but not the feeling of the consequences in this piss ass state i'm in (laws that is), I actually love the state and the beautiful land we have here.
I'm sure the girls and (boys) are happier in the bush anyway hahaha.
Good luck bro!
Are you talking about the osmocote flower and vegetable 14-14-14? Not finding anything lower in nitrogen than that.
Also did you have any critters with the dynomite? Which one do you recommend, the mater magic? I'm thinking that might be a better option because it's only 3 month release and then I can amend with something more controllable to be able to make sure it's nice and flushed before harvest.
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
im having great results with the organic soil i used from buildasoil. it dont have no blood,bone or fish meal in it. only thing that worried me at first when i decided to go this route was the crustaceion meal,but when i got the soil i opened the box thinking i was gonna get a huge fish/rotten smell but nope it had no smell at all like that.it was really earthy type of smell..all i had was little small starter cages and nothing even tried to dig at the soil..i wanted to try organics this year just to see for my self if all the hype of what i read is true. i think u know as well as me though ppl here in our area dont give a shit what weed taste like as long as it gets them high they dont complain,but its not like they can run down to a dispensary and get another brand if they dont like the taste lol. i have seen bags ppl has bought before that smelled horrible,taste horrible but would fry them out and they would say " its a little bit harsh but it will fkk u up I LOVE IT" lol im not gonna sale none the organic though i will most likely keep that for my self this year.Hey scrappy, yes I have used osmocote with great results guerilla growing for the past few years. It will not burn your plants and does a good job keeping them strong and healthy. You can definitely see its presence in the grow, I have ran some side by side comparisons with it before. Although, personally I will still feed with water soluble nutes along with the osmocote. If it is a true set and forget plant it will still thrive without the supplemental feeding, however, I enjoy visiting mine before a good rain and sprinkling some jacks water soluble around the base of the plant and also take a stick and poke holes in the dirt as well and also kinda ridge up a circle around the plant to keep runoff at bay and inside the perimeter. This works really well to if you want to get in and get out quick.
Also, I have had good results with miracle grow time released ferts, dynamite and triple 10-10-10 and 20-20-20 granular farm fertilizer.
I prefer to stay away from organics, well anything animals based that is due to the critters that have attacked the shit out of my plants in the past. If you are like me and are in a area with a lot of flyovers and a non medical state and can't use cages, wiring, protection of any sort then please don't waste your time with organics, (ANIMAL) based things like blood meal, bone meal, feather meal and fish. Manures, guanos and anything poo or compost base is okay and is acceptable in a true guerilla grow.
Another idea I would like to throw out is make sure you get the osmocote flower fertilizer. It may be low in nitrogen but during flower is when you will not be as comfortable visiting due to paranoia of land owners or leo possibly staking out or putting up trail cams. What i'm getting at is use the one for flower/flowering and give something supplemental higher in nitrogen during veg and once flowering kicks in you will have plenty of phosphorus in the ground to supply you during those worrisome days of budding.
Hope this makes sense to you man, its early and I have been up for the past 24 hours in the bush off and on. Got 73 plants put out last night and have a wave of comfort come across me since I have got the plants out of the indoor environment lol. I'm missing having plants around the place but not the feeling of the consequences in this piss ass state i'm in (laws that is), I actually love the state and the beautiful land we have here.
I'm sure the girls and (boys) are happier in the bush anyway hahaha.
Good luck bro!
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
this one is the one i always see at walmart. i have never used any of their stuff though but ur right 14 appears to be the lowest one that i can find. this has 11 essential nutrients in it. i thought we had to have 16 to reach full potential?
http://www.amazon.com/Osmocote-Outd...435283949&sr=8-2&keywords=fertilizer+osmocote
Actually I was wrong I don't have that one or it's somewhere but can't find it. I have the osmocote plus outdoor and indoor which is 15-9-12 which is a 6 month time release. I'm gonna use it anyway and put it in a couple socks buried with the tip sticking out and then in August I'll pull it out and replace with a bloom formula.
I have another patch I'll be able to visit more often and going to do all organic at that location. It'll be interesting to see the difference in performance.
I have another patch I'll be able to visit more often and going to do all organic at that location. It'll be interesting to see the difference in performance.
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
thats a damn good ideal with the sock thing. i have never thought about doing that lol it sounds like u and I are doing same type of growing this year. i got 1 plot that is 100% organic. i got another that im just using maxi gro,maxi bloom,rapid start and florialicious plus and the last one im gonna be doing veg+bloom dirty with + size bud factor x and overdrive
Savage Seeds
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Nother tidbit of info most of you probly already know if you have a wood stove or have a fire pit of some sort. Burn up a pile of hardwood ( Just hardwood ) Scrap paper works too, till it's nice fine ash, let it cool down obviously then contractor bag that shit up and collect as much as you can till your plants start to bud. Then every time you go to visit your plants before a rain or even before a watering throw 3-5 hand fulls of that grey gold at the base of your plants or a hand full or 2 in your watering pails and give it to your plants you want them buds to swell up that's about the cheapest bloom booster your ever gonna find.
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Tell me more about water crystals... how hot does it need to be to use them / how much are you using?
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MountainBudz
⛽🦨 Kinebud and Heirloom Preservationist! 🦨 ⛽
I personally use the Miracle Gro water crystals. There is no NPK in them, just plain ole water crystals and a single bag will do ALOT of plants.
There are 3 different ways that I use them.
1) Dig hole, amend soil and throw a palm full on top of dirt and mix thoroughly. Also before you amend soil put a few in the bottom of the hole as well to keep the lower roots saturated, you never know how dry it could get.
2) Dig hole, prepare soil. Put the crsytals on top of dirt over night or for 2 or 3 days, let the dew and/or rain charge them and feed them H20. Come back after a few days and then mix them in thoroughly.
3) Probably the best way but not as compatible as option one and two, is to put a handful in the bottom of milk jug, fill half way with water. Let stand for about 20 minutes until all crystals are full and absorbed. Then add more water until you have standing liquid and they stop absorbing and they are fully charged. Then mix with soil by however much you feel it needs.
Be careful with option one and two as if you put too many in the hole, it rains and they swell up so much that they push the dirt out of the ground, have had this happen. Just wait to plant until 2 days or so after prepping to make sure.
How hot does it have to be? It doesn't matter as much to how hot as to how "dry". Everyone can benefit from them regardless of climate, basically. Unless your in a marshy area, swampy or what have you.
On the osmocote, it doesn't really matter which type you use, i'd still give supplemental feeding for "better" results, just read the plant. Now with osmocote, a bit different. There is a difference between controlled release and time released. Controlled release as with osmocote is released by heat and not so much water degradation. Time released is as it states it is, just simply released in time.
Still, give supplemental feeding lol. Hope this helped!
There are 3 different ways that I use them.
1) Dig hole, amend soil and throw a palm full on top of dirt and mix thoroughly. Also before you amend soil put a few in the bottom of the hole as well to keep the lower roots saturated, you never know how dry it could get.
2) Dig hole, prepare soil. Put the crsytals on top of dirt over night or for 2 or 3 days, let the dew and/or rain charge them and feed them H20. Come back after a few days and then mix them in thoroughly.
3) Probably the best way but not as compatible as option one and two, is to put a handful in the bottom of milk jug, fill half way with water. Let stand for about 20 minutes until all crystals are full and absorbed. Then add more water until you have standing liquid and they stop absorbing and they are fully charged. Then mix with soil by however much you feel it needs.
Be careful with option one and two as if you put too many in the hole, it rains and they swell up so much that they push the dirt out of the ground, have had this happen. Just wait to plant until 2 days or so after prepping to make sure.
How hot does it have to be? It doesn't matter as much to how hot as to how "dry". Everyone can benefit from them regardless of climate, basically. Unless your in a marshy area, swampy or what have you.
On the osmocote, it doesn't really matter which type you use, i'd still give supplemental feeding for "better" results, just read the plant. Now with osmocote, a bit different. There is a difference between controlled release and time released. Controlled release as with osmocote is released by heat and not so much water degradation. Time released is as it states it is, just simply released in time.
Still, give supplemental feeding lol. Hope this helped!
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
I personally use the Miracle Gro water crystals. There is no NPK in them, just plain ole water crystals and a single bag will do ALOT of plants.
There are 3 different ways that I use them.
1) Dig hole, amend soil and throw a palm full on top of dirt and mix thoroughly. Also before you amend soil put a few in the bottom of the hole as well to keep the lower roots saturated, you never know how dry it could get.
2) Dig hole, prepare soil. Put the crsytals on top of dirt over night or for 2 or 3 days, let the dew and/or rain charge them and feed them H20. Come back after a few days and then mix them in thoroughly.
3) Probably the best way but not as compatible as option one and two, is to put a handful in the bottom of milk jug, fill half way with water. Let stand for about 20 minutes until all crystals are full and absorbed. Then add more water until you have standing liquid and they stop absorbing and they are fully charged. Then mix with soil by however much you feel it needs.
Be careful with option one and two as if you put too many in the hole, it rains and they swell up so much that they push the dirt out of the ground, have had this happen. Just wait to plant until 2 days or so after prepping to make sure.
How hot does it have to be? It doesn't matter as much to how hot as to how "dry". Everyone can benefit from them regardless of climate, basically. Unless your in a marshy area, swampy or what have you.
On the osmocote, it doesn't really matter which type you use, i'd still give supplemental feeding for "better" results, just read the plant. Now with osmocote, a bit different. There is a difference between controlled release and time released. Controlled release as with osmocote is released by heat and not so much water degradation. Time released is as it states it is, just simply released in time.
Still, give supplemental feeding lol. Hope this helped!
good ideal about charging those water crystals first. im gonna have to start using those next year to see how well they work. i have never used them lol i just did shit the old fashion hard way "pack it in" lol but i do have water sources at 4 of my spots so that makes it alot easier. did u get those storms we have been having? a wind storm here blew 2 my plants down. the biddy was uprooted so i tilted it back up to the way it was standing before hte storm and took and pressed really hard at the base of the stalk to sorta compact the soil around it. i then used a forked stick to prop the plant up so it cant move now. im loving the rain tho! it rained last nite and today we got full sun which the plants was loving. i had to tie up the big tall church in another spot so its braced in 4 spots now. i was very relived to see all my biggest plants all standing upright and doing fine at all the plots. the purple maroc blew over but it didnt uproot it,just had mother nature super crop it for me but it was already correcting its self when i got this this evening. my incredible bulk is coming along now to woot! stay safe brother
Heh, I have read a lot of hunter s. Thompson, but managed to miss that one. Awesome quote, and I see ur point
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Now I want to see some product produced via this system.
Got pics? Hard to imagine it comes out decent. Howsit smoke?
Got pics? Hard to imagine it comes out decent. Howsit smoke?
MountainBudz
⛽🦨 Kinebud and Heirloom Preservationist! 🦨 ⛽
Do not have any pics, but i'd imagine it being hard to imagine how the product would turn out bad. I always use them and always have the best smoke around here. If anything it increases yield and quality due to giving water when there is no other source, thats a bonus, is it not? It also loosens and aerates clay and hard packed soils, that is a bonus as well? I would like to think so.
As far as "how does it smoke?" hmmm.... How does cannabis grown with water smoke? I think all cannabis has a little water here and there in its lifetime.
Does it affect taste? I don't know, does water affect taste? Not to my knowledge.
People are too picky when it comes to growing. They take all this info they read in these books and stuff and get obsessed with it. Cannabis doesn't need all that junk, it really don't. I have spent at least $400 on books and guides and the basics are always helpful anything beyond that I just feel like throwing them away or getting refunds. Its all a joke and a technique to make money for the distributor.
I don't even read those books anymore. Once you do a true guerilla grow or two you will learn everything you'll ever need in those two years.
Happy growing guys, keep er green!
As far as "how does it smoke?" hmmm.... How does cannabis grown with water smoke? I think all cannabis has a little water here and there in its lifetime.
Does it affect taste? I don't know, does water affect taste? Not to my knowledge.
People are too picky when it comes to growing. They take all this info they read in these books and stuff and get obsessed with it. Cannabis doesn't need all that junk, it really don't. I have spent at least $400 on books and guides and the basics are always helpful anything beyond that I just feel like throwing them away or getting refunds. Its all a joke and a technique to make money for the distributor.
I don't even read those books anymore. Once you do a true guerilla grow or two you will learn everything you'll ever need in those two years.
Happy growing guys, keep er green!
