Lets discuss some tactics and methods of late planting

[MountainBudz]

Hello fellow guerillas,

I would like to discuss and start a thread about late planting methods and tactics that you personally use or know someone that does. I would like to get in depth with things, this is important to my part of the country, a lot of people need this information.

I personally have some methods of my own that I used and have used I will discuss as well. Please add notes as to your latitude, plant DOB or (date of root) to planting dates, hole perimeter or containers used, yields, method of fertilization etc. Also throw in your security measures, types of late planting locations and even pictures would be amazing.

When I think of planting late I like and have used the idea of mini type sea of greens, planting edges of crop fields to blend in with the tree lines. This year I think I will try out some late plantings in soybean fields, heard a lot of success stories involving these, as they are low and allow more sunlight and airflow compared to corn.

What types of locations do you like to do late plantings in?

I used to get as many bag seed as possible which was in the thousands range and just go everywhere digging 2 foot by 6 foot trenches about a foot deep, throw in some time released ferts, water crystals and maybe even mix in a few bags of cheap soil into the native, and plant around 20-30 seedlings in the trenches. Come back in about a month, cut the males and end up pulling about a half lb to lb of bud.

This year I am focusing more on yield and weight than anything. I have a steady supply of medical top notch bud on hand most any time I need it. I am financially injured this year and I want that to change. It has to change.

I'd like to hear from some weight pullers and commercial guerillas here, the season is getting close to the flowering period for cannabis here in my parts. Well i'm at 36 latitude so im assuming sometime in late July is when I usually go cut males that have pre-sexed. But not sure, I dont usually keep up with it.

I know that I have scouted many of amazing places to do some late plantings but when it comes down to parking and moving into the areas I get this paranoia that makes me change my mind and I get in and get out too quick, not putting enough effort into it. Wish in a lot of ways I hadn't of never told my DOC that I don't need my xanax anymore lol. Honestly, taken as prescribed it helped me for many years get in and get my shit done.

Anyways guys lets start talking about methods of pulling some heavy ass weight here. I need 10 lbs this year and would be happy with 7. I know there are people out there that can teach me things that I dont know, but I do know a lot. Sometimes just discussing the topics help and seeing pics or stories of some nice late grows are very helpful!

 

[MountainBudz]

By the way another reason I haven't started really pushing out large small crops yet is because of LEO aerial eradication. They start every year on July 1st in my state. I Kind just wanna hold a lot of the plants back to get an idea on how hard they will be beating the bush in the choppers before I throw em out. Sometimes by watching them you see that they do certain and new types of flying methods every year or so, fly more heavy in certain locations and all. This usually gives me an idea of which route or part of the counties I want to start in.

 

[Oakhills]

How does LEO eradicate the plants? Do they pollinate with Ruderalis or hemp? Or do they spray with something like Round Up (Agent Orange) type of stuff.

Whatever it is it sounds somewhat illegal to native plants and just downright sucks!

 

[Savage Seeds]

Couple questions first then we'll go from there. Are you willing and able to buy seeds? If not what do you have now and can you clone? Is potency a relative concern or none at all? Are willing and able to put blood and lots of sweat into it? Some store bought soil too?

Answer these and lets get this party started brother! I LIKE IT!

 

[MountainBudz]

I have plenty of seeds. I have several strains running this year. Powerkush, Kolossus, Kalishnikova, Rosetta Stoned, California Hash Plant, Seawarp, 1/2 joint, Getaway special, brain twister, swamp skunk, dead head og x strawberry dog shit, flowerbomb kush x strawberry dog shit, gorilla glue x strawberry dogshit, critical nevilles haze x strawberry dog shit, any have access to clones in mid July. Also running some iranian and some local bred afghan dominate strains.

I have already put much blood and sweat into it and will continue to do so. I have plenty of pro-mix, sunshine mix and amendments. But I mix very little into the soil as around here of you use straight organic mixes you have to water constantly. No problem with the clay based soil here in the appalachians, we have some of the richest native soil there is for ole mary jane.

Now lets get started.

 

[MountainBudz]

LEO eradicates the plants by flying in choppers, repelling down, cutting all the plants down and leaving you with nothing. They find one, they will find them all.

 

[MountainBudz]

If I lived somewhere where all these people do not understand LEO eradication and the security measures we have to take in this area, i'd be living on top of the moon! Consider yourself lucky very blessed as well to not know what eradication means.

Guerilla growing is hard work, your ONLY choice here is to guerilla grow to the most extreme measures.

 

[MountainBudz]

C'mon guys lets get serious with this shit. I wan't to pull some weight and I want to help others pull some weight as well. Lets get in depth and start a good discussion on late planting so with these late planting questions popping up every year we can finalize right here in this thread. I don't see enough on it but the same ole same ole stuff all the time. There is no depth to anything, no pictures, no talk about yields or anything of that sort. Nothing other than " No, its not too late".

I mean we all know that it is never hardly too late to pull a few grams off a plant. We need to talk about methods of planting late and producing pounds whether it be a method using 3 or 4 plants or 3 or 4 hundred. We can do this. Speak up. You hermit anti-social browsing geniuses out there that never say or post anything, you guys come into this too lol. I have thousands of seeds to choose from, I need more advice. I have planted late with seeds before but never this late. But no matter how late, if its before flowering triggers there still has to be a way to pull the weight whether it be a few grams per plant or a couple oz per.

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

from july 1 to august 20... roughly 50 days veg... clones does better but you can pull 100 gramm / plants from seed plants. you need a lots of plants, a lots of good soil and water twice a day if its possible. thats all what you can do, the veg time is limited but you can get serious results with plants what you take out on july 1.

did this some years ago, the plants finished 2 metres tall, grew 4 cm a day!

 

[MountainBudz]

Featherfoot, sometime I believe people only read what they want to read and then take advantage of what little they do know about that certain subject. If you have been keeping my up with my posts to know about the late planting talks and all you have only been seeing what you want to see. I have over 400 seedlings as of now ready to go out. I have 82 clones rooting, in the process. I have been digging since May putting about 5 to 10 plants out every other day. So my plant numbers are very much up there my friend. More than most guys and their partners combined. And I am solo. I have 12 huge bushes that I have used these spots year after year, year before last I pulled 7lbs by myself and all my prep work has been done throughout fall and winter. I consider any prep work done after May to be late. Sorry you took this post in the wrong way and you have misread a lot on your stroll along reading them.

There are methods as well as a matter of fact. I know ive left a pot of info out that I shouldn't as well here and there, I jump the gun too much. Thanks for the good info but dont assume I dont know anything or much. Ive been doing this in rural Appalachia for 13 years.

Now anyone else want to throw their opinions out there about the subject? And if you have anything negative to say or cannot understand the message im getting out please dont take the time to waste your time.

 

[MountainBudz]

And thanks for irritating me as well. Love it, as it pushes me to keep pushing. Thats what I meant by motivation, your good at that.

 

[MountainBudz]

Featherfoot, the daylight hours as of today are 14 hours and 40 mins. Tomorrow is the longest day of the year here.

 

[Bud Green]

Start earlier next year, so they look like this by July 18th..

I'm at 35N..

 

[DJbigbud]

Good time of the year to put out some autos, they are made to finish quick from seed and 2-4oz each is possible with a little skill and the right genetics. I just popped 20 more cuz some bad weather lately has me worried about the ones I put out a few weeks ago. Im near us/can border and we get a hard frost usually by mid sept, so time is getting short for me.

 

[Savage Seeds]

I'll be back with all I got on this subject when I get home tomorrow and I'm not on this xbox tryin to type. You got some big weight strains there with the fixins to make it happen in a short time frame. People on here know by now I won't post pictures but I can help I'm in your situation pretty much every other year and still make 6x6 foot plants happen on bad years.

 

[MountainBudz]

Good time of the year to put out some autos, they are made to finish quick from seed and 2-4oz each is possible with a little skill and the right genetics. I just popped 20 more cuz some bad weather lately has me worried about the ones I put out a few weeks ago. Im near us/can border and we get a hard frost usually by mid sept, so time is getting short for me.

What about semi-auto strains? I have plenty of those. No full autos and can't order auto seeds till around end of July if I wanted to go that route. But my season doesn't end till around mid to end October sometimes even runs into November but not too often. (Talking about first frost here).

 

[MountainBudz]

I'll be back with all I got on this subject when I get home tomorrow and I'm not on this xbox tryin to type. You got some big weight strains there with the fixins to make it happen in a short time frame. People on here know by now I won't post pictures but I can help I'm in your situation pretty much every other year and still make 6x6 foot plants happen on bad years.

Savage, that sounds great bro! Lets hear some details my friend. If there is anything you don't want to disclose on here you can PM me if ya want. Do you know much about getaway mountains seeds? Looks like he is a solid breeder. A lot of his seeds are bred in Maine and are adjusted to that climate, but all should be mold resistant. Just wondering how those will do down here in Ky in my environment.

 

[Savage Seeds]

I have plenty of seeds. I have several strains running this year. Powerkush, Kolossus, Kalishnikova, Rosetta Stoned, California Hash Plant, Seawarp, 1/2 joint, Getaway special, brain twister, swamp skunk, dead head og x strawberry dog shit, flowerbomb kush x strawberry dog shit, gorilla glue x strawberry dogshit, critical nevilles haze x strawberry dog shit, any have access to clones in mid July. Also running some iranian and some local bred afghan dominate strains.

I have already put much blood and sweat into it and will continue to do so. I have plenty of pro-mix, sunshine mix and amendments. But I mix very little into the soil as around here of you use straight organic mixes you have to water constantly. No problem with the clay based soil here in the Appalachians, we have some of the richest native soil there is for ole mary jane.

Now lets get started.

The strains I highlighted bold and orange I know for a fact will get big and fat, kalashnikova is the exact same thing as white russian and that's a huuuuuge bitch. Seawarp, never grown it but I'm guessin it's a child of texada timewarp which is a commercial producer in the worst of weather, Swamp Skunk just sounds awesome, I mean come on it's skunk. Critical Nevilles haze has monstrosity written all over it, never heard of strawberry dog shit though you'll have to fill me in on it but I'd plant the balls outta that plant. California hash plant gets big fat buds on em, and anything afghani is just a win outdoors. The rest of the strains you mention I have no experience with but would like to hear more about em brother!

Soils

The fuzz is the same here as they are where you are, they find plants they come down and chop em on ya, fuckin assholes. But since you got lots of pro mix and sunshine mix I would highly advise diggin large holes or trenches and fill em up with one plant per hole and however many you want per trench. The more neutral the ph and airy your holes are the better and faster your plants will grow that's just that way it is there's no way around it really.

Watering

The more you can control the amount of water they get the better off you'll be, If you can mulch the shit out of your holes and trenches so when it rains it doesn't water for you that's even better. People who grow praise the rain and it's good to a certain extent, but nothin will slow your growth down faster outside than a constantly saturated root systems and dark skies.

Food

You want your plants to grow fast and big you need chemical fertilizers, I don't give a shit what anybody says I've use no ferts, organic ferts, and chemical all in the same patch for shit and giggles and the chemical wins tenfold; I mean it's embarrassing for the organics to even think they have a snowballs chance in hell keepin up with them.

You can use time release fertz but then you need rain to activate them or " heat " alot of the time they don't even work. Know what I've stuck with after tryin everything else out there? Miracle gro 20-20-20 for veg 15-30-15 for bud it's cheap and it straight up works. Best part about it is it's water soluble so you feed the plant on your time and on a schedule that's how you max em out as fast as possible outddor.

If you absolutely have to use native soil then I'd go to the creek bottoms that's where all the good shit is, amend it a little bit with some pro mix or sunshine mix just to loosen it up for better root growth.

I'm sick and tired right now brother I'll be back with more tomorrow brother I hope some of this helped, I do what I can to help outdoor growers out, I also still learn new tricks and tips too always will. A old feller once told me it's what you learn after you know it all that really matters.

 

[panick503]

Hey featherfoot, my grandma used to say, if u don't have anything nice to say, and nobody said anything mean to u, shut up and leave the thread... or try not to come off so negative brah...

And I'll edit to say I reread ur posts, u actually have some good info, albeit info the OP and any competent grower would already know... thanks for sharing ur experiences on methamphetamines too, that helps put things in perspective...

 

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