LEO using cameras at outdoor grow

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Stealth Cam Digital 5.0mp Infrared Flash Camera·
5 Mega-pixel Infrared Scouting Camera ·
1.8" Built in COLOR TFT LCD screen (for viewing images in the field) ·Full color day time images / Black & White night images ·
63 IR emitters illuminate without using flash ·
32 MB built in memory ·
Expandable CompactFlash card slot accepts up to 1 GB memory card ·
Time & Date stamped on every image · Programable to shoot 1-3 images per triggering or 10 seconds of MPEG video ·
1-60 minute time out between triggering ·
external LCD screen displays image count ·
Adjustable PIR sensor ·
Auxillary power port for use with optional 12V Lead Acid battery pack for extended field life · Three resolution settings · Test mode to ensure optimum placement of camera · USB out and cable included for PC download · Video out for viewing images on TV · Mounting strap, lock plate and Ulead Imaging software included

Vertie
Thanks for the research I learned a lot and wanted to take the discussion a little bit further.
I still say this will become such an accepted practice as the price of theses cameras go down that any time LEO or concerned citizen finds MJ in the OD he will use this standard practice hoping to find evidence to prosecute. That’s why I want to keep pushing the subject.

Copied this from a link in your post. Actually a link from your link. As we have been discussing this specification sheet (Above) from this camera points out both technologies.
The first being the IR emitters (Emit = transmit) and the PIR sensor which is the technology behind the motion detection(Receiving device).

The only chance of detecting theses devices would be when the PIR senses you (heat/light) the IR emitters act like a flash and turn on. You then might have a chance using the IR sensitive camera you pointed out. Looking for the IR emitters to glow. It would not be easy as they could be mounted anywhere and you would have to trigger the motion detection device each time you wanted to use IR sensitive camera.

Now to take this to the nth degree of complicated. Do you think the camera turns on the IR emitters even in daylight? If not you are stuck again with the fact that there is no way to detect the PIR because it is passive and listens only.

 

[supermanlives]

nightvision will pick up the ir from the cameras just like your eyes see a flash. both my nightvision setups have ir illumination.nothing special its either a flash or ir illumination. most cameras suck at details tho they aint got much pic quality except close up.

 

[hamstring]

Supermanlives
Thanks for stopping in.
Night vision sounds cool. I have seen this on the net but always saw it as too expensive. I also didn’t realize they had IR detection on them. Makes sense since they use IR to illuminate. What does a night vision set up cost and what is your opinion on how they work? Do you check plants at night using the night vision? I just love the sound of sneaking around in the woods using night vision.

 

[Mjguru]

wear bird hat....binoculars...and dress up like a dork,
go loooking for all your plants, find all of your patches EXAMINE THEM
THEN, after everything is safe...go get ur shit ( water, fert,extrasoil,)
and go attend them after u check for safety.,


law enforcement is so fucking retarded and high strung...if u walk by your plants wearing what i told u , basically the cameras are set up for that extra "umph" when they take u to court. and if they were not there stakeing out the grow when uy check it wtf does it mattter just wear ronald regan mask when u check ur grow, lol, but essantially after u go around checking ur grows, if they are camping them, they will still leap out and "bust" you, or wait till u walk away and send ppl in to get u. either or it dont matter because u will know they are there. remember u have a fucking most execellent excuse. a excuse they have to belive cause u give them no other reason to not belive u.,.. i mean u are dressed for bird watching.
the whole idea of this trick is to trick them. granite i dont know many that had there grow camped out.. but i know a few good ppl that never been caught in 30years outdoors, this analogy was his, i would use if i were outdoor growing, its prefect.

 

[Guest]

they could have cameras in the trees up high, in the ground down low, basically ANYWHERE.....outdoor growing is SKETCHY. especially when you consider the helicopter factor. now, CAMERAS? damn..not going to be riskin that these days...

 

[pipeline]

If you are at the plot often enough, you will likely notice something out of place or new smashed down vegetation if the police are involved. Although its probably not a bad idea to cover your face with a shirt or something during the late summer/fall trips if you're at all worried about cameras in the area.

This is also a good reason to go at the break of dawn, before anyone gets up.

 

[Verite]

Or you could always wear a spotlight of IR leds on a head band and any attempt to "see" your face will show up as a bright light on a torso and be completely dark to everything else. Bummer if they are actively monitoring it though as they'll see you coming from a mile away.

 

[Guest]

I have a long time friend who lives and grows in Florida. He is the paranoid type that marks and booby traps all trails near or into his patches. Well, LEO must of found one of them with a copter and they set up a camera near his grow. He found that camera right off the bat.....and took a big shit on it.

 

[Verite]

And now they have his dna. Must not have been too paranoid.

 

[dmcheatw]

do like me and change your dna

seriously tho, can't this be avoided by growing in only patches of at most 6 plants? I'm assuming they only do the cameras if you have like a 100x100 area full of mj. The key is definately not to get the cameras on you, having no expertise on this subject, it seems to me that if LEO sets up a camera, your gonna go to jail.

 

[Guest]

Like they are going to do a very expensive DNA test for a 12 plant patch.

 

[Guest423]

Time2unite

These type of cameras have infrared and can not been seen by the human eye. If I remember right it shows up on film like a back lit black and white picture.
Going out a night during hunting seasons make so much sense. My optimal harvest is Oct 7-15th and that’s right during hunting season. I pay close attention to deer stands of any kind but no one hunts at night. I never looked at it that way. Do you use any flashlight or anything? Maybe a headlamp is cheap and easy way. Security is always a priority. What has been you experience?

i'm not every paranoid just safe, during the summer when everything is still green i only go to my spot 1 time a week if even, i take a different path each time so i don't leave trails, when fall comes around and the bow hunters are out i mainly only go at night, this is also the time when leaves fall off trees and the woods and openings really open up and you can easily see the mj plants turning yellow and any trails you've made coming in all summer, especially from the air...also anytime you see or hear a plane or copter make sure you hide and always wear camo, green or brown or whatever matches your surroundings and don't look up because your face sticks out. at night i just bring a little flashlight.

pipeline- around here the crack of dawn is the worst time to go, also the evening is terrible too, thats bowhunters prime times and fishermen if you grow by a stream or river. i'd rather go at noon then early morning or evening...but night is so much more safe and it's fun too...no one is in the woods at night except the wildlife.

 

[Vol Funk]

...no one is in the woods at night except the wildlife.

But it's scary....

 

[bongasaurus]

possibly a bit off topic but does anyone know where one could fine a motion/infrared beam that will connect to a digital camera?

 

[Verite]

Probably wont find many reinventing the wheel so to speak.

http://www.nextag.com/outdoor-wildlife-camera/search-html