LEO using cameras at outdoor grow

[hamstring]

Hello all
I was over at Dr Chronics sight when a very interesting subject came up. A very ingenious person said you could use an ordinary radar detector to identify if LEO had planted a camera at your outdoor grow sight.
This intrigued me because I knew that these trail/hunting cameras use infrared technology to initiate the camera. I thought I would ask here if some techno type knew for sure.

It is my understanding that infrared technology uses passive type detections. Simply put it listens or receives light or heat form some source to initiate. A radar detector needs something to be transmitted before it can detect it.

If this person were right this would be a great way to check for LEO’s cameras. Since most of them use infrared technology. Just come up with a twelve-volt power source and you can check for cameras on approach. I have long thought about a way to do this but it was my understanding that infrared motion detectors receive and do not transmit.

Just in case someone mistakes the door openers at your local grocery store as infrared they are not. The use a type of radar and do set off radar detectors.
I am by no means an expert and I hope I am incorrect because this would be a very good tool for us OG’s.

 

[Lootpimpin]

This could be done a couple of different ways. Do you mean a moving camera or a stable camera? Heat source can be tracked easily. Also if the cameras were wireless you can check for wireless transmission within a certain threshold from the grow. However, the cameras would probably be far from you and zoomed right now you from hundreds of yards away. They don't want to let you know that they are there either

Lp

 

[NiteTiger]

Most motion detecting equipment uses Passive Ifra Red (PIR) to detect motion, and that's not a wavelength that's detected by most radar detertors. Most radar detectors detect transmission of X, K, and Ka band radar frequencies, which are not IR. Even laser detectors would be unlikely to help in PIR equipment detection, as PIR is a PASSIVE system, that does not actively transmit anything.

 

[Guest]

i second that^

 

[Guest]

I have wireless " bullet " cameras and can use them from notebook for place i use, but its indoor. sad reality is this , if they want to se whatyou are doing they will and you will never know until its too latte. In one of my ventures I have a client who is a in very high position in government agency. we talk all the time about the equipment that they have. Needless to say, they can watch you bang your girl in your apt from 2 miles away through your builing and they buildin gthat hey are in . Well enough to tell you if she was wearing thongs and her favorite position. We can try but they have shit we can only dream of. If they want to see and you have a feeling you are being watched.....its already to late.








Nevermind

 

[HellaFella]

Y'all are some CRAZY ass PARANOID TWEEKERS!!

Whew!

 

[Guest]

Hella, this is actually happening these days on a frequent basis. This is actually why I'm not even going to bother with outdoor growing from now on - it's just not worth the risk. I don't blame the threadstarter at all for thinking about this

 

[Guest423]

or you could just go check your plants at night, then if they have a camera it needs to flash to take a pic...then you'll see it.

peace

 

[NiteTiger]

or you could just go check your plants at night, then if they have a camera it needs to flash to take a pic...then you'll see it.

peace

Nah, remote cameras with IR emitters are cheap, you'd never see 'em at night.

 

[hamstring]

Nite Tiger

Thanks for the input. You echoed my thoughts. So there is no way to defeat this type of security breech that I can think of.

You need to be very aware of your sourondings and wear sun glasses and hat at all times. It would be great if there was a device to detect these trail/hunting cameras that LEO uses. Lets build one and sell it. Ha Ha

They are of concern to me. I do not grow on public land but I am sure it would be very easy for LEO to get permission from private owner also.

 

[NiteTiger]

Well, the way to beat it just isn't with technology.

people have been setting 'tells' on trails they use since we first walked upright :wink:

 

[macster]

Time for my Tin foil Hat??

 

[Guest423]

where are these cheap remote cams with ir emmiters that u can't see at night? me and my friends are hunters and they are expensive and all of them need to flash to see the game.....ir would have to be way more spendy then them.

 

[supermanlives]

go at night with night vision goggles and full camo. works for me

 

[hamstring]

Timetunite
I do not know about the trails camera per say but the IR cameras are fairly inexpensive. The use an array of diodes on the front that produce this infrared light. If I am not mistaken you can buy one of these for security (Black and White) for around $150.00. You can always spot them because they have what looks like a large cluster of LED’s on the front of the camera.
I am not suggesting that the hunting cameras have this also I was speaking of security cameras and fairly inexpensive ones.
If any of you remember on OG they had someone caught on camera at the grow sight and I think the released the picture in the local press asking if anyone new this guy.

 

[Guest423]

i was referring to nite tigers statement saying they were cheap and how you would never see them at night....we had a local guy caught around here with pics from an outdoor trail cam too that the feds put out.....if they fly over and see a big plot why not quick set up a little cam to bust you in the act....better then just ripping it down and not getting a bust.....i go mainly at night anyways because of the hunters that time of year.....i know i'd see a flash or some sort of led light at night....or they could never recognize you very well at night even with ir.....but this only happens if your sloppy so i don't worry about it.

peace

 

[hamstring]

Time2unite

These type of cameras have infrared and can not been seen by the human eye. If I remember right it shows up on film like a back lit black and white picture.
Going out a night during hunting seasons make so much sense. My optimal harvest is Oct 7-15th and that’s right during hunting season. I pay close attention to deer stands of any kind but no one hunts at night. I never looked at it that way. Do you use any flashlight or anything? Maybe a headlamp is cheap and easy way. Security is always a priority. What has been you experience?

 

[Verite]

Heres a typical IR sensitive camera. The reason the IR leds are around the camera lense pointing out is because the CCD is sensitive in the IR wavelength. If you had one of these cameras scanning the grow area at night the hidden IR cameras would show up as glowing in one of these cameras. Same way a TV remote would light up on the end when you pressed a button on it.

 

[Verite]

After a search of hunting and trail cameras I have yet to find one that is IR sensitive and takes pictures.


Just found this ... fairly interesting on the quality issue which could be detrimental in identification in court.

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1094939#post1094939

 

[DirtDevil]

haha... i doubt it