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Jahaze

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Yes @VerdantGreen this is the spiced lemony smooth gal that leaves her incensey funk hanging in the air after a session. just lovely and perfect day smoke for me. She hits fast with euphoria/energy and the very good potency especially on subsequent runs...getting to know her better in veg. Been going through a lot of flower over the holiday break with friends and family enjoying her essence.
 
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Harvest time at 66 days. The lemon thai s1 plant #1. Her perfumed incense terps have developed a bit more this time around and are coming off as lemony sandalwood....really %#@*ing nice! I have been smoking her regularly because my last batch came out so good so I'm very familiar with her at this point. Just smelling her triggers the sensation of the high when I smoke her. That olfactory memory connection is very strong. This turned out to be a good plant considering I only grew out 4 s1's. Anyhow, she's up to dry and then cure.

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Piff_cat said:
sure you mostly notice it when seeing triploids with 3 nodes consistently , heart of cupped cotyledons, faciation, double flower, flat stem. many thai/vietnam strains(and other plants) can produce unreduced gametes resulting in triploids.(3 full sets of chromosomes) instead of 2 eggs with 1n you get a 2n egg and a 0n egg. this is due to environments have high dli extreme humidity/heat, little daylight length variation .

what starts as a triploid(2n gamete x sperm 1n) gets crazier once inbred/selfed. triploid meiosis is a shit show since theres only 2 poles but 3 sets to segregate. this leads to aneuploids(unequal amounts of chromosomes in progeny) with the most common being a trisomy(3 copies of one chromosome and 2 of all others) but it can also happen with a piece of a chromosome.
this extra genetic material throws off the dosage of whatever the extra part codes for. its usually complex but for example if your extra piece codes for a terpene synthase you will see increases. this can go a step further with additive quantity traits. each time the plant with that extra terpene synthase irregularity is put to a plant with the same extra(either selfed or sib mating) the progeny will produce the sum total of terpene between the 2 plants. a good example is uptown black by piffcoast. the cbh .3 guiaol the brown haze .3 guiaol there progeny .6 guiaol. easy example because guiaol is rare but lots of others out there if interested

these are both lemon thai one is a double flower the other is fasciated. the double flower goes along with a mutation(extra chromosome) called cupped cotyledon which gets progressivly more pronounced when both sides of pedigree carry it. heres amnesia haze x g13 haze(soma) with cupped cotyledon.. the last pic is dalat which has alot of mutated progeny as it resides in the hybrid zone
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Think I might have something similar here in this lemon thai some crazy terps on it myrcene aroma earthy musky with grape in the mix
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Jahaze

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Lemon Thai s1.
Another run of the clone I kept from the initial run. Already smells of lemony incense and menthol. Will be used to make seeds from a tangie kush/pine tar gush male I'm currently flowering. Original plan was to use a kona gold/haze male but I want more females to have variety. Plan still in the works but will wait till I flower more LT s1's. I decided to go wld pollen this round due to both lines being very resinous.
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Its a lovely plant @Jahaze -looks very similar to the seed mother of the S1s... even down to the big fans being a lighter shade of green to the smaller leaves around the buds. (the big fans always seem to fade early for me and it looks like you are doing a better job of it lol)

I'm just vegging up some clones to make more S1s and i'm about to dive into the vault for my last Bodhi LT seeds to see if they germ... also got a pack of LT regular seeds from a small European repro and will pop some of those too in the hope of a nice diverse gene pool.. but we will see what the plants look like first.

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Hey VG the s1's were really a joy to grow and smoke. I think your plan of expanding the gene pool is a great idea. I wanted to do something similar but with another hawaiian cultivar to see if the lemony menthol notes carried over. I hope you have success with the rest of the bohdi seeds as this line has very good potential especially mating to longer flowering cultivars with similar profiles. My plan is on hold till out grow out more s1's but it's at the top of my list. I'm sure once they get made you'll have no shortage of eager testers...myself included.
 
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Jahaze said:
Hey VG the s1's were really a joy to grow and smoke. I think your plan of expanding the gene pool is a great idea. I wanted to do something similar but with another hawaiian cultivar to see if the lemony menthol notes carried over. I hope you have success with the rest of the bohdi seeds as this line has very good potential especially mating to longer flowering cultivars with similar profiles. My plan is on hold till out grow out more s1's but it's at the top of my list. I'm sure once they get made you'll have no shortage of eager testers...myself included.
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Hey @Jahaze thats good to hear. Ive been chatting to a couple of people about the LT and i think that Bodhi's population, that he did the small seed run from, may have a few bottleneck issues. @soopy (he might like to chime in) was saying that he saw some plants descending from the Bodhi release that had a lot of fasciated individuals, so i'm pretty pleased that there has been only one reported so far coming from my LT mum (i'm a gardener and i see fasciation come and go quite a lot so i wasn't too worried about it.. but it looks in this case like its a genetic issue rather than environmental so it should be taken seriously.
Hopefully adding plants from a completely new population that will make a difference and we can stamp out that particular problem... the pack i got in Europe may have a more narrow leaf look though as i know that Bodhi used what he described as an 'indica pheno' to do his small seed run and i know he sourced his F2s from a guy in the states.
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OK a quick update, i'll probably start a new thread for the LT regular repro.
8 out of 9 germed so far from the European seeds with no obvious runts or mutants... and one of the 3 last Bodhi seeds has germed.. so i have at least 2 of his population and i might get one or two more. (of the last 2 , one of the seeds looked iffy, but germinated though i think it's a runt. the other i have just dug up and cracked the shell so there is hope.(iirc @Jahaze said he'd done this with one of the S1s)
the strong Bodhi seedling is in the foreground in the round pot.
You can see they are rather close to that led lamp, and they were even closer during germination. if you keep them really close they don't stretch after germination and the warmth from the light keeps them at ideal germination temp. i wouldn't keep regular plants that close as it would be too close.
My expectation is that the European repro will show a lot more wide leaf/narrow leaf variation than the Bhodi population - which i think was bred from a single 'indica' pheno and the only two decent males Bodhi had that didn't autoflower.
Not sure exactly what i'll do, play it by ear, but it seems sensible to try and 'cross' plants from the two populations to boost the diversity and reduce some of the deleterious traits emerging in bodhi's population, but, that said, i have a well tried and and tested bodhi plant that will definitely feature quite heavily. (the one i made the S1s with)
The other thing i'm interested in is the high of any narrow leaf phenos i get from the Euro population... because the plants from the wider leaf Bhodi offspring already have a very clear, energetic high and i would expect narrow leaf phenos to go even further in that direction !
VG :tiphat:
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I should soon be able l to harvest my cut.

in the seeds I grew to select..

one was a more wld in structure but still pretty thin leaf sativa..

it had more resin and the colas looked like hash..

somehow I chose the skinniest lol..

they came from a dutch flowers stock early repro..

and are now fem
 
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