LEGEND'S Of HASHISH

[Green Supreme]

No, my point was really that if you look where cannabis came from, all areas are quite high uv compared to Cali. Coincidence, hmmmm. Peace GS

 

[DrySiftWizard]

Cannabis only comes from those areas? And all these years I thought it grew wild all over the globe.

Huh.

 

[DrySiftWizard]

I tried to use UVB to improve plants but have never had any improvement I could see or measure via analysis with my GC. I used them both with Sodium and Halides indoors as well as in my greenhouse with sunlight thru glass. The test was a bust, the 5 foot plants in the closest rows to the UVB got burnt, the next row was a little yellow around the leafs, the next few rows not any real negative things to say except it did not increase the THC one bit. The two closer rows had less THC then controls without UVB, and less weight, specially the first row.
GS have you ever grow a crop with UVB as well as controls of the same clone without UVB and had it analyzed to see if the THC totals change? Or the Terpene totals? I have and I could not find any improvement.
If anyone knows of a post that shows analyzed improvement with UVB, I would love to see it, please give me the link.
-SamS

No, you're right on.

I've talked quite a bit with a few high end LED companies recently (CLW, Lumigrow, Apache) and they don't seem to think it's a big deal, either.

 

[Green Supreme]

Cannabis only comes from those areas? And all these years I thought it grew wild all over the globe.

Huh.

Not surprised it went over your head. If it shows you are wrong in some way, you always have something to say. Now, are you saying cannabis never had points of origin? Or do you believe cannabis has grown in Cali since it started. How's that for spelling it put in crayon, lol? Peace GS

 

[Elmer Bud]

I tried to use UVB to improve plants but have never had any improvement I could see or measure via analysis with my GC. I used them both with Sodium and Halides indoors as well as in my greenhouse with sunlight thru glass. The test was a bust, the 5 foot plants in the closest rows to the UVB got burnt, the next row was a little yellow around the leafs, the next few rows not any real negative things to say except it did not increase the THC one bit. The two closer rows had less THC then controls without UVB, and less weight, specially the first row.
GS have you ever grow a crop with UVB as well as controls of the same clone without UVB and had it analyzed to see if the THC totals change? Or the Terpene totals? I have and I could not find any improvement.
If anyone knows of a post that shows analyzed improvement with UVB, I would love to see it, please give me the link.
-SamS

G`day Sam

From what I understand UV lamps have a high freq wave .
Thus dissipates a short distance from the source . Would having the lights move to mimic the Sun`s arc make a difference . ie the whole plant gets bathed ?

Were you able to measure the energy from the UV lamps at different distances ?
Also did the plants spend their whole lives exposed to high UV ?

Your old buddy Rob talked about THC V in areas of high UV exposure around the globe .THC V has had my attention ever since . The best smokes from the tropics, have some thing special, herb grown outside the region rarely have . Can you comment about high altitude Indica plants having THC V ?

@ Green Supreme .

I noticed the difference in UV in Europe compared to Australia this past Summer .
In Oz 15 minutes in the Sun between 10 am and 3 pm will cause skin damage and make your skin turn pink if not acclimatised .
All day in the Sun on the hottest days of the year in Belgium and Sthn France and I hardly got a tan !


Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Put that in my pipe please

Peace

 

[DrySiftWizard]

lol @ GS.

Explain to us how/why UV is important.

Links. UV is damaging to plants.

 

[Mate Dave]

I know from just growing Cannabis that it likes intense light and that the source of light is what grows THC period, the further away the longer the inter-nodes and less the pronounced bud structure and less resin coverage.

But find a special plant, one that can handle light conditions in excess of 70wpsf, a plant that don't burn under the intense heat and lumens beating it. I often find these plants which when they are saturated with light, don't burn, but rather handle it and put out another coat of resin to protect themselves from any unnecessary light damage to their photosynsthate processors, it's a nice trait to have in cannabis. Intern it creates more attraction for pollinators, or indoors more of a chance it will be cloned or liked by the grower. Its genetics (plants seduce growers into keeping them going its magical)

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Hello,

G`day Sam

From what I understand UV lamps have a high freq wave .
Thus dissipates a short distance from the source . Would having the lights move to mimic the Sun`s arc make a difference . ie the whole plant gets bathed ?

NO IDEA.

Were you able to measure the energy from the UV lamps at different distances ?

NO.

Also did the plants spend their whole lives exposed to high UV ?

IT WAS A 12 INCH CLONE GROWN TO 5 FOOT AND FLOWERED UNDER UVB.

Your old buddy Rob talked about THC V in areas of high UV exposure around the globe .THC V has had my attention ever since . The best smokes from the tropics, have some thing special, herb grown outside the region rarely have . Can you comment about high altitude Indica plants having THC V ?

THCV IS NOT ACTIVE PSYCHOLOGICALY AND IS IN FACT AN ANTAGONIST OF THE THC AT THE CB1 RECEPTOR.
YES YOU CAN FIND SMALL AMOUNTS OF THCV IN ASIAN AND AFRICAN STRAINS.
-SamS

@ Green Supreme .

I noticed the difference in UV in Europe compared to Australia this past Summer .
In Oz 15 minutes in the Sun between 10 am and 3 pm will cause skin damage and make your skin turn pink if not acclimatised .
All day in the Sun on the hottest days of the year in Belgium and Sthn France and I hardly got a tan !


Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Sam , Mate Dave

But find a special plant, one that can handle light conditions in excess of 70wpsf, a plant that don't burn under the intense heat and lumens beating it. I often find these plants which when they are saturated with light, don't burn, but rather handle it and put out another coat of resin to protect themselves from any unnecessary light damage to their photosynsthate processors, it's a nice trait to have in cannabis. Intern it creates more attraction for pollinators, or indoors more of a chance it will be cloned or liked by the grower. Its genetics (plants seduce growers into keeping them going its magical)

It would seem to me those phenotypes would have a better chance of survival and reproduction in high UV .
There fore in a population in a region with high UV. Natural selection could / would favour individuals with higher resistance to UV ?

@ Sam several times I`ve read you saying you used UV lights in experiments . If you took no measurements it doesn`t seem like a repeatable scientific method .

Thanks for the info re THCV .
I understand it has no psychological effect . Though the way it interacts is the factor I`d like to understand better .
Do you think that the Asian and African varieties possibly have other cannabinoids that work towards creating the unique effect ? Cause something is ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Mate Dave]

It would seem that with adverse conditions to contend with plants adapted to local climates, where they grew hemp in some country's the thc content was low but there was resin growing more abundant in other country’s like Pakistan.

Resin being produced by the plant as a natural uv blocker for the leaf lamina to protect chloroplasts and maintain vigour in extreme bright conditions, seems plausible THC content it is genetic and can be manipulated by the hand of man as well as what I would assume the natural progression would be for say a low THC type variety moved to Aghanistan it would improve on the qualities we desire for smoking over decades or centuries.

I see Sam had no noticeable results from UV, my own experiences are on growing plants under HPS and how late in flower I can add a lamp to the grow and increase the resin coverage overnight noticeably so, whereas on other strains this practice just stresses them the fcuk out and they hate it and grow all airy and loose or throw stamens from calyx's and fuck up the grow instead of making the weed 10x better.

I had some posts I made a year ago about THC and the affect that high intense brightness has upon it's production I'll find it.


Sam, what is your opinion of the first cannabis plants taken from the wild into cultivation, do you have any opinion or scientific facts related to this, do you think that they would have come from rudaralis type and acclimatized to suit geographical locations where when they propagated in new sites? Do you think the plants complex genes were already present at this point and helped survival and progression. Would dioecy have evolved in equatorial or hash areas before in the wild in your opinion?

Types mixing from multiple migrating vectors being a cause or a natural mutant dioecious line/plant arising from one monoecious rudaralis?

 

[bigbag]

best Acapulco Gold came from Juan, who grew at the top of the mountain. took me two years 2 finally hook up the real "gold", through fisherman who told me of Juan. the fisherman took me up the mountain, to do the deal for a pound of Juan's gold. when we arrived, Juan was eager to offer me a "sample", and I said "fire it up!". well, he did just that, grabbing a 12'', cola of the real Acapulco Gold and lit the whole thing on fire ! he blew it out, and took a massive hual off the smoldering cola then handed it to me...by now it was flaring, and I took a hardy toke ! next thing I remember...i'm dick in the dirt, KO'd and the fisherman poured a glass of water on my face, while slapping me. when I come to, he goes " this is bad for biz when i'm trying to get you a deal, and called you a professional smoker...pull it together ! So, long story short, got a pound of AG tops for $200 US and it lasted me a year. put that up against most top sativas of today

 

[SoulSynergySoil]

If I am correct RiverRock said they use fresh plants flash frozen to make the water hash, then they used sublimation to remove all moisture from the frozen extracted resin, but anyone can do this I suggested it years ago. The real secret is real low heat to preserve the terpenes, sublimation as well as the fresh plant extracts.
-SamS

Flash frozen, freeze dried FMCD water sift? Word.

 

[Elmer Bud]

UVB VS NO UVB Side by Side

 

[mack 10]

Sublimation? which is what.

 

[jayjayfrank]

sublimate

see sublimator

also, i think maybe rotary vacuum evaporator might work, not sure