Lebanese
- Thread starter dubi
- Start date
I was looking more for "first hand experiences", because most seedbanks usually provide an inaccurate description. I was told by ace support that it was pretty tasty for vaping. But I take that if you copy pasted the description is accurate then.
I wonder if it is similar to Beldia because of the moroccan hash flavor. I want a strong, hash tasting plant. I have two questions, if you would be so kind to answer them:
1. Any phenotypes I should look for? I want to make sure I get one with cbd.
2. Do they stretch a lot in flowering since they are sativas? I have a 315W CMH
Thanks!
Lebanizer
Well-known member
I may have a go at your questions. Regarding the stretch, most leb plants oscillate between "barely any stretch" to "slight stretch". They have nothing to do with what you probably have in mind, ie tropical sativas.
Phenotypes (how the plants look) are unrelated to chemotypes (what the plant is made of), ie the only way to know if you have CBD is to try the plant (other than sending it to a lab that is) - you sshould look for a weak/no hit plant. Be warned that you can encounter super frosty plants (resin rich) that are CBD bombs (weak/no hit plants). Great plant anyway but I maybe biased
...
I may have a go at your questions. Regarding the stretch, most leb plants oscillate between "barely any stretch" to "slight stretch". They have nothing to do with what you probably have in mind, ie tropical sativas.
Phenotypes (how the plants look) are unrelated to chemotypes (what the plant is made of), ie the only way to know if you have CBD is to try the plant (other than sending it to a lab that is) - you sshould look for a weak/no hit plant. Be warned that you can encounter super frosty plants (resin rich) that are CBD bombs (weak/no hit plants). Great plant anyway but I maybe biased
thank you.
zaprjaques
da boveda kid
beauties! 
good luck!
good luck!
goingrey
Well-known member
Will be interesting to see. Do you have the cutting under 24 hour light or less?
zaprjaques thank you man
@goingrey
the cuttings are in the veg tent under 18/6. I will see if she revegs. If she do, I will cross her with a Nepalese sativa (Rasol from Khalifa genetics). If she autoflowers I won’t pollinate her, I don’t want this trait.
I don’t know if all the Lebanese have the autoflower trait. The male I had was already flowering nicely and quickly under 18/6, but this female took a lot more time to show sex and looks very sativa.
greetz
@goingrey
the cuttings are in the veg tent under 18/6. I will see if she revegs. If she do, I will cross her with a Nepalese sativa (Rasol from Khalifa genetics). If she autoflowers I won’t pollinate her, I don’t want this trait.
I don’t know if all the Lebanese have the autoflower trait. The male I had was already flowering nicely and quickly under 18/6, but this female took a lot more time to show sex and looks very sativa.
greetz
goingrey
Well-known member
You might have better success with 24 hours of light. Then again if you want to avoid not just auto but also semi-auto traits 18 hours could be a good "test". Hope it works out, that's a cool idea for a cross!
i have small space and already 20 other genetics in the veg tent. I can’t switch all the mothers to 24h of light.
What is exactly semi auto trait? The plant will flower with 14h or 15h instead of 12h, for example?
it leans she is periodic. A plant can be aperiodic (auto), or periodic. But she can’t be semi periodic.
Lebanizer
i have no doubt the Lebanese has gems in the line, and I will keep them has they are. But I would like to work a bit the Nepalese Rasol to lower its flowering time and reduce its huge stretch a bit and improve the vigour adding Lebanese genes in it.
I will pop my other Lebanese seeds to pheno hunt because I like what I already found. My only complain so far is the lack of vigour, but it is normal.
greetz
goingrey
Well-known member
Yeah the semi-auto is a kind of funny term. Not sure that there is an official description but it is basically used for varieties that are not strictly determinate/autoflowering but are just very eager to flower. Could be that they flower with a longer day trigger than the typical 12-13 hours, or maybe just a reduction daylight hours or change in light spectrum, or when stressors like being rootbound put them into full flowering mode. They are typically difficult to keep around as mothers, and to re-veg.
The first I remember hearing this term was some time after the first widely grown auto strain Lowryder came out. Back then it was retroactively applied to older non-auto varieties that were grown in challenging locations, like Sagarmatha's Stuporsonic that originates from Swedish outdoor growers, to differentiate them from the then-new autos. The term has since gained some acceptance, incidentally even being used in ACE Seeds' official description for the Lebanese.
Space is often at a premium but rooting a clone really doesn't need much (space or light) - very easy to provide some small fluorescent tube or E23 socket CFL/LED lamp. And while you say you can't switch all of your mothers to 24h, probably you actually could. But.. as mentioned, if you don't want to breed with genes that are difficult to keep as mother plants, the 18 hour light period might actually be a good thing.
Lebanizer
Well-known member
Rembetis
Active member
If you look at the area where a strain comes from you can get a pretty good idea of what its needs are. This strain begins flowering right after the longest day of the year at about 14 1/2 hours of daylight and finishes usually by the first week of Sept. It finished right on time in Michigan outdoors
