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I am by no means any kind of expert, but thought I'd post a few possibilities, so that others could quantify/dismiss them. The more possibilities ruled out, the better.
First off, its happening to all of your plants at once, at the same time, which means something has changed recently more than likely. So we just have to look at the variables that all of your plants share.
Have you been LST'ing the whole time? Or just started? Perhaps the sudden move away from the light source caused some shock. I know it's called LST, but if you suddenly had to divert energy to correct your growth, it could maybe cause stress in a not so hardy strain?
What kind of rope/string are you using, and was it used on all plants? Was it in contact with anything that could harm your plants?
Was there any sudden temperature fluctuations recently, or has the Humidity dropped significantly? Air flow stopped up?
Your soil PH being at 6.5 doesn't immediately mean its not a PH issue. If the water you are using ranges outside of that mark, it will change your PH. A lot of drooping plant issues I've had with other plants has been PH related.
Hopefully someone can chime in on these. I'd also like to point out, that even though the problem started 12 hours ago, and 2 days ago they were fine, does not mean the problem didn't start or was not caused then. Plants don't always immediately react to things, something you did a week ago could just be showing the effects now.
Think of it like a human. You might get the cold bug from someone, but symptoms don't start up for a week.
First off, its happening to all of your plants at once, at the same time, which means something has changed recently more than likely. So we just have to look at the variables that all of your plants share.
Have you been LST'ing the whole time? Or just started? Perhaps the sudden move away from the light source caused some shock. I know it's called LST, but if you suddenly had to divert energy to correct your growth, it could maybe cause stress in a not so hardy strain?
What kind of rope/string are you using, and was it used on all plants? Was it in contact with anything that could harm your plants?
Was there any sudden temperature fluctuations recently, or has the Humidity dropped significantly? Air flow stopped up?
Your soil PH being at 6.5 doesn't immediately mean its not a PH issue. If the water you are using ranges outside of that mark, it will change your PH. A lot of drooping plant issues I've had with other plants has been PH related.
Hopefully someone can chime in on these. I'd also like to point out, that even though the problem started 12 hours ago, and 2 days ago they were fine, does not mean the problem didn't start or was not caused then. Plants don't always immediately react to things, something you did a week ago could just be showing the effects now.
Think of it like a human. You might get the cold bug from someone, but symptoms don't start up for a week.
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Thank you for replying, very informative post.I started LST about a 3 weeks ago, but i did it only to main stem to get more buds and two days ago i did to many sidestems to save some space and to get some buds out of leaf shadows and i used the same rope that i used with main stem with main stem and i dont think i did any damage to them. I think temps and air flow has been normal all time but cant say anything about humidity or ph because i dont have a devices to measure them. I was thinking that is it possible that maybe the new plant food ruined my soil ph or something like that? It looks like the plant food is produced at year 2004( not sure if that means the produce year), is it possible that maybe it is expired? I give that fert to them 2 days ago first time and then 12 hours later i faced the problem.
That food seems strong. You may have over-ferted and they have lockout. Either that or your room is dipping to real low temps over lights out. I haven't seen your condition unless I forget to water or they get real cold. If you water and soil is always damp, what else could it be but nute lockout?
Best you can do is flush them with plain water until about 200% runoff and hope they rebound. Chances are you locked em up. Also, throw a small cup of water in the room for some more humidity. Either that or a wet towel. Works well for me in winter months when humidity is always around 30%. A wet towel brings it up to 40-50% until it dries out. Monitoring temp, RH, and pH is crucial. I check my min and max temps every day cycle for any variances. It helps identifying problems like these.
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yea looks like they froze to me, but if it's not getting that cold I'm not sure what else it could be.
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So 80*F? What about at night? Any chance it can dip to 10*C or lower?
If its not temps or under-watering, flush those babies good. Last chance is a lock up issue due to nutes. Is your soil already ferted from the bag?
If its not temps or under-watering, flush those babies good. Last chance is a lock up issue due to nutes. Is your soil already ferted from the bag?
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So the only variable that changed was the nutes it seems.
Is the soil real damp if you stick your finger in as far as you can? If you aren't draining well, they could have gotten waterlogged. Root rot can develop from constantly soggy soil.
Is the soil real damp if you stick your finger in as far as you can? If you aren't draining well, they could have gotten waterlogged. Root rot can develop from constantly soggy soil.
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Did you measure the runoff EC or pH? Let it dry out, it shouldn't take more than a day to perk up unless its too late or something else.
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lookin an better?
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prince kali
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in my opinion the root system must be severely damaged, maybe better to let them rest in peace and
reboot - just my opinion..
good luck.. pK
reboot - just my opinion..
good luck.. pK
I believe your problem to be overwatering. I believe you possibly made it even worse by trying to flush the soil. Overwatering does not necessarily mean "watering your plants too often." It can also mean using a soil mix that holds too much water. I see barely any perlite in that mix, so it's likely that this mix is holding too much water for that plant's liking.
Maybe that soil mix worked for you in the past, but chances are that it either changed, or your current genetics don't like it. I'll bet that if you were to dig up a plant and look at its rootball, you might see evidence of overwatering: brown roots, possibly a little slime, maybe even a little anaerobic odor. If it were me, I would dig them up and transplant to another soil mix. I would make sure it has high porosity/high drainage.
Best of luck to you. Overwatering is one of the most common mistakes that occur in the garden. I've been there before!
Maybe that soil mix worked for you in the past, but chances are that it either changed, or your current genetics don't like it. I'll bet that if you were to dig up a plant and look at its rootball, you might see evidence of overwatering: brown roots, possibly a little slime, maybe even a little anaerobic odor. If it were me, I would dig them up and transplant to another soil mix. I would make sure it has high porosity/high drainage.
Best of luck to you. Overwatering is one of the most common mistakes that occur in the garden. I've been there before!
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