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budfriend

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Right on mister d. Thank you. Have you used them?? Still using them??

What would be best 2 blumats or one maxi? Money is not the issue just quality.

Any tips for them, Keeping them unclocked??

Thanks and that pick in your avatar is amazing.
 

catman

half cat half man half baked
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I just started using blumats with 2 Maxis in 5 gallons, but I think I'd go with 2 regulars over a single Maxi. Don't pinch pennies when it might cost ya thousands, ya know? Ya might not need more than one assuming everything goes perfectly, but redundancy helps ensure things almost always go perfectly.
 

Mister_D

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Right on mister d. Thank you. Have you used them?? Still using them??

What would be best 2 blumats or one maxi? Money is not the issue just quality.

Any tips for them, Keeping them unclocked??

Thanks and that pick in your avatar is amazing.

Ya I have about 50 of them in use atm. I only have one plant in a 5 gal pot, the rest are in 3 gal. The one in the 5 gal pot is a mother plant about 5ft tall now. I'm only using one blumat and it's worked flawlessly so far. Two is probably better for redunency. As for keeping the lines clear, just keep your nutes simple. Maybe add drip clean or SM-90 to the regimen. I'm running the GH Flora series using h3ad's recipe in my own custom coco chow mix. Read through the redemption thread in my sig for more info. I think the blumats arrived around page 15. Thanks for the compliment on my avatar :dance013:
 

budfriend

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Thanks for the help guys. Your right two is the way to go. Better safe than sorry.

Catman do you like the 2 maxis more than two whatever there called knuphs ..the medium sized ones, assuming money wasn't an issue considering it will pay for itself if it is better.

What do you guys think is best for a 10-15 gallon vert tree. More medium or less maxis and what is the numbers people are using.

Thanks for the help. I love learning means less work..

So is that dog yours?? Mister d
 

Mister_D

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bud - You are stepping out of my realm of experience with 10-15 gal. pots. I would however think with a pot that big, two maxis would be the way to go. I have to ask why your think you need such big pots in the first place? I've seen two pound trees come out of a 5 gal. bucket. Anything over that seems like a waste of media to me. Unless of course you need all that extra media to hold your plant over in the event your blumat clogs and you won't be visiting the grow for a week or more. Or you are growing huge plants outdoors.

Dog belongs to my girlfriend. He's a bit bigger these days, though not much. That was just the first thought I had when she brought him home, so I took a picture :laughing:.
 

FlowerFarmer

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Same.. big pots are a waste of money and medium in my opinion indoors (if using coco or other soiless medium). I'm in 7 Gal Smart Pots now mainly for pot stability..or in case a blumat fails.

I've witnessed a large warehouse grow (where each plant is surround by 4 1k lamps)... tests were done comparing the results of a tree grown in a 5 gal bucket vs. a tree grown in a 30 gal tub (party kind with rope handles). The tub plant did not yield more.
 

budfriend

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thanks guys again for the info.

Interesting about the smaller being the same. Right now my trees in in krusty bucket style 6 gallon perilite with a dash of coco. 15on 15 off. Works fine and supper easy to build and get parts. I did a 2 run test myself years ago. Perilite beat DWC both times and that was before i started adding a dash of coco to get those small root hairs.

I guess i had always read bigger was better. Thanks for the info. I had that test planned oneday but now i don't need to do it.

that looks like a funny little dog. I just got a puppy lab. I had fogetten how much and funny dogs are.

Take it easy guys.

Oh Is there a easy sign to spot if your bluemat clogs besides the plant showing it. Or a quick easy way to check them every so often.

thanks
 

Mister_D

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Oh Is there a easy sign to spot if your bluemat clogs besides the plant showing it. Or a quick easy way to check them every so often.

thanks

Lift or tip your pot. If it's too light either the blumat needs adjusting or it's clogged. I also highly recommend inline filters sold in the sprinkler section at home de pot and similar stores. Keeps anything big enough to clog the 3mm line out of the res. I run a sealed elevated res and just filter everything coming out of the main res on the floor. Keeps the blumats clear and me :biggrin:. More details are in the redemption thread in my sig.
 

Arminius

"I'm not a pezzamist, I am an optometrist"
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thanks guys again for the info.

Interesting about the smaller being the same. Right now my trees in in krusty bucket style 6 gallon perilite with a dash of coco. 15on 15 off. Works fine and supper easy to build and get parts. I did a 2 run test myself years ago. Perilite beat DWC both times and that was before i started adding a dash of coco to get those small root hairs.

I guess i had always read bigger was better. Thanks for the info. I had that test planned oneday but now i don't need to do it.

that looks like a funny little dog. I just got a puppy lab. I had fogetten how much and funny dogs are.

Take it easy guys.

Oh Is there a easy sign to spot if your bluemat clogs besides the plant showing it. Or a quick easy way to check them every so often.

thanks
No need to go any more than 2g with coco. HGO uses 7 liter pots with timed feeds...
 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
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Hey gang, how is everyone? I'm doin good, busy as hell, running 2 sites and a third starting next month.

The basement got a couple updates over the last year, we went to 24 lights, pulling one 8 light every 3 weeks. We switched to Radiant hoods, non ac, no more bare bulbs. The crops were too inconsistent, what worked well on some strains didn't work at all with others.

Still using blumats, 1 g plastic pots of ocean forest, h&g nutes, topping with Jamaican bat guano in flower too. We recently moved veg to another building (and made it 7kw instead of 4) and took the old veg space for flower, so its now 3x10kw gardens. Had to get a new transformer for that one!
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Not much else to report really, just been takin care of pots of clones, its never ending! I finally got good at it though, good stick rates and good strains of medicine. Our collective has lots of members now, and several members help with the work.

Getting stressful though, I'm looking forward to getting out of this biz. Anyone need a garden consultant in Normal? :)
 

Mister_D

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Hey gang, how is everyone? I'm doin good, busy as hell, running 2 sites and a third starting next month.

The basement got a couple updates over the last year, we went to 24 lights, pulling one 8 light every 3 weeks. We switched to Radiant hoods, non ac, no more bare bulbs. The crops were too inconsistent, what worked well on some strains didn't work at all with others.

Still using blumats, 1 g plastic pots of ocean forest, h&g nutes, topping with Jamaican bat guano in flower too. We recently moved veg to another building (and made it 7kw instead of 4) and took the old veg space for flower, so its now 3x10kw gardens. Had to get a new transformer for that one!
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Not much else to report really, just been takin care of pots of clones, its never ending! I finally got good at it though, good stick rates and good strains of medicine. Our collective has lots of members now, and several members help with the work.

Getting stressful though, I'm looking forward to getting out of this biz. Anyone need a garden consultant in Normal? :)

Good to hear from ya lazy. Lil surprised you went back to horizontal though? Gotta do whatcha gotta do for consistent returns though. Every strain definitely isn't suited to vert, though the same could be said about horizontal hmmmmmmm....... Anyway glad things are flowing well for you :biggrin:

How about a pic update for shits and giggles?
 

Yes4Prop215

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Hey gang, how is everyone? I'm doin good, busy as hell, running 2 sites and a third starting next month.

The basement got a couple updates over the last year, we went to 24 lights, pulling one 8 light every 3 weeks. We switched to Radiant hoods, non ac, no more bare bulbs. The crops were too inconsistent, what worked well on some strains didn't work at all with others.

Still using blumats, 1 g plastic pots of ocean forest, h&g nutes, topping with Jamaican bat guano in flower too. We recently moved veg to another building (and made it 7kw instead of 4) and took the old veg space for flower, so its now 3x10kw gardens. Had to get a new transformer for that one!
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Not much else to report really, just been takin care of pots of clones, its never ending! I finally got good at it though, good stick rates and good strains of medicine. Our collective has lots of members now, and several members help with the work.

Getting stressful though, I'm looking forward to getting out of this biz. Anyone need a garden consultant in Normal? :)

good to hear youre still around man....it sure is a workload! im gonna be shutting down my indoors ops this summer to focus only on the OD gardens. definately echo the stress part of running multiple sites, makes me want to focus all my eggs into one large show but than that carries risks too. looking forward myself to stepping back for a year or two and just consulting and taking a percentage on grows ive already setup. i really want to be part of a massive collective so that i can grow for 100s-1000s of patients at a time even if it means working in someone elses garden, want that extra legal protection. and would LOVE to have some damn helpers!

peace.
 

grow nerd

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Been a while! Staying busy is a good thing.

Keep up the strong work and good luck on getting out of this biz.

Peace
 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
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Good evening folks!

Time for my once a year update on this thread, haha

Had a rough year for some personal reasons, new people and some mistakes were made. Live and learn. Best lesson is, don't fuck with what works.

We had been hand-watering flower and veg for a few years, and it was a pain. Starting with veg, we built a new 10x10 tent (9 feet tall) and put 2 4x8 flood trays and 2 x 100g tanks in it. Air cooled, with 4 x 100 gavita de's, water heaters, bluelab monitors and aerated, all automated.

Next we converted the flowering room to Greentrees Ebb and Flow 2 gallon flood and drain buckets, one 10 light garden at a time. We split each garden in two (5 lights, 80 buckets) per controller, and staggered the timers. Turns out 100 gallons wasn't enough reservoir for a week, so I added a second 100g tank and sistered them together at the bottom. More reservoir heaters and doubled the nutrient usage, but so far so good. Just finished the last garden a couple months ago and they work great. Cost about 10 grand total, but should pay itself off in 4 to 6 months of labor savings. So it took 480 inner and outer buckets, 600 feet of 3/4 inch tubing, 6 x controllers, 12 water pumps, and 6 x 100g reservoirs with heaters. Whew.

Next we updated the ventilation. Pulled out 4 x 12" Vortex exhaust fans, filters and ducting, and replaced them with 2 x Vortex 14xls and Can lite 14x50xl filters. More airflow, way less noise, way less equipment in the way. Only cost about 3 grand. Ouch.

But the beauty is, if nobody shows up for work, nothing dies. Gotta love automation.

We are lightening up our coco mix too, so we can get veg to dry out faster and root faster. We were doing 50/50 coco/perlite, but I'm ordering a pallet of Vermilite 80/20 Pro garden mix. It's 80% clay pebbles and 20 % coco. We can water veg and flower as often as needed, I just wanted a little buffer in case of a power failure.

Been doing 17 to 18 pounds a run of SD or OG, not fantastic but it's enough to pay the bills and eat some steaks here and there.

I hope you're all well, and safe, and that next year is your best year ever. Merry Christmas folks!
 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
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Shit i was just there, my old phone was locking up when i took pics(battery pull, argh!) but I got a new one. I'll take pics soon. Just replaced all 36 bulbs and reflectors tonight, tons brighter in there!
 

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