Landrace sativas that are still around in pure form?

[Gert Lush]

But I was looking for landrace sativas and not hybrids because I am planing my next seed project and I am only going to use land races if possible.

Lots of landraces are "hybrids". You have to remember that the terms "sativa" and "indica" are only the broadest of guidelines and in no way scientific at all.
If a landrace establishes between two different existing strains it will carry elements of both. I.e. hybrid.
You should also remember that the variety in a landrace can be quite marked. Don't expect supermarket standardization here

Some people would argue that the terms "sativa" and "indica" are actually misleading. I find them useful, provided you don't get too religious about it.

For instance you can get very short flowering sativas (eg. Mediterranean) or ridiculously long flowering ones. You can get intellectual creative weed, or stuff that will mess you up and S-C-A-R-E you (not necessarily a bad thing!) Witness some of the more electric Mexicans (I've seen them bring seasoned hardcore tokers to their knees, praying to Jesus for it to wear off ) or some Thais. Or you can have joyful blissful stuff that will make you feel like you're in a Bob Marley Reggae video.

Probably best to describe what effects you are after, rather than just say "sativa".

 

[guest59452]

dr. grinspoon caterpillar pheno, supposedly pure hawaiian, or ecuadorian. still good unaldulterated sativa

 

[TanzanianMagic]

I've been looking at Ace too and stopped looking at the Real Seed company when I realized I'd have to take a trip to the UK to pick up some of their great offerings. sigh

Maybe you should check into a remailer - Canada, Mexico, EU, etc.

 

[Iraganji]

I love sativa's! I don't have the experience of running pure landrace sativa's, but I'll tell you what I did when I purchasing for future chucking projects.
I just bought several packs of different landraces. Amongst other packs of assortments, I have......Swazi Red Beard, Malawi Gold, and Nigerian. I just bought
what I could afford at the time. I feel it's worth mentioning, that one other prized pack is Sam's Original Haze.

Peace

 

[Green Supreme]

Boi Verde. Peace GS

 

[Scottish Research]

Boi Verde. Peace GS

This one comes from La Mano Negra, but I think C-Ray is the current guardian of the seed stock?

R.Fortune

 

[Scottish Research]

Actually there is some pretty neat landrace stuff right here at the 'bay and the 'boutique.

R.Fortune

 

[The Hatter]

I don't think I have ever heard of cuts of pure land race going around. Land race sativa growers are so rare that cuts just don't make the rounds, at least not in these parts. Seeds on the other hand travel better so there are ways to get pure strains via seed. Most people where I live have never even tried a pure sativa let alone heard of somebody who grows them. You ask them if they've ever tried one and they list of strains like Blue Dream, Trainwreck, Super Lemon Haze etc.

Your best bet is seed. Ace and Cannabiogen are good places to start looking. Although much of what they offer is hybrid pure sativas they often offer at least for a limited time, original land race releases in addition to their excellent crosses.

 

[TanzanianMagic]

Your best bet is seed. Ace and Cannabiogen are good places to start looking. Although much of what they offer is hybrid pure sativas they often offer at least for a limited time, original land race releases in addition to their excellent crosses.

You should also check out World Of Seeds. I've grown their Ketama, and it is very nice indeed, psychedelic, which I didn't expect in in indica, and physically comforting rather than numbing. They also have Pakistan Valley, Wild Thai, Kilimanjaro, South African Kwazulu, and Afghan Kush. I've grown Kilimanjaro, very nice plant, uplifting, very fruity smell (citrus - lemon to orange). Their Colombian Gold and Brazil Amazonia are not pure lines, as listed on their site.

The Real Seed Company has landrace sativas and indicas exclusively. More for the experienced grower, especially germination wise. They have Himalayan lines (cold resistant): Malana Cream, Kumaoni and Garhwali Shiva. Tropical India: Kerala. They also give Nanda Devi as extra seeds. However, it is their Middle East line that is interesting: Lebanese and Sinai.

 

[Thule]

I just realized a few days ago that there are probably more landraces available commercially than EVER before. The situation is absolutely mind blowing when you compare it to times only 5 years ago.

I'm pretty sure I could list some 40 or more available strains if I tried. No time to try 'em all!!!

 

[sprinkl]

I just realized a few days ago that there are probably more landraces available commercially than EVER before. The situation is absolutely mind blowing when you compare it to times only 5 years ago.

I'm pretty sure I could list some 40 or more available strains if I tried. No time to try 'em all!!!

I dunno you just need to look for them. If you don't look for them you won't find them. If you do happen to run into them unknowingly they won't sound half as nice as all the hyped up crap they sell next to it so you won't remember it. 5 years ago a seedbank I knew already had 40+ pure landrace sativa strains, they still have the same ones in stock. I dunno about germination rates as they don't even put them in a fridge or in the dark lol...
I've been tempted to stock up on all of them with the hopes of growing them out in the near future... But 10 seeds of each wouldn't be ideal to make F2's... And I just don't have the money right now either.
So I guess I'll just wait till I have the time and place and hope there are people out there that try to preserve these lines as good as they can in the meanwhile...

 

[TanzanianMagic]

There have been a number of important landrace seeds companies that folded of course - African Seeds Company, Afropips, and the Spice Brothers.

However, Cannabiogen and ACE Seeds also have some very rare genetics.

COLOMBIA PUNTO ROJO (Just in)

COLOMBIA MANGOBICHE Highly reputed colombian line due its tasty aromas and its long lasting and strong effect, Mangobiche, line of uncertain origins, is one of the few old lines which still survive in the country. Highly branched plants with large colas full of flowers. Mango fruit and spicy aromas. It has a potent effect, cerebral and trippy and bit mellow at the same time, confortable and exciting, which last few hours. A classic among the best colombians classics

Type: sativa
Flowering: 16-24 weeks
Yield: medium/high

Mexico - JARILLA Sinaloa Local Mexican Sinaloan line of citric aroma and taste, clear high and quick flowering

Bank: CannaBioGen
Type sativa: Jarilla de Sinaloa
Yield: average
Flowering 12-14 weeks

PANAMA PELO ROSA S1 Fem

Bank: CannaBioGen
Type: Sativa Panama
Flowering: 12 weeks
Yield: medium-high


X18 (from Thom Hill)

Bank: Tom Hill
Type: Pure Indica
Flowering Ind: 8-10 weeks - Od: Mid October
Yield: Medio/Average

X18 like PTK is an old indica line derived from Pakistan import that was introduced to Northern California in the early 1980's. Bred for many years by my very able friend "the chemist". X18 is pure, never outcrossed, and breeds true for many traits. The unique sour apple/pear/citrus smell/flavor is very strong (far from subtle) and nearly fixed in the line. 70-80% of the line is characterized by this flavor, with the occasional extreme skunky phenotype as well.

ACE SEEDS

China Yunnan
Malawi
Panama

I wish they re-issued Vietnam Black, so there would at least be somewhere where we could buy a Vietnamese landrace sativa. They also used to have Jamaica Blue Mountain (which I ordered on time).

 

[PeopleWish]

Heres some of my durban (not dutch passion) finishes in 55-60 days. the earlier you chop it the more insanely raging up high you'll experience. Super dense long buds that smell of lemon anise candy yuzu citrus yummyness. This cut in particular is a very rare clone only.

 

[OLDproLg]

SOunds lip smackin good!!!

Good job..love sativas always..

 

[scai]

There have been a number of important landrace seeds companies that folded of course - African Seeds Company, Afropips, and the Spice Brothers.

However, Cannabiogen and ACE Seeds also have some very rare genetics.

COLOMBIA PUNTO ROJO (Just in)

COLOMBIA MANGOBICHE Highly reputed colombian line due its tasty aromas and its long lasting and strong effect, Mangobiche, line of uncertain origins, is one of the few old lines which still survive in the country. Highly branched plants with large colas full of flowers. Mango fruit and spicy aromas. It has a potent effect, cerebral and trippy and bit mellow at the same time, confortable and exciting, which last few hours. A classic among the best colombians classics

Type: sativa
Flowering: 16-24 weeks
Yield: medium/high

Mexico - JARILLA Sinaloa Local Mexican Sinaloan line of citric aroma and taste, clear high and quick flowering

Bank: CannaBioGen
Type sativa: Jarilla de Sinaloa
Yield: average
Flowering 12-14 weeks

PANAMA PELO ROSA S1 Fem

Bank: CannaBioGen
Type: Sativa Panama
Flowering: 12 weeks
Yield: medium-high


X18 (from Thom Hill)

Bank: Tom Hill
Type: Pure Indica
Flowering Ind: 8-10 weeks - Od: Mid October
Yield: Medio/Average

X18 like PTK is an old indica line derived from Pakistan import that was introduced to Northern California in the early 1980's. Bred for many years by my very able friend "the chemist". X18 is pure, never outcrossed, and breeds true for many traits. The unique sour apple/pear/citrus smell/flavor is very strong (far from subtle) and nearly fixed in the line. 70-80% of the line is characterized by this flavor, with the occasional extreme skunky phenotype as well.

ACE SEEDS

China Yunnan
Malawi
Panama

I wish they re-issued Vietnam Black, so there would at least be somewhere where we could buy a Vietnamese landrace sativa. They also used to have Jamaica Blue Mountain (which I ordered on time).

Ahahaaa....there is someone who likes Vietnam Black Thai too...to me it's a great los if ACE is not going to support VBT anymore.
For me, it was a most wanted species...but guess I have t buy it from someone who still has it.
Thai stick is gone too...

 

[Mustafunk]

That's very true indeed... nowadays there are lots of sources for pure lines in many seedbanks or breeders. I won't consider Pelo Rosa a pure line as it's a hybrid between Panama (hybrid from different lines too) and Colombian Punto Rojo.

Vientnam black isn't pure either, it's a hybrid between a tropical vietnamese plant (Da Lat it's been said) and chinese indica or maybe north vietnamese. But anyway, the plants from Yunnan region in China are similar to northern vietnamese plants, very different to other tropical lines as the Da Lat, Ho Chi Minh or even Cambodia plants. I'm looking forward to sprout some VB x Thai seeds after so many people's comments on this hybrid!

You can get also:

-Pakistan Chitral Kush and Jamaica Blue Mountain from Cannabiogen.
-Colombian Gold 1972 from Underground Seed Collective
-Lao Luang Prabang and Thai Stick from ACE/GN Collection
-Zambia and Ciskei Bushmen from Tropical Seeds (source Herbaria and African Seeds).
-Lots of asian lines from Angus from Real S.
-Maybe still some others from Brazilian Seeds?

 

[TanzanianMagic]

But anyway, the plants from Yunnan region in China are similar to northern vietnamese plants, very different to other tropical lines as the Da Lat, Ho Chi Minh or even Cambodia plants.

Thanks for that information, I didn't know that. I have grown China Yunnan, and it is a great plant. The high is both psychedelic and uplifting, and the smell and taste are very fruity. And an indica growth pattern.

 

[Thule]

Yeah, let's compile a list!

Any experience with mandalas Orisha? 70 days flo is pretty good for a clear headed sativa. Pure or hybrid?

Type:
100% sativa

Contains landrace genetics from:
Nigeria

Cultivation:
greenhouse/outdoor; indoor only vegetative phase recommended.

THC:
moderate

High:
Cerebral, energizing, motivational, social; no nervous side-effects (racy heart, etc.). Recommended for persons seeking a milder buzz that does not trigger anxiety or paranoia and which leaves you functional and active. Not suitable for tokers with a high THC tolerance!

Happy to see Ciskei available, there's no other! 60 days flo and no stretch. I don't think Zambian is out there right now though.

 

[inquest]

Aces VietBlackThai is no landrace, but a great sativa never the less!
They can yield like crazy!

Chaco had one in a couple gallons of coco and it just exploded!!! Unfortunately it seems his account has been deleted so there were no more pics in the thread.

Oldhaole has some outdoor pics of his Hawaiian grown 10+ footer.

I grew mine micro-style and as my first tropical sativa indoors they didn't yield so much for me. The effect was great. most friends commented on being "stupid high". lol
I had two colors, green and black (temperature and nute related) . There's variety in the potency, too.

happy growing!

 

[GP73LPC]

I have some Iranain ones Hyge Yielder.....wayyy tooo long to flower ...Herb is Mind Numbing

will you make seeds and put them on seedbay?