Lakhovsky Coil for enhanced plant growth?

[banicans]

Supposedly a 30cm one loop open-ended copper coil strategically placed around a plant will heal sick plants and possibly help healthy ones grow faster and stronger.

I know that we use copper for water(plumbing) all the time, so other than the hocus pocus factor involved, what could possibly be providing the results? Does copper 'attract' moisture? Are radio frequencies involved(or something like it?)? I have not tested myself, but do have some thick copper single strand in the garage and may, as it can't hurt right? hahaha

http://www.electrocultureandmagnetoculture.com/science-of-magnetoculture.html

The "living water", "bio-oscillated water", "magnetic water" and others also sounds interesting.

Sounds like a lot of pseudo-science. But then again, microbiology/virology/etc. were pseudo-science heresy and punishable by death for just discussing it not THAT long ago. And they are not saying 'buy this pricey device' just 'twist some copper in a spiral'. lol

Interesting if not entertaining at least. hahaha If a simple copper coil can bring us bigger fatter tastier healthier buds then

see also, Nikola Tesla, Wilhelm Reich, Carl Reichenbach, etc.

Thoughts?

 

[Haps]

Tell ya what, I'll test it on my weiner, see if it gets any bigger, and I'll let ya know if it does work.

 

[supermanlives]

maybe a copper cock ring

 

[Mountain]

Tell ya what, I'll test it on my weiner, see if it gets any bigger, and I'll let ya know if it does work.

Nice waste of bandwidth.

First off the Toker's Den is not the best place for something like this and guessing you'll get more responses like that.

Yes there's another...lol...

maybe a copper cock ring

Well if that's their study and they had 6 plants and 1 'treated' highly flawed to say the least. Considering 1924 society was into some pretty esoteric stuff at that time and science not so developed yet. Something you can look into is paramagnetism and peeps like Phil Callahan have covered that.

Honestly with how dialed in things are these days with canna growing doubt you'd see much, if anything at all, with something like you showed but pretty easy and inexpensive to experiment with so just do it. Infect your room with powdery mildew or something and see what happens.

The "living water", "bio-oscillated water", "magnetic water" and others also sounds interesting.

There was a company I ran across that was offering magnetic devices for inline treatment of water and they had some research they posted that was interesting. You can also look into the research done by Masaru Emoto. I mean physics has proven everything is really just energy anyway.

 

[zenoonez]

There was a company I ran across that was offering magnetic devices for inline treatment of water and they had some research they posted that was interesting. You can also look into the research done by Masaru Emoto. I mean physics has proven everything is really just energy anyway.

I have looked into the topic of magnetized water before though I didn't find anything in the scientific journals that was nearly as sensational as the claims made by some of those snake oil sellers out there. You have any luck finding any good scientific material on the subject?

 

[Mountain]

I have looked into the topic of magnetized water before though I didn't find anything in the scientific journals that was nearly as sensational as the claims made by some of those snake oil sellers out there. You have any luck finding any good scientific material on the subject?

Nope no scientific journal info I ran across, never really looked and doubt it's out there otherwise we would have heard about it. I find stuff like this to be interesting more than anything else. I mean at one time peeps thought the world was flat and the earth was the center of the universe...lol. We're way beyond that but always leave my mind open to the possibility of something.

If you take the mystery out of life it becomes boring. We're always discovering things and always will.

 

[banicans]

Wonderful outlook Mountain. Thank You.

This(not the full article, locked but still interesting) is worth a quick look:

This research is focused on understanding the behaviour of calcium carbonate agglomeration and scaling in the presence and absence of electronic antifouling (EAF).

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...38c6f23b86c0a380825186077dc22f1a&searchtype=a

I used to have a 'how to' on how to make (whats it called again! argh!) an inline 'living water' type device. It connected to a garden hose, was made with pvc and magnets and it acted almost like a DIY R/O system. It was very interesting to watch the videos on it and now I cannot find it(different HD sadly). First thing I thought of when I saw that pvc device was GROW GROW GROW! haha

 

[banicans]

Found a couple how to's for magnetic water traps:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/research/Vortrap.htm

 

[Mountain]

Yeah Ormus trap. Ormus is interesting stuff. Had a friend build an Ormus trap with rare earth magnets but did not get to test it on a friends med farm. He lived in gold country in the Sierra's and supposedly gold bearing areas are high in Ormus. His medical garden got raided and they confiscated the trap and the local newspaper published they found a 3 gallon bong...LMAO! They couldn't even determine it was 5 gallons and not 3 gallons to start...jeez. We were going to play with the Ormus just for shits and giggles.

Seawater is also supposedly very high in Ormic gold. Know someone that did an interesting experiment. He had worked in the mining/ore industry for awhile and played with seawater to pull the gold out and wild results. There's a few good seawater extracts/concentrates on the market and great for agriculture...proven results.

Like I said...this stuff is just for fun.

 

[cocktail frank]

i know that the "flux" or magnetism emitted by "live" electrical wires do positive things for plant growth.
the EMF's from live wires lead to explosive growth by plants living under HV transmission lines throughout the country.
i see this every spring/ summer while ATV riding thru the mountains.
you can really feel the hairs standing up on your neck and hear the wires buzzing when those 100K+ volt transmission lines sit about 50-100' over your head depending on where your standing in between the towers.

and the grass/ weeds/ different flora growing right under or just off to the side of the wires are notcibly lusher and taller.

as far as unenergized Cu, haven't the slightest idea why that would work.
maybe it has to do with those same magnetic properties.

 

[Haps]

Perhaps, kaptain of sour, reckon I will be a good chap and buy some more seeds to make sure I cover the bandwith. But if my wee willie winky grows into a wonder, I will be a hero for all mankind.

 

[Emil Muzz]

The reason for grass and other plants growing better under pylons is that the farmer can't get the mower under or too near to the pylon for safety reasons.
It just looks like the plants under pylons are growing better when in fact they haven't been cut back like the rest of the field.

It has nothing to do with electrical emissions.

 

[genkisan]

For all you magnetized water folks.....


http://www.chem1.com/CQ/clusqk.html

 

[PistilPete]

If you take the mystery out of life it becomes boring. We're always discovering things and always will.

Man, that made me smile.
I like your attitude, sir.

 

[cocktail frank]

sorry dude, these towers are on state land, nobody tends to the vegetation.
only short grass anywhere is from the atv's beating in a trail.

i'm sure you could find the scientific proof you need if you use a lil google.
it's all there in B&W

 

[Emil Muzz]

I couldn't find any peer reviewed papers on Electro-culture using google. Maybe you can Frank?

But i did find this

Date: Thu May 20 17:46:34 1999
Posted By: Evelyn Tsang, Staff, Plant Science, McGill University (Mac Campus)
Area of science: Botany
ID: 925665364.Bt
Message:

Hello Karri!

Your question describes 'electroculture', the study of the effects of electric fields on plants. There have been a great many experiments performed in this area of science.

Way back in 1783, Dr M. Bertholon created a machine that collected atmospheric electricity and transferred it to plants growing in the field. He called this machine the 'electrovegetoma' and claimed it radically increased the growth of the plants in the affected area.

At the beginning of this century a well-respected scientist, Dr. K. Selim Lewström, created an artificial electric field by suspending a net (on insulated supports) over a field. The wire net was connected to an electric source at one end and grounded at the other. Again, this scientist found a positive impact on the growth of plants inside the electric field.

Other experiments that have been set up include growing plants in water with an electric current running at right angles to the direction of the growing root (the roots started growing in the direction of the electric current), and exposing seeds to an electric field (the seeds germinated more quickly). Observations have been made about how grass growing under power lines are greener than in other areas, and that plants look healthier right after thunderstorms.

There are sceptics who say that grass after thunderstorms are healthier because the rain washed away the dust, and that grass under power lines are greener because of the fertilizer-droppings made by birds sitting of the lines. As well, sometimes the experiments on plants and electricity showed accelerated growth, and sometimes the plants grew just as well as the control plants (those not being affected by electricity).

What do you believe? A modern-day scientist, Dr. A. Goldsworthy, suggests that plants react best to electricity when all other growing conditions (food, water, space) are available. The presence of electricity simply improves the conditions even more, so if the conditions aren`t there, then the presence of an electric field won`t improve the growth of the plants.

If you want to perform an experiment on the effects of electricity on plant growth, you may want to think about the materials you have in order to determine the type of project to do. For instance, in order to produce electricity, you will need a generator.

> PLEASE GET HELP FROM AN ADULT WHO KNOWS HOW TO USE THE MACHINE SAFELY! <

In order to determine the effect on plants, you would have to measure plant growth on the test plants and control plants. This can be done by measuring the amount of growth after every burst of electricity, or by harvesting the plants, drying them down and measuring the weight (biomass) on a very sensitive scale - you would be measuring milligrams! Think about the time that you would have to perform the experiment, and where you would be able to run it in (inside, outside, etc). Your safest experiment may be measuring a section of plants for its growth, or taking pictures before and after both thunderstorms and normal (no electricity in the form of lightning) rainstorms, to see if there is a difference between the resulting growth of the plants.

I would also suggest that you go to the library and look for books under the keyword 'electroculture', and if there is a university nearby, go to the library there and ask at the reference desk for help to find any books on the subject.

Best of luck and keep asking questions!

Evelyn Tsang

Tying in with the quote in red I think that there is a possibility that HV lines will have enough power to create ammonium, nitrate and nitrite in the manner that lightning does. The HV line will be permanently producing these gasses but they would only be delivered to the ground when it rains.
A permanent thunderstorm in effect fertilizing every time it rains.
Totally hypothetical but in my mind it would explain the crackling around HV lines on high humidity days and your visual account of plants flourishing around power lines.

 

[Stoner4Life]

a nice easy way to test this on weed would to be take flowering clones from a single plant with all the clones being the same size & vigor to start with.

I imagine that if the Lakhovsky Coil would be working that it will show immediately during the re-vegging stage.